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Allan
QUOTE (lovelytofu358 @ Oct 3 2008, 01:51 PM) *
Hi there,

Can this be a fake?

Ebay UK MB146


"Can" it be? Sure. Is it? I highly doubt it. First, the nib looks quite real. Second, the guy has wonderful feedback.

Allan
Taylor61
Do all of the pen clips have "Pix" engraved on the underside? Will MB confirm a serial number? I purchased a pen on eBay and I am questioning its authenticity.
waffas
QUOTE (Taylor61 @ Oct 10 2008, 01:58 PM) *
Do all of the pen clips have "Pix" engraved on the underside? Will MB confirm a serial number? I purchased a pen on eBay and I am questioning its authenticity.

post a picture and the experts here will get back to you smile.gif
Taylor61
Here are some pics. My biggest concern is the pen I received has a different serial number than the one in the pics on the ebay listing. The clip has LAITON on the underside which i have read about in the other postings. I'm open for opinions. I have already filed with paypal to return the pen for a refund due to the SN difference. I have other photos per request.
penparadise
Looks real to me!

Axel
mandragoru
This is another one from Ebay. The nib picture shows very clear the fake, also the cap's lip.
penparadise
QUOTE (mandragoru @ Oct 12 2008, 08:38 PM) *
This is another one from Ebay. The nib picture shows very clear the fake, also the cap's lip.

Well, that is a fake. (And a very bad one as well!)

Axel
mandragoru
This Montblanc Meisterstick looks to me as dubious as its name. Any other opinions?

Sarrelangue
Hi,

Thanks a lot, I only opened my e mail Today.
FP will be shipped first thing Monday.
Thanks a lot for asking.

My youngest of 2 sons had two unexpected surgeries and the insurance has been taking ages to pay.
If and when they do, I might breath a little bit better. Meanwhile I'll just keep selling the pens. Good news is he is doing fine.

Thanks again.

Eda


QUOTE (mandragoru @ Oct 24 2008, 08:38 PM) *
This Montblanc Meisterstick looks to me as dubious as its name. Any other opinions?


waffas
More fakes... Buyer beware.

http://shop.ebay.ie/merchant/betong_2551

Regards

CMN
Sarrelangue
QUOTE (waffas @ Oct 26 2008, 10:29 PM) *
More fakes... Buyer beware.

http://shop.ebay.ie/merchant/betong_2551

Regards

CMN



thumbup.gif

Did you notice he's gone? No longer an E bay registered member. I wonder if it had something to do with your warning.
Ciao
Eda

ctakim
Hey I just got back from China where I got my first Mont Blanc fountain pen for less than 40 yuan ohmy.gif But I'm having problems identifying what model it is. What do you think? wink.gif
penparadise
QUOTE (ctakim @ Nov 2 2008, 03:18 AM) *
Hey I just got back from China where I got my first Mont Blanc fountain pen for less than 40 yuan ohmy.gif But I'm having problems identifying what model it is. What do you think? wink.gif

40 yuan is definately overpriced!
waffas
QUOTE (Sarrelangue @ Oct 30 2008, 02:00 AM) *
QUOTE (waffas @ Oct 26 2008, 10:29 PM) *
More fakes... Buyer beware.

http://shop.ebay.ie/merchant/betong_2551

Regards

CMN



thumbup.gif

Did you notice he's gone? No longer an E bay registered member. I wonder if it had something to do with your warning.
Ciao
Eda


Occasionally I write to ebay to take fakes offline, just to save someone getting burned somewhere. But to be honest sometimes I just dont have the patience to click through all the links to complain.

Selflessness has its limits rolleyes.gif
ctakim
QUOTE (penparadise @ Nov 2 2008, 11:17 AM) *
40 yuan is definately overpriced!


Yes, but it actually holds inks and writes! smile.gif
FredRydr
QUOTE (ctakim @ Nov 1 2008, 09:18 PM) *
What do you think? wink.gif

I think customs didn't poke around enough in your pocket!

