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110Mike
Jun 21 2008, 05:47 AM
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Hi

I have been offered this set

I have not personally checked it out, but from other pictures, the case condition and previous dealings with the seller, I take it to be in very good usable condition.

Any pointers with regard to the age, model, desirability, value etc will be much appreciated.

Apologies for the poor image.

Regards

Mike
Glenn-SC
Jun 21 2008, 01:41 PM
Is it a Vac or an Aero?

Color?

What does the Imprint on the barrel and the cap read?

Nib size/shape?

Jewel color?
gvl
Jun 21 2008, 02:05 PM
Looking at the photos, it appear to be a Mk II full size Parker 51 aerometric in Teal blue. Produced between the mid 1950s and 1967 I believe. 12ct rolled gold caps look to be in good condition.

A common Parker 51 set but desirable and collectable, particularly because the Parker 51 is one of the best fountain pens ever produced. Value - for a set like this is reasonable condition, I would expect to pay about $80. Before buying, check condition - eg dents, cracks, major scratches, personalisations, condition of nib etc, all of which effect value.

G
OldGriz
Jun 21 2008, 03:21 PM
QUOTE(gvl @ Jun 21 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]646777[/snapback]
Looking at the photos, it appear to be a Mk II full size Parker 51 aerometric in Teal blue. Produced between the mid 1950s and 1967 I believe. 12ct rolled gold caps look to be in good condition.

A common Parker 51 set but desirable and collectable, particularly because the Parker 51 is one of the best fountain pens ever produced. Value - for a set like this is reasonable condition, I would expect to pay about $80. Before buying, check condition - eg dents, cracks, major scratches, personalisations, condition of nib etc, all of which effect value.

G


Definitely not a MkII.... the MkII has the bottom of the barrel squared off just like the MkIII.... this is most likely a standard MkI 51...
The picture quality is not great and it could be a grey pen and pencil set... they tend to photograph in the blue range depending on the lighting...
Pete
Jun 21 2008, 04:38 PM
That looks like a p51 full sized aerometric set in Navy gray. From what I've seen gray is the least desirable 51 color. Assuming that it has the normal 51 nib and that the innards are ok it would go for maybe 60-70 on ebay, a bit more if its working, and perhaps alot more if it has an unusual nib. I'm not 100% on the ebay estimate, but I think its in the range. If bought from a respectable dealer you would expect to pay more, but also have a perfectly working pen.
gvl
Jun 21 2008, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(gvl @ Jun 21 2008, 10:05 AM)
Looking at the photos, it appear to be a Mk II full size Parker 51 aerometric in Teal blue. Produced between the mid 1950s and 1967 I believe. 12ct rolled gold caps look to be in good condition.

A common Parker 51 set but desirable and collectable, particularly because the Parker 51 is one of the best fountain pens ever produced. Value - for a set like this is reasonable condition, I would expect to pay about $80. Before buying, check condition - eg dents, cracks, major scratches, personalisations, condition of nib etc, all of which effect value.

G


Definitely not a MkII.... the MkII has the bottom of the barrel squared off just like the MkIII.... this is most likely a standard MkI 51...



I was describing this as a Mk II Parker 51, the Mk I being the Vacumatic. Sorry if I was a little unclear here.

I agree with Old Griz that this is a Mk I aerometric - this version probably produced after about 1955 as identified by the shorter clip to the cap. The Mk II 51 /Mk I aero was produced to 1969 - a couple of years later than suggested above.

I also agree, it could well be in navy gray and not teal. The color doesn't look strong enough to be teal.

The perils of writing quick messages before going out...
SquelchB
Jun 21 2008, 05:43 PM
I'd say it's rather Teal than Navy Grey. The whole photo is quite discolored.
110Mike
Jun 21 2008, 08:12 PM
Excuse my ignorance, try to educate me....

In marketplace I find a grey aerometric, stainless cap, engraved body (not) going for $50.

With an initial valuation of $80 (and others of $60 - $70) for this gold set in a box, how much is for the pen, and how much for the pencil and original case?

Are the gold cap ones only slightly more valuable than the stainless one?

Regards

Mike
Glenn-SC
Jun 21 2008, 10:55 PM
Gold Filled is more valuable than Lustraloy (Stainless steel).
Not engraved is more valuable than engraved.
Sets are more valuable than the pen alone.

Pencils alone (unless RARE) don't go for much.
110Mike
Jun 22 2008, 05:58 AM
Hi

Thanks for the replies. Please feel free to add further comment.

Meanwhile I found out that the gold on the pen and pencil is marked 1/10 12k R gold.

Does that help ID?

Regards

Mike
SquelchB
Jun 22 2008, 08:13 AM
QUOTE(110Mike @ Jun 22 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]647496[/snapback]
Hi

Thanks for the replies. Please feel free to add further comment.

Meanwhile I found out that the gold on the pen and pencil is marked 1/10 12k R gold.

Does that help ID?

Regards

Mike

All it says is that the cap is gold-filled with 12ct gold (500/000 gold) and the gold content is one tenth of the mass of the cap.
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