Can it be that the Pelikan 4001 Turqoise and Rohrer & Klingner 'Blu Mare' are the same inks?

Could it be that Pelikan buys its ink from R&K and then just repackages in their bottles?

IMHO they are so close in tone and color that they must be the same.

Can anyone confirm this?

Wow! What a thought!

I can't wait to hear the answer.

And any other news about inks that are badeged from other makers.

Solitaire

When that issue came up once (of ink makers making ink for other brands), I got the idea that Phil of Diamine didn't really know for sure but wasn't exactly ruling out that Diamine might do that for some folks.

We know Pelikan is open to outsourcing the nib, so it wouldn't shock me to know they outsource their ink production.

A chemist could reverse-engineer an ink by isolating the dye(s) and identifying them.

Pelikan has been making fantastic inks for a long time. I wouldn't doubt that they outsource inks, but at the same time I'd put my money on Pel inks being in-house. Beyond making pens, Pelikan specializes in making artist's paints, printer inks, etc etc. They make inks and paints for just about every purpose an ink or paint could fill.

With the above in mind, I'd say, if anything, it's R&K that's doing the repackaging.

One must keep in mind, a lot of manufacturers have inks that look similar to one another. Royal blue here looks similar to royal blue there. Black here looks similar to black there. etc etc

Hi,

I think Pelikan has moved their nib production back in-house. At least that's what I heard. A lot of turquoises look similar in color, at least to the casual onlooker; but then, put the inks together, and then go into the bright daylight, then you see that the inks look very slightly different.

Dillon