Fred
ctakim
Here's the pen from China. I doubt it is going to fool any buyers, and don't worry, it is not for sale.
ussmacon
I just recently received a used Mont Blanc 149 in mint condition, that has me puzzled. The nib has all the correct markings when compared to my other 149, but the color of the nib is solid and has a copper look to it. The pen compares exactly in every other detail. Since this is an older pen before the bi- colored nibs, could ink left on the nib over a period of time, discolor it? Or did Mont Blanc make a special edition nib at some time. The pen in no way appears to be an imitation. I have 30 Mont Blancs, most are new, but a couple used, some antique. This one though really has me confused. unsure.gif
mandragoru
QUOTE (ussmacon @ Nov 6 2008, 10:19 AM) *
I just recently received a used Mont Blanc 149 in mint condition, that has me puzzled. The nib has all the correct markings when compared to my other 149, but the color of the nib is solid and has a copper look to it. The pen compares exactly in every other detail. Since this is an older pen before the bi- colored nibs, could ink left on the nib over a period of time, discolor it? Or did Mont Blanc make a special edition nib at some time. The pen in no way appears to be an imitation. I have 30 Mont Blancs, most are new, but a couple used, some antique. This one though really has me confused. unsure.gif


I never saw a plain gold nib on a 149, but I have a 146 with one. Posting some pictures of the nib (and pen) will be helpful.

And by the way, welcome to FPN!
penparadise
QUOTE (ussmacon @ Nov 6 2008, 10:19 AM) *
I just recently received a used Mont Blanc 149 in mint condition, that has me puzzled. The nib has all the correct markings when compared to my other 149, but the color of the nib is solid and has a copper look to it. The pen compares exactly in every other detail. Since this is an older pen before the bi- colored nibs, could ink left on the nib over a period of time, discolor it? Or did Mont Blanc make a special edition nib at some time. The pen in no way appears to be an imitation. I have 30 Mont Blancs, most are new, but a couple used, some antique. This one though really has me confused. unsure.gif

Don't worry, the nib is just tarnished and the platinum plating is worn off. Take a silver polishing cloth an polish the nib and you'll see the real yellow gold.

Axel
FredRydr
I don't understand how you guys end up with all these fakes, or are so paranoid about them. I ensure I don't get stuck with counterfeits simply by going to my local official Montblanc boutique and buy my pens and accessories through them.

Here's a photo of my local boutique, which has the best deals on Montblanc pens, far lower prices than I see on eBay. On top of that, I can buy a six-pack or some cigarettes, and can pawn a pen any time I want.

Fred
Titivillus
QUOTE (FredRydr @ Nov 6 2008, 07:41 PM) *
I don't understand how you guys end up with all these fakes, or are so paranoid about them. I ensure I don't get stuck with counterfeits simply by going to my local official Montblanc boutique and buy my pens and accessories through them.

Here's a photo of my local boutique, which has the best deals on Montblanc pens, far lower prices than I see on eBay. On top of that, I can buy a six-pack or some cigarettes, and can pawn a pen any time I want.

Fred



Is that the one over in King of Prussia?
Kalessin
QUOTE (ussmacon @ Nov 6 2008, 04:19 AM) *
I just recently received a used Mont Blanc 149 in mint condition, that has me puzzled. The nib has all the correct markings when compared to my other 149, but the color of the nib is solid and has a copper look to it. The pen compares exactly in every other detail. Since this is an older pen before the bi- colored nibs, could ink left on the nib over a period of time, discolor it? Or did Mont Blanc make a special edition nib at some time. The pen in no way appears to be an imitation. I have 30 Mont Blancs, most are new, but a couple used, some antique. This one though really has me confused. unsure.gif


It took me a bit to remember where I saw the photo of a genuine 149 with a single-color gold nib, but here it is:
http://www.fountainpen.de/old-80er-149-vollgoldfeder.htm
PigRatAndGoat
This isn't quite a fake per say, but what do you guys think of this pen? http://www.isellpens.com/dewen.html
The one on the top. I really don't like it, but some people think there is nothing wrong with it. What's your thoughts?
penparadise
QUOTE (PigRatAndGoat @ Nov 8 2008, 12:50 AM) *
This isn't quite a fake per say, but what do you guys think of this pen? http://www.isellpens.com/dewen.html
The one on the top. I really don't like it, but some people think there is nothing wrong with it. What's your thoughts?

