Can someone compare Antietam to Havana Brown? HB is one of my favorite inks and I'm interested in trying Antietam. However, it would be a waste of time if it's too similar to HB. At the same time, I don't really want a red ink. Ultimately, I'm really looking for a redder shade of brown than HB.

Thanks,
Richard

The Writing Desk "Col-o-rama" may help. Waterman Havana is here, among the browns; Noodler's Antietam is among the red inks, here.

Sailor Red-Brown seems like an amazing ink. I haven't seen it direcly compared to Antietam, but Antietam is a rusty orange that is red in a wet pen, so I don't think you want it. It's quite different from Havana.

FPN Galileo Manuscript Brown is also in the family of reddish rusty "browns"... and almost-completely waterproof (a bit of pink will run). Proceeds support FPN, too!!

Yet another choice is Diamine Burnt Sienna.

None of these are classical browns, and will look red when next to something like Havana.

I think that Melnicki is right, and that the Sailor is what you need. I have both that and Antietam, and the latter, while a beautiful colour and one of my favourites, is not brown by any stretch of the imagination. If it helps, the linked scan of the Diamine is, on my monitor, exactly the colour of Sailor red/brown. The scan of the Sailor seems a little too red to me.

I'm a big fan of Sailor inks generally. Interesting colours and a lovely creaminess to the flow.

John

Antietam is a great deep red in a wetter pen. I have been able to use it as a general purpose ink successfully. I also have HB and it is definitely more brown, but the colors are equally good as general users. Antietam is definitely brighter red in a dryer pen, though. It is a beautiful and versatile red.

Best,
Summer

Thanks for the suggestions. I've actually decided to go a different route. After years of using nothing but Pelikan Royal Blue, I now have a designated color for each of my pens (though not all pens are inked at all times).

I was looking for a traditional color to use in a Parker Duofold when I realized that I don't have any black ink at home. A bottle of Noodler's Black later, and the problem is solved!

Richard

I have them both. Antietam is nothing whatsoever like Havana Brown. It is on the borderline between burnt orange and brick red, depending on how wet your pen writes and how long the ink has been sitting around in it. Definitely not a brown - not in my conception of "brown" anyway. I would say that its closest match amongst other inks is PR Orange Crush - I find them to be very similar indeed from a distance, but the Antietam is definitely redder when you look at it closer up. (Orange Crush is a dreadful smearer, so Antietam wins on that score too.)