Hi guys! Plese help.

Anyone has used MB 4810 Lorenzo? How is its M nib? I wanna buy this pen for daily use. You konw, nowadays MB 4810 or 146 M nibs are too thick and wet for me, just could use to sign while not to write.

So, for this early Limited Edition Lorenzo, how does its M nib compare to current 4810 M nib or 146 M nib? Too thick and wet or good for daily use?

Thank you very much!

I dont have that pen in particular, but I have found that all my MB mediums write wet. I would go with a fine... If it turns out to fine, you could allways send it into MB...
Cheers!
B

Thanks Bryant! I also worry abou it. This year's Francois F nib is much wet and thcik and last year's Humboldt is okay. But I heard that early 4810 maybe thiner than current 4810 and M nib oaky for daily use.

Anyone has uesed this pen?

and i also heard that the pen was ONLY sold with M nibs.

The f nib one in the market is swapped from M nib.

Is that true?

But current 4810 such as Humboldt, Francois,also available on F nib. How come Lorenzo only sold with M nib?

Hi,

I have written with the Lorenzo di Medici about 10 to 12 weeks but the M nib is too thin and too dry for me.

And, yes, in 1992 the Medici only came with a M nib. But you could get a nib exchange at the Montblanc Service Center in Hamburg (only!). Up to the end of 90' there have been all nib sizes from EF to OBB available - but over the years some nib sizes went out of stock (like the OB I would have liked) and they will not be manufactured again because it's a specially engraved nib for an limited edition.

My recommendation: Buy the pen. And if you are not satisfied with the nib send the pen to John Mattishaw http://www.nibs.com and not to Montblanc.

Axel

Thank you very much, penparadise!

Your information is extremly helpful to me!

Think only the M nib for this pen is the true unchanged one and this pen's M nib may good for daily use

Thank you again!

Hello,

I agree with Axel. The older Patron of Arts were sold with M nibs and an offer for nib exchange for free to your choice of nib size (I don't know when the POA started to come with a F nib. I'm sure Axel knows). The plates and instruments used to produce the pens are destroyed at the end of each year. So if a part for the pen is not available in stock, it could not be reproduced. Since this pen is 16 years old, I think it's understandable why parts would not be available for it.

Regarding the nib performance, I also noticed that the older MB run a thinner dry line. My driest MB nib is the Agatha Christie.

So basically, and I agree with Axel again, that the only way to adjust a Lorenzo's nib performance and size is by a nibmeister.

Darius

Thanks Darius. I've also tried Agatha Christie (4810 Golden Snake version), but the M nib on it is too thick for me. Humbold's F nib is ok while Francois F nib is terrible

quite different

At the end of the day, MB nibs are hand polished, cut, tipped, ground and assembled. So variation in line width and wetness of individual nibs within a given size (range) designation of the same era, or the same pen even, are not uncommonly different.

Absolutely right! On onehundred F-nibs you'll not find two identical nibs.

Axel

That M nib is finer than M nibs on the Proust or Charlemagne. I can only concur with Rick Propas and say that the Medici nib is a very boring nib indeed - and that's un understatement. Mine is STIFF, noisy, toothy and unresponsive without having the slightest misalignement or defect under high power magnification. It feels like a $10 metal nibed school pen at its worst. Ink flow is impeccable though. I've just got my Medici back from a two month trip to MB in Hamburg with a letter saying that they have exhausted all the extra nibs for the Medici (even the F and M ones) and that they could not accomodate my nib swap request. The letter is signed by Maria-Luisa Schmidt from "MB Customer Service International". Go figure.

The nibs I have tried on regular 146 pens in stores have a lot more character. If I can't locate a vintage 146 nib to put on my Medici, I will probably just put a modern 146 one. And I'm sending the original heart-shaped nib to a nibmeister for a regrind to broad or something easy to be smooth in hopes that it will make me forget the utter stiffness and poor response (like a ST-Dupont nib?).

The MB Lorenzo Medici is otherwise a real treat! Great balance, much much lighter than the Charlemagne and I suspect lighter than the Proust! (I'll have to put them on a scale and see) A real writer's pen in the POA series, if there was ever one and the engravings are much more refined than any pen I have seen done in silver after 1940. What a disappointing nib though. Ouch.

PS When I sort this pen out I hope to post a review. This will have to do for now.

PPS The nib is fairly easy to pull (wiggle) out with the feed, as the section is solid and made of one piece, without additionnal pieces of housing inside.

Thanks RedRob for your detailed experience with Lorenzo!

I heard that Lorenzo nib should be a flexible nib with the heart hole

Really hope to see your review of Lorenzo!

Flexibility on a Lorenzo nib sounds to me like a myth. If you actually find a flexible one get it.