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kavanagh
Dear Colleagues,

In response to some of the criticism's of fellow FPN colleagues (Link).....I have modified the sketch of my concept pen and called it the 'Mont Blanc' Christopher Columbus Fountain Pen ( hence the ship of columbus at the bottom rather than 'Las Vegas').....I wish had the money to get this pen commissioned ( as some have with Bexley).....I hope you like it...



Philip1209
That would be a nice pen, but, no criticism intended, it does not seem to fit along the lines of Mont Blanc. I think that it is something a more modern pen maker would consider. If you look at the Mont Blanc writers' editions, they are very subtle in how they depict the writer. There is no large graphic; the connections are more abstract and subliminal.
Also, it is important to point out that Christopher Colombus shouldn't be solely associated with the United States. In fact, the first place he landed was the Caribbean. An American Flag on the nib doesn't really associate well with him- His goal was trading, not establishing a government. I guess a better name for the pen would be the Cristopher Columbus Legacy pen.
If you want to pursue the Mont Blanc theme, I'd suggest simplifying the design. Putting a graphic on the nib would be very Mont Blanc-esque, but make it something less pertinent to the US government, like a sketch of North and South America, or the Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria.
penpimperLV
It looks like it could be a Krone pen instead. thumbup.gif
Chemyst
This would certainly fit with many in the Omas line
burmeseboyz
QUOTE (Philip1209 @ Aug 19 2008, 11:33 PM) *
Also, it is important to point out that Christopher Colombus shouldn't be solely associated with the United States. In fact, the first place he landed was the Caribbean. An American Flag on the nib doesn't really associate well with him- His goal was trading, not establishing a government. I guess a better name for the pen would be the Cristopher Columbus Legacy pen.



Wait, so Christopher Columbus and George Washington didn't establish the United States after winning a tag team match against King George and Saddam Hussein? hmm1.gif
Chemyst
QUOTE (burmeseboyz @ Sep 16 2008, 02:52 PM) *
QUOTE (Philip1209 @ Aug 19 2008, 11:33 PM) *
Also, it is important to point out that Christopher Colombus shouldn't be solely associated with the United States. In fact, the first place he landed was the Caribbean. An American Flag on the nib doesn't really associate well with him- His goal was trading, not establishing a government. I guess a better name for the pen would be the Cristopher Columbus Legacy pen.



Wait, so Christopher Columbus and George Washington didn't establish the United States after winning a tag team match against King George and Saddam Hussein? hmm1.gif


Please don't muddle up American school children more than they already are. We have an uphill battle convincing them that Columbus's flagship wasn't the Mayflower and he didn't land in Massachusetts initially.
TINman
Uh, actually, Columbus never set foot on North American soil... Central America, yes and all around the Caribbean and even South America. Sorry.

Anyway, the Irish and Vikings (and some say Prince Henry Sinclair of Scotland) were visiting us up here in Canada long before Chris got the idea.

Nice pen, though.
Philip1209
QUOTE (TINman @ Sep 16 2008, 06:16 PM) *
Uh, actually, Columbus never set foot on North American soil... Central America, yes and all around the Caribbean and even South America. Sorry.

Anyway, the Irish and Vikings (and some say Prince Henry Sinclair of Scotland) were visiting us up here in Canada long before Chris got the idea.

Nice pen, though.


I thought he set foot on Florida-- am I thinking of Ponce DeLeon?
TINman
Ponce de Leon... and Walt Disney.
Ondina
QUOTE (Philip1209 @ Sep 17 2008, 12:26 PM) *
QUOTE (TINman @ Sep 16 2008, 06:16 PM) *
Uh, actually, Columbus never set foot on North American soil... Central America, yes and all around the Caribbean and even South America. Sorry.

Anyway, the Irish and Vikings (and some say Prince Henry Sinclair of Scotland) were visiting us up here in Canada long before Chris got the idea.

Nice pen, though.


I thought he set foot on Florida-- am I thinking of Ponce DeLeon?


Actually, the first European to set a foot on what today is North America (and prove it), was Ponce de León, Eater morning 1513. Don Pedro Menéndez de Avilés, who was later to become for long years the General Commander of the Armada, settled and founded St. Augustine, the first city, in honor of his home town Avilés, Asturias, saint patron in September the 8th, 1565.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Augustine,_Florida

IMHO, Cristóbal Colón is not what comes to my mind when you see the pen. But the design could be valid for other names.
Robert Hughes
Odd Christopher Columbus associations - I think of Indian slave labor and mountains of stolen Aztec gold, not statues of Liberty.
Renzhe
Whoa...dude...Chris has nothing to do with the United States of America....but a bunch of people already said that so don't mind me.
Atlas
QUOTE (Renzhe @ Sep 25 2008, 02:52 PM) *
Whoa...dude...Chris has nothing to do with the United States of America...


That's such a strong statement that even someone who has no knowledge of who Columbus was would be wise to bet against your claim. I could show you ways in which Socrates has something to do with the United States of America. Perhaps you are thinking of some very narrow notion of "x has something to do with y," but before you say something such as "Chris has nothing to do with the United States of America," you better define what "x has something to do with y" means. Even then, you still wouldn't be done. You would have to prove why that is the only correct notion of "x has something to do with y" in order to show absolutely that "Chris has nothing to do with the United States of America."

For those who prefer my concise position: what you said was foolish.
Renzhe
Atlas, I don't think we've met before. Hello.

It is obvious that our definitions of nothing differ, which is fine. However, because this is in the context of pens, I prefer my definition, and will remain a fool.
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