bilbok
Jul 1 2008, 07:04 PM
It doesn't work with mine.
Is it because water and ink are different ?
I have no ink so I tried with water.
Thanks
Pravda
Jul 1 2008, 07:13 PM
No I do not believe that ink and water are different.. if your pen is not filling water odds are it won't be filling ink either

I'd say get an ink bottle and try quick (the anticipation sucks) but i am pretty sure it wont.. have it checked
Daosus
Jul 1 2008, 07:17 PM

Ink and water aren't that different. I'm afraid if it won't fill with water, it won't fill with ink either.
Robert Hughes
Jul 1 2008, 07:32 PM
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Ink and water aren't that different.
Except one is a heckuva lot easier to read.
FrankB
Jul 1 2008, 07:34 PM
If your converter will not hold water, it will not hold ink. Your converter is defective and you need to replace it. If this is a new pen, contact the vendor you bought it from.
bilbok
Jul 1 2008, 07:37 PM
How deep inside the ink should the converter go?
When I put it deep, it works more or less.
When I dip only the tip, it doesn't fill in?
The black plastic piston which is on a stick is alway down when I pump.
P.S. I just understood that the converster should be on the pen !
donwinn
Jul 1 2008, 07:38 PM
Have you tried removing the converter and immersing the mouth of the converter directly into water? If it still won't draw water, it is defective. If it does draw water, get an ear syringe at the drug store, attach it to the back of the section/nib unit, submerge the nib, and pump it, ensuring that the feed and section will draw water.
If this is a new pen, it could just be a defective converter. If used, it could be dried ink clogging the feed. If it won't draw with an ear syringe through the feed/nib assembly, put the assembly in water mixed with a 1:10 solution of ammonia:water, i.e, 1 drop of ammonia for 10 drops of water. Soak overnight, then flush repeatedly to clear out the ammonia. Then it should draw water, or, preferably, ink.
Donnie
bilbok
Jul 1 2008, 07:41 PM
QUOTE
the mouth of the converter directly into water
?I only did that.
churl
Jul 2 2008, 06:37 PM
Ink is almost entirely water, so as previously mentioned, if it won't hold water, it won't hold ink.
The converter should be attached to the pen, and you want to submerge the ENTIRE nib and even part of the section (the grip part). Then use the converter to fill the pen. Most converters are twist or squeeze, or either twist the plunger so it can draw up ink, or squeeze the converter and hold submerged for a few seconds (with squeeze converters, this should be repeated a few times until no bubbles come up).
Most FP's come with directions, so if yours came with a box, find the instruction sheet. It will usually have pictures as well to help explain.
bilbok
Jul 3 2008, 04:07 PM
Actually, when thge converter ins in the pen, it works.
Why doesn't it work out of the pen ? Strange ?
lapis
Jul 3 2008, 07:11 PM
Ink and water are almost the same, yeah yeah, seen in a physico-chemical type of way. If any pen with any loading system (piston or cartidge or c/c or 51 aerometric and more etc) won't hold the one (of ink or water) then it won't hold the other one either. Ink is simply (seen as a solution) a dissolution of dyes etc (all water-soluble) in water. That's all.
If you're not sure or not happy with any one ink, wash out i.e. flush your FP 5-10 x with water (best distilled or deionized or water from a filter system in the kitchen like for green teas or for the ironing board or plants), then ditto with the same type of water including a few drops of washing detergent), then repeat with water alone and finally with a 2-3 x flush with the ink you're aiming at.
If all that doesn't work, get a new ink and/or a new pen!
Lots o' luck
Mike
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