It is a fake. See here: http://www.maxpens.de/rubberfakes/rubberfake.htm

Regards,
Axel
PigRatAndGoat
QUOTE (penparadise @ Nov 8 2008, 10:13 AM) *
QUOTE (PigRatAndGoat @ Nov 8 2008, 12:50 AM) *
This isn't quite a fake per say, but what do you guys think of this pen? http://www.isellpens.com/dewen.html
The one on the top. I really don't like it, but some people think there is nothing wrong with it. What's your thoughts?

It is a fake. See here: http://www.maxpens.de/rubberfakes/rubberfake.htm

Regards,
Axel


Well, you see, I never calls itself a MB (A different logo floats in the cap, and the word Montblanc never shows up on the pen. Thats why I'm confused.
lferg
I am sure I will be crucified for this but I own over 20 fake MB pens. I have fake MB leather goods and even the Urban Walker key ring. How ever I also own almost as much genuine MB things as well. I really like getting the fake things to compare and it's just fun. I do how ever believe that the fake market does not really hurt the sale of genuine articles due to the price. For those of us who do collect MB things like my self we would never buy a fake as a genuine. I think the fakes are fun. MB has gotten LOTS of $$$ from me through out the years and the fake dealers are happy with the $100 or so I have given them. Truth be told I only started buying the real things after I had a few fakes.
HerosNSuch
QUOTE (lovelytofu358 @ Oct 3 2008, 03:51 PM) *
Hi there,

Can this be a fake?

Ebay UK MB146


Feedback aside, most counterfeiters don't make the effort to re-create MB's nib design. That's why the Star Walker is the most faked now(IPG nib).
HerosNSuch
QUOTE (Taylor61 @ Oct 10 2008, 07:58 AM) *
Do all of the pen clips have "Pix" engraved on the underside? Will MB confirm a serial number? I purchased a pen on eBay and I am questioning its authenticity.


Only newer pens have PIX, and slightly less new(mid-eighties and up) have serials.
HerosNSuch
QUOTE (Taylor61 @ Oct 10 2008, 11:52 AM) *
Here are some pics. My biggest concern is the pen I received has a different serial number than the one in the pics on the ebay listing. The clip has LAITON on the underside which i have read about in the other postings. I'm open for opinions. I have already filed with paypal to return the pen for a refund due to the SN difference. I have other photos per request.


If it was a good price, hold on to that puppy. It has all the earmarks of real. Even the METAL3 mark.
HerosNSuch
QUOTE (penparadise @ Nov 8 2008, 10:13 AM) *
QUOTE (PigRatAndGoat @ Nov 8 2008, 12:50 AM) *
This isn't quite a fake per say, but what do you guys think of this pen? http://www.isellpens.com/dewen.html
The one on the top. I really don't like it, but some people think there is nothing wrong with it. What's your thoughts?

It is a fake. See here: http://www.maxpens.de/rubberfakes/rubberfake.htm

Regards,
Axel



The difference there is that it isn't parading itself around in a MB costume. Baoer acknowledges that this pen is not a MB. That's what makes a counterfeit; the manufacturer tries to pass their fake off as a real something else.
Just my 2 cents.
Getsurin
There are types of counterfeiters who try to absolve themselves by putting their logo somewhere in the product.
I wonder if MB has trademarked the Skywalker design.
ussmacon
I'm heading out to the garage for some nails. Supporting a fake by creating a demand through purchase will eventually hurt someone who spends a lot of money and gets taken. While the fakes may or may not make a claim to be an original, it does hurt the real Montblanc company. I've spent a lot of money on Montblanc also, I believe that when you buy a Montblanc, you should get a Montblanc. They have spent a century developing a reputation that now has to be safegarded to protect their name and the investment their buyers have made in their products, from the junk on the market. It's the principle of the issue that is so disturbing. That a foreign company can violate patents and copyrights, then make copies using someone else's design, is pathetic. Imitations cheapen the name when the fake items are bought by unsuspecting people, and the quality isn't there.



