This pen has no rings.
Full Version: ID Needed, Strange Parker Duofold
Does anyone where this Duofold come from?
This pen has no rings.
This pen has no rings.
Modern Parker Duofold, c/c filler...made sometime in the 1980s or sometime more recently than that. Can't be sure of the size, though.
I really like the "bandless" look!
Never seen any of those. Weird, but sort of appealing.
Not one I've seen either.
I'd almost think it's some sort of fake..
Are the photographs original?
(ie not retouched)
(ie not retouched)
QUOTE(london @ Jun 20 2008, 02:44 AM) [snapback]645548[/snapback]
Are the photographs original?
(ie not retouched)
(ie not retouched)
This pen belong to my friend.
He doesn't know where this pen come from.
So we are looking for support here.
I believe this photo is original.
I would suspect that it may be a Chinese "replica". However I've known of replicas/fakes which had genuine nibs/sections before now.
A close-up of markings on the barrel end would be a little helpful.
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Based on these photos it looks genuine to me. I recall seeing a similar modern Duofold being offered on eBay recently with no cap bands that was describe as an early prototype. I have no information to confirm that such prototypes were ever produced, but it is possible.
Mark
Mark
There's nothing about a bandless version, even as a prototype, in the Duofold book. I would bet that either the entire pen is a non-Parker replica or that the cap is a replica with a mid-1990s Duofold barrel. The barrel, having a single ring on the section and at the end of the barrel, would be appropriate for a streamlined cap of the mid-1990s and not a flat top from the late 80s/early 90s. While it's a cool look, I doubt that it's original Parker.
QUOTE(John Danza @ Jun 21 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]646807[/snapback]
There's nothing about a bandless version, even as a prototype, in the Duofold book. I would bet that either the entire pen is a non-Parker replica or that the cap is a replica with a mid-1990s Duofold barrel. The barrel, having a single ring on the section and at the end of the barrel, would be appropriate for a streamlined cap of the mid-1990s and not a flat top from the late 80s/early 90s. While it's a cool look, I doubt that it's original Parker.
Chris Thompson?
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QUOTE(John Danza @ Jun 21 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]646807[/snapback]
There's nothing about a bandless version, even as a prototype, in the Duofold book. I would bet that either the entire pen is a non-Parker replica or that the cap is a replica with a mid-1990s Duofold barrel. The barrel, having a single ring on the section and at the end of the barrel, would be appropriate for a streamlined cap of the mid-1990s and not a flat top from the late 80s/early 90s. While it's a cool look, I doubt that it's original Parker.
Chris Thompson?
Chris marks his as replicas as such on the barrel, doesn't he?
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Chris marks his as replicas as such on the barrel, doesn't he?
I'm not sure, I never handled any of his pens. However it seems likely.
That would leave a fake or a prototype. I think the former is more likely.
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QUOTE(SquelchB @ Jun 21 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]646928[/snapback]
QUOTE(John Danza @ Jun 21 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]646807[/snapback]
There's nothing about a bandless version, even as a prototype, in the Duofold book. I would bet that either the entire pen is a non-Parker replica or that the cap is a replica with a mid-1990s Duofold barrel. The barrel, having a single ring on the section and at the end of the barrel, would be appropriate for a streamlined cap of the mid-1990s and not a flat top from the late 80s/early 90s. While it's a cool look, I doubt that it's original Parker.
Chris Thompson?
Chris marks his as replicas as such on the barrel, doesn't he?
Yes, Chris marks all his pens as "Replica" with a date. The photo below is my Chris Thompson Parker Red Giant replica, with the barrel marked "Replica 2004" (kinda hard to see in this photo). In this case, Chris didn't have to mark this pen because Parker never made a screw top Red Giant, but he didn't want to take any chances.
There have been others doing replica Duofolds over the years, and I don't know if those were marked "replica". I know Mike Fultz had a business going on that until Parker told him to cease and desist. His barrels and caps weren't marked replica, I believe, but they weren't marked Parker either. However he used some Parker parts, like the nib units and the clips.
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Based on these photos it looks genuine to me. I recall seeing a similar modern Duofold being offered on eBay recently with no cap bands that was describe as an early prototype. I have no information to confirm that such prototypes were ever produced, but it is possible.
Mark
Mark
The yellow one on ebay looks similar I think - dunno if ists still there, but there were also no Parker markings except on the nib. So I didn't express interest at the price which was north of $400. Didn't think it could be a prototype.
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