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HDoug


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Doug
MicheleB
Very impressive. Thanks.
kaos
Thanks for the post, and thanks to you I think I have found an all weather journal I can use with a fountian pen.
donwinn
And where can one acquire one of these wonderful notebooks? Pointers appreciated.

Donnie
donwinn
Okay, I found the web site through a google search; has anybody used their notebooks other than the poly pages? They certainly look intriguing, if they are fountain pen friendly, I might have to get some.

Donnie
HDoug
QUOTE(donwinn @ Jul 2 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]658489[/snapback]
Okay, I found the web site through a google search; has anybody used their notebooks other than the poly pages? They certainly look intriguing, if they are fountain pen friendly, I might have to get some.

Donnie


I also tested some of their regular non-poly paper they sent me but I haven't gotten around to a "review" yet. That paper is also fountain pen friendly. No feathering, but you may get a little bit of print-through with wet nibs. I'll probably get around to scanning and posting those samples this weekend.

I would have to custom order one without lines (but with page numbers) so I think for the moment I'll stick with my Kunst & Papier journals...

Doug
R.ticle One
Great review, neat looking paper...and your handwriting is awesome!
kaos
I tired some of their poly paper today, and it is the smoothest writing paper I have ever used. Dry time is a bit long, but it is a small price to pay for water proof paper.
KCat
Great handwriting! And the review is good, too. smile.gif I have no need for something like this but think it's great that it's available.
kaos
Our company is planning on using the Eureka Poly Paper Lab Books, and from our tests they work great with ball point pens. The ink dries quickly and does not wash off. Unfortunately the same is not true with fountain pen ink. This sheet shows my tests, the blank area is actually Pelikan Royal Blue, it just washed off the sheet when I rinsed it under water.

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Basically, what I did was write on the sheet with various inks, waited a day and than rinsed the sheet under the faucet. Than I did another test where I let the ink dry 48 hours before I rinsed it.

So for work, I may have to use a ball point when using the company lab books.

Question: How do I post the PDF so that it can be viewed and does not have to be downloaded?
excarnate
QUOTE (kaos @ Jul 23 2008, 05:52 PM) *
Our company is planning on using the Eureka Poly Paper Lab Books, and from our tests they work great with ball point pens. The ink dries quickly and does not wash off. Unfortunately the same is not true with fountain pen ink.
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Question: How do I post the PDF so that it can be viewed and does not have to be downloaded?

I'm confused. The PDF seems to show that most fountain pen ink works fine. But you are drawing the conclusion that fountain pen ink doesn't. Why? It seems to me that most of the fountain pen inks you tried worked fine. A single brand of non-permanent ink washing off doesn't mean anything--what am I missing?

Also, you don't say WHICH Uni-ball you tried. Is it the forgery-resistant one (what, the 207 or 209?)?

If y'all will be using solvents, I'd suggest testing those (alcohol being the most likely to be used AND to remove ink w/o destroying paper :)

Your question about the PDF should be is "how do I post the information in the PDF so it can be viewed and does not have to be downloaded?" The answer then is to post .jpeg and .gif files, and I believe that's it. Check the site Help (upper right corner link), I believe it explains this in more depth (and with more authority :)
kaos
QUOTE (excarnate @ Jul 24 2008, 10:21 AM) *
QUOTE (kaos @ Jul 23 2008, 05:52 PM) *
Our company is planning on using the Eureka Poly Paper Lab Books, and from our tests they work great with ball point pens. The ink dries quickly and does not wash off. Unfortunately the same is not true with fountain pen ink.
...
Question: How do I post the PDF so that it can be viewed and does not have to be downloaded?

I'm confused. The PDF seems to show that most fountain pen ink works fine. But you are drawing the conclusion that fountain pen ink doesn't. Why? It seems to me that most of the fountain pen inks you tried worked fine. A single brand of non-permanent ink washing off doesn't mean anything--what am I missing?

Also, you don't say WHICH Uni-ball you tried. Is it the forgery-resistant one (what, the 207 or 209?)?

If y'all will be using solvents, I'd suggest testing those (alcohol being the most likely to be used AND to remove ink w/o destroying paper smile.gif

Your question about the PDF should be is "how do I post the information in the PDF so it can be viewed and does not have to be downloaded?" The answer then is to post .jpeg and .gif files, and I believe that's it. Check the site Help (upper right corner link), I believe it explains this in more depth (and with more authority smile.gif



The big problem with the fountain pen ink was not washing off, but the dry time. Even after two days it still smeared in my tests. I am going to try my fountain pen inks in a polypaper notebook to see how well it works. See if there are ink transfer issues when the book is closed, and see if it smears. If so, I will switch to a uniball.

I wll try to remove the ink with other solvents, but for our company it is water that we need to worry about.
excarnate
QUOTE (kaos @ Jul 24 2008, 06:15 PM) *
The big problem with the fountain pen ink was not washing off, but the dry time. Even after two days it still smeared in my tests.


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All of them smeared after 2 days? I'll have to find out what my wife uses in her lab (I believe the University supplies something).

If you don't have to worry about solvents, it would be nice if you tested, but it sounds like you did what you needed.
kaos
The fountian pen ink smeared on my test sheet even after a week. The smearing only stopped after I rinsed the sheet off, thus removing any fountain pen ink that did not "soak" into the polypaper surface.

I did a test on the sheet with alcohol. I rubbed a swab over the sheet, the ink smeared a bit, and than as the paper surface started to be removed, so was the ink. Hence the blank stripe you see top to bottom. So in order to remove the ink, you actually destroy the paper. Basically, I would assume that to remove the ink you destroy the surface of the paper, so it would be obvious if someone removed ink from the sheet. Areas that alcohol just dripped onto the sheet showed signs of the ink dissolving.

In conclusion, I do like this paper, and will try my fountain pens in a lab book. If the ink dry time is too long, and ink transfer occurs from one sheet to the next, than I wil have to switch to a ball point. However, if not, than I can stick with my fountian pen for these notebooks. I do plan on inserting a blank sheet of white paper beween the sheets as I write, but only for the previous 2 to 4 pages. I will provide an update as I use the lab book on my next project.

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