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JDlugosz
I ordered some samples of Neenah paper, and my first impression was that the "smooth" was not! Reading in these forums, there is no review on Neenah and very little said about it. But I have seen several comments that the HP Prem. Laser is "exceptionally smooth", so that's what I'm comparing it against.

It's a real drag, too! My new fine-nib Lamy All-Star felt like driving a truck. I think perhaps I'm applying too much pressure and the ultra-smooth paper doesn't mind so much. So how smooth is smooth, for efficient and ergonomic writing?

Meanwhile, I'm wondering if the added texture gives more expressiveness and tonal variation, and that would be an appeal to those. Or maybe it's easier to control if you're not ice-skating?

Should I say "yuck, I'll shop for ultra-ultra-polished smooth", or say "hmm, I must still be applying too much pressure" and see if that helps my hand? Just what is "smooth" and how do these notepads that are always being discussed line up in this respect?

--John
jbb
I use Neenah Bond, cockle finish, 25% cotton paper for dip pens. It's wonderful for that because it shows shading and line variation. Some pens write better on smooth paper, other nibs cannot live up to their potential if they're just gliding along. In general my flex nib pens are better on toothier paper.
JDlugosz
QUOTE(jbb @ May 23 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]619750[/snapback]
In general my flex nib pens are better on toothier paper.


That makes sense.
skipwilliams
You need to buy the Neenah Smooth or Super-smooth papers to get the best finish.

Skip
RayMan
For me, the gold standard in terms of smoothness is Clairefontaine Triomphe.
JDlugosz
QUOTE(skipwilliams @ May 23 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]619984[/snapback]
You need to buy the Neenah Smooth or Super-smooth papers to get the best finish.


That is "smooth" I was talking about.

QUOTE(rayman)
For me, the gold standard in terms of smoothness is Clairefontaine Triomphe.


I ordered a note pad to try.

--John
DanF
I got some samples recently too, and I prefer the laid finishes to the smooth. This is the 24# Classic Laid imaging paper from Neenah Papers. Counter intuitively, it's actually smoother than the Classic Crest Smooth, which I find has a bit more tooth. The laid finish is more apparent visually then texturally, and is only on one side of the sheet, the other side being smooth. The smooth side produces a slightly wider line, but the line is clean, not ragged.

Dan
CharlieB
Try Rhodia or Clairefontaine.
JDlugosz
QUOTE(DanF @ May 24 2008, 05:51 AM) [snapback]620637[/snapback]
I got some samples recently too, and I prefer the laid finishes to the smooth. This is the 24# Classic Laid imaging paper from Neenah Papers. Counter intuitively, it's actually smoother than the Classic Crest Smooth, which I find has a bit more tooth. The laid finish is more apparent visually then texturally, and is only on one side of the sheet, the other side being smooth. The smooth side produces a slightly wider line, but the line is clean, not ragged.

Dan


Which version do you like? Searching their site, there is regular, imaging, and laid surfaces for "Classic Laid".
DanF
QUOTE(JDlugosz @ May 24 2008, 06:33 AM) [snapback]620698[/snapback]
QUOTE(DanF @ May 24 2008, 05:51 AM) [snapback]620637[/snapback]
I got some samples recently too, and I prefer the laid finishes to the smooth. This is the 24# Classic Laid imaging paper from Neenah Papers. Counter intuitively, it's actually smoother than the Classic Crest Smooth, which I find has a bit more tooth. The laid finish is more apparent visually then texturally, and is only on one side of the sheet, the other side being smooth. The smooth side produces a slightly wider line, but the line is clean, not ragged.

Dan


Which version do you like? Searching their site, there is regular, imaging, and laid surfaces for "Classic Laid".


Whitestone is item # 903111, Ivorystone is #908131. They call it "Classic Laid Imaging"

Dan
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