QUOTE (lferg @ Nov 8 2008, 09:04 PM) *
I am sure I will be crucified for this but I own over 20 fake MB pens. I have fake MB leather goods and even the Urban Walker key ring. How ever I also own almost as much genuine MB things as well. I really like getting the fake things to compare and it's just fun. I do how ever believe that the fake market does not really hurt the sale of genuine articles due to the price. For those of us who do collect MB things like my self we would never buy a fake as a genuine. I think the fakes are fun. MB has gotten LOTS of $$$ from me through out the years and the fake dealers are happy with the $100 or so I have given them. Truth be told I only started buying the real things after I had a few fakes.
FredRydr
Some entire boutiques have been discovered to be fakes. This one in Vienna was found to have been constructed out of cheap cardboard and plexiglas, and rather than screws and nails, it was simply glued together. The glue was not yet dry when the city authorities arrived to seize the boutique after an FPN member complained, but only after having bought the shop on eBay for €997. The identical real boutique was in the next street, but he said he was looking for a bargain.

Fred



PigRatAndGoat
@ FredRydr:

SERIOUSLY? yikes.gif That is insanely ballsy of someone to even think of doing that!
mandragoru
The pens offered here looks like the real deal, but the prices aren't. BIN of 199 euros for a Kafka or a Fitzgerald set? NO WAY!
mandragoru
Here is another Ebay Fitzgerald. It looks OK, even has the boxes, but the nib is clearly fake:
Q: Can you describe the letters/words/numbers/markings on the nib?
A: hi, it is original never used it says iridium point paris with the montblanc logo
RevAaron
The Baoer isn't a fake. It is not the same pen as the one on the Maxpens.de page. A rip-off, yes. But that's how those things go when you produce something people like. I hope US copyright law doesn't get moronic to the point where you can copyright a grid pattern, and get away with enforcing it.

It's funny, because of all the alarmist talk folks make about fakes, they seem to be pretty infrequent. That Fitzgerald is one of the few I've seen in this thread and elsewhere that is an actual fake- a pen purporting to be a certain model of pen made by Montblanc that is not.

What scares me is the idea of folks emailing eBay, other auction/sales sites or posting in FS threads that certain pens are fake, when a more knowledgeable person can tell it isn't. I've seen auctions on eBay where folks accuse the seller of selling a fake MB, when in reality it's just something vintage. A lot of well intentioned newbies are unaware of the changes that have occurred over the years since the introduction of the 14x line.

With LEs and new only models it's a lot easier to suss out. If a nib says "Iridium" on it, it wasn't made by MB- and thus the pen itself is likely fake or a clone/homage. tongue.gif

Aaron
Sarrelangue

Hi there!!


Need to share this FP Offered on the web as the France Games conmemorative FP made by Mont Blanc.

Comments please.






http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/


Click to view attachment

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Michael R.
Not a real MB
sick.gif

Michael
Michael R.
QUOTE (mandragoru @ Nov 25 2008, 05:46 AM) *
Here is another Ebay Fitzgerald. It looks OK, even has the boxes, but the nib is clearly fake:
Q: Can you describe the letters/words/numbers/markings on the nib?
A: hi, it is original never used it says iridium point paris with the montblanc logo


This kind of Fitzgerald also comes in a variety of colors (purple, red, green, ... )

sick.gif

Auction ended at almost 400 US $; somebody will be very disapointed if he/she will ever find ou!

Michael
langelarsen
Hi there

Does this one look real to you? It even says it is a meisterstück and not a starwalker?

Click to view attachment

Jacob
Denmark
Darius
QUOTE (langelarsen @ Dec 15 2008, 01:50 PM) *
Hi there

Does this one look real to you? It even says it is a meisterstück and not a starwalker?

Click to view attachment

Jacob
Denmark

This is absolutely a very bad fake. A Starwalker style transparent cap top and grid pattern on a Meisterstuck style body. An authentic version of it does not exist.
langelarsen
QUOTE (Darius @ Dec 15 2008, 12:00 PM) *
QUOTE (langelarsen @ Dec 15 2008, 01:50 PM) *
Hi there

Does this one look real to you? It even says it is a meisterstück and not a starwalker?

Click to view attachment

Jacob
Denmark

This is absolutely a very bad fake. A Starwalker style transparent cap top and grid pattern on a Meisterstuck style body. An authentic version of it does not exist.


Thanks
memphislawyer
Is this a fake?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=220329090378
Kalessin
Unfortunately, the photo is too distant to really tell easily. The tapered shape and ring spacing and sizes look about right, but closer photos of the pen, clip, and author signature would really help with a better opinion.

As usual, opinions about pens pictured on the web are chancy unless the detail is really really good or the seller is well-known.
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