jdboucher
Jun 10 2008, 04:19 PM
When I use Baystate blue, it looks almost purple. In scans I have seen it looks like a true blue. Is something wrong? Could it be the paper?
Limerick
Jun 10 2008, 04:44 PM
That's strange; my Baystate Blue looks absolute blue to me. No purple undertones.
simonrob
Jun 10 2008, 04:49 PM
QUOTE(jdboucher @ Jun 10 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]636585[/snapback]
When I use Baystate blue, it looks almost purple. In scans I have seen it looks like a true blue. Is something wrong? Could it be the paper?
Mine doesn't look purple at all; a rare true blue. Was the pen you put it in quite free of old ink? I doubt paper would make much difference, but you could always try (even doing something trivial like dipping a paper tissue or towel into it). If it looks purplish no matter what, perhaps you bought a bottle that was mislabeled....
Simon
jdboucher
Jun 10 2008, 04:55 PM
I'm using it in a Lamy 2000 F. I'm pretty sure that I cleaned the pen really well. Before putting BSB in it, I had Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue in the pen. I'm using Mean Five Star Notebooks. I have two bottles so maybe ill try the other bottle and see if theres a difference. Maybe I could post a scan later.
JDlugosz
Jun 10 2008, 10:04 PM
QUOTE(jdboucher @ Jun 10 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]636585[/snapback]
When I use Baystate blue, it looks almost purple. In scans I have seen it looks like a true blue. Is something wrong? Could it be the paper?
Or your light?
Take it outside and look at it in open shade.
There is no way it would be classified as purple. The hue is 218°, which is on the cyan side, not the magenta side, of perfect blue (240°). Go into a paint program and compare Hue=218° and 240, S=100%, any brightness. Play with the Hue slider to see what your personal perception is. The Blue primary is located at H=4Π/3, er, 240°.
JDlugosz
Jun 10 2008, 10:06 PM
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Maybe I could post a scan later.
Do you have a gray card you can include in the scan? Otherwise I don't know what that would prove, other than how the white balance guessed or how you adjusted the settings.
jdboucher
Jun 11 2008, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(jdboucher @ Jun 10 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]636625[/snapback]
Maybe I could post a scan later.
Do you have a gray card you can include in the scan? Otherwise I don't know what that would prove, other than how the white balance guessed or how you adjusted the settings.
i dont think i have one, but i can try to find something gray to include in the scan. ill post one tomorrow.
eherreid
Jun 11 2008, 05:00 PM
Baystate Blue seems to vary more than any of my other inks under different lighting. In sunlight, it's most definitely a truly intense blue, so vibrant it almost seems to float above the page. Under certain florescent lighting, I do see an almost purple tint. But in that case, it's the lighting, not the ink. Could that be a part of the equation?
jdboucher
Jun 11 2008, 05:47 PM
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Baystate Blue seems to vary more than any of my other inks under different lighting. In sunlight, it's most definitely a truly intense blue, so vibrant it almost seems to float above the page. Under certain florescent lighting, I do see an almost purple tint. But in that case, it's the lighting, not the ink. Could that be a part of the equation?
hmmm interesting. Im going to go check.
digitalnative
Jun 12 2008, 04:55 AM
On a "Blueness Scale" I see Waterman BB -> PR Lake Placid Blue -> DCSS Blue -> Baystate Blue. BSB is the richest blue I've come across so far.
jdboucher
Jun 12 2008, 02:37 PM
I put the ink in natural light and it does look more like a true blue than in fluorescent light.
JDlugosz
Jun 13 2008, 01:14 AM
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I put the ink in natural light and it does look more like a true blue than in fluorescent light.
What kind of paper is it? Perhaps the brightness enhancers mess up your eye's automatic white-balance adjustment by not appearing correctly white under that light.
Did you try playing with a Hue slider? Where do you start to see purple?
--John
wiglaf
Jun 13 2008, 02:06 PM
Spill some on your hands or clothes, and then calculate how many hours it takes to remove- more than two days, it's probably BSB
Tony
jdboucher
Jun 13 2008, 05:06 PM
haha its def baystate blue, the ink stains a lot......i just noticed some purple color
psfred
Jun 28 2008, 04:51 PM
Whether or not you see purple in Baystate depends on how you perceive color, I think. If you see purple, you will also be driven crazy by HID headlights -- you see further into the UV that people who don't see purple in Baystate or Tanzanite, which I see as screaming fag purple, not blue at all.
I just got a bottle of Baystate, and it's a very nice blue, but does, under some lighting conditions (fluorescent energy saver bulbs) have a definite purple cast. In daylight it's a lovely blue.
Now if I can just find a pen and paper combination where it doesn't feather like crazy....
I was hoping to use it at work, this may not be an option if it feathers so much.
Peter
pakmanpony
Jun 28 2008, 06:16 PM
I love the color of BSB!! I finally cleaned out a pen that had been filled with BSB and had to go get some clorox clean up spray to get the stain out of the sink!!! Don't know if it stained the pen as the pen is a Translucent Blue (which is the main reason I tried this ink out in that pen!).
hardyb
Jun 28 2008, 06:24 PM
I have absolute proof that BSB is not blue. I spilled a whole bottle down the front of our white kitchen cabinets and my wife saw red and I saw stars. Now as soon as the swelling around my eyes goes down, I may see it as blue again but we will see!
Ondina
Jun 28 2008, 07:27 PM
QUOTE(hardyb @ Jun 28 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]654190[/snapback]
I have absolute proof that BSB is not blue. I spilled a whole bottle down the front of our white kitchen cabinets and my wife saw red and I saw stars. Now as soon as the swelling around my eyes goes down, I may see it as blue again but we will see!
DanF
Jun 28 2008, 08:38 PM
QUOTE(jdboucher @ Jun 10 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]636625[/snapback]
I'm using Mean Five Star Notebooks.
Maybe that mean paper is playing a trick on you.
Dan
JayLo
Jun 29 2008, 12:58 PM
QUOTE(wiglaf @ Jun 13 2008, 07:06 AM) [snapback]639494[/snapback]
Spill some on your hands or clothes, and then calculate how many hours it takes to remove- more than two days, it's probably BSB
Tony
Yep! That will do it! Speaking from experience.
SamCapote
Jun 30 2008, 09:59 PM
QUOTE(hardyb @ Jun 28 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]654190[/snapback]
I have absolute proof that BSB is not blue. I spilled a whole bottle down the front of our white kitchen cabinets and my wife saw red and I saw stars. Now as soon as the swelling around my eyes goes down, I may see it as blue again but we will see!

On white kitchen cabinets no less!!! I would just consider painting them a nice blue color as the best solution.
menick
Jul 3 2008, 03:55 AM
the best trick for me to see the undertones is to dilute it in water... just a few drops in a glass and look at it...
For me, there is mucho purple undertone... but unless you dilute it, it is not that strong (but still there).
nick
Alexei
Jul 25 2008, 09:48 AM
The BSB looks to be on the purplish side to me too. What I found strange was that when I went to the post office and signed the receipt, the ink looked like a true blue compared to when I wrote on other kinds of paper.
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