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tonyD
Hi all,

I picked up 5 Stainless GT Parker 45 Fountain pens. Added to collection and a couple to sell.

What are the panel's opinion on the 45s ?

What is a good price for these ?

Thanks
jakespeed
I was wondering the same thing. I have the same pen as you describe, and I've used it off and on for a few months. I never really got into it, because it is a little too narrow for my hands. I was going to take some pictures and list for $25 shipped CONUS.
fibreglass_works
all I can say is that they are a good pen, I remembered correctly, they were the first fountain pen my dad gave me to date I have about 30 pcs. I would ask for $30/- each but with no intends to sell soon. hope you enjoy yours and good result with your coming sale.
vermiculus
I think it depends on the filler - in my eyes, c/c types perhaps $30, and maybe $40 for an inbuilt aero with a sac protector.
What kind did you get?
SquelchB
QUOTE(vermiculus @ May 22 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]618725[/snapback]
I think it depends on the filler - in my eyes, c/c types perhaps $30, and maybe $40 for an inbuilt aero with a sac protector.
What kind did you get?

45's didn't come with inbuilt Aero AFAIK. They were C/C only.
jakespeed
I got mine from Montgomery Pens, with no papers and a box which I don't know if it was original or not. The nib on this pen is gold colored, but does anybody know how to tell if it's gold plate or gold or just gold colored?
Richard
QUOTE(vermiculus @ May 22 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]618725[/snapback]
I think it depends on the filler...

Squelch is right. Read my 45 profile. tongue.gif
belfast-popeye
Richard has got it right read his 45 profile. 45's were only c/c filled. As far as value you can pick up a standard colour/lust cap for as little as $10, premiums are rarer colours, olive, orange, yellow, turq, rage red. Then there are the higher line models with the gold filled caps, or the insignia 45 and the coronets in rarer colours blue, green, red and of course the etched harlequins...sheild and circlet. To check out what your nib is made from unscrew from the section and with your finger and thumb push back the black collar to reveal the full nib. All sorts of nibs were made in all widths, most premium are the 10/12/14ct gold stubs, obliques.
SquelchB
Sorry to threadjack, but what exactly is the Coronet? I mean, what are its specifics? Thanks..
MYU
The Parker 45 is a really great pen, probably one of the most affordable good quality pens that have been on the market, next to the Lamy Safari/Al-Star. One of the nice attributes is that so many of them were made that you can often find one very budget priced off of FleaBay. I've seen used examples as cheap as $9.99 and mint examples over $50 (some rarer models). Tons of variations exist. The flighter (all brushed steel) is a handsome solid pen. If you really like that version, then you'll probably find the Harlequin series even more appealing (there were two styles: shield and circlet).

In short, the Parker 45 is an extremely easy pen to maintain, has an excellent nib design, and has a size/weight ratio that makes it easy to use for most people.
Romagno
I love 45's. I used the same pen from 7th Grade through high school, college, medical school, and into my residency. I lost that one, but have replaced it, and then some. It thrives on no maintenance, the nib/feed is easily changed by the user - a great workhorse pen.
J English Smith
P45: Under-rated but wonderful.

This topic made me want to buy another one, so I went off and combed eBay for a sec.

Prices are definitely up. Harder to get a deal than a couple of months ago.

I've bought 9 of them, and all in the $8 - 23 range, though maybe those days are over.

The flighers seem to command higher prices - for a clean one, $25 to $40 seems like the current range.

Harlequins and Coronets are more.

The all plastic English ones don't do it for me - I like the early ones with the Lustraloy caps.

Enjoy your 45s!
DeeJay
QUOTE(SquelchB @ May 22 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]619097[/snapback]
Sorry to threadjack, but what exactly is the Coronet? I mean, what are its specifics? Thanks..


Does this help -

http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=20577
lovemy51
i saw this site with a 45 listed as aero-metric... ??????????? hmm1.gif

http://www.1001pens.com/ProdDesc.asp?cat=-1&id=pn20898

fake??
vermiculus
QUOTE(SquelchB @ May 22 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]618831[/snapback]
45's didn't come with inbuilt Aero AFAIK. They were C/C only.


QUOTE(Richard @ May 22 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]618925[/snapback]
Squelch is right. Read my 45 profile. tongue.gif


Oh. I was jotting a shopping list with my first vintage pen, a 45, as I read this... and had a go. I thought that thing was fixed in place! I was a bit stunned to have the pen in five bits instead of four. unsure.gif
Juan in Andalucia
QUOTE(vermiculus @ May 23 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]619570[/snapback]
QUOTE(SquelchB @ May 22 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]618831[/snapback]
45's didn't come with inbuilt Aero AFAIK. They were C/C only.


QUOTE(Richard @ May 22 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]618925[/snapback]
Squelch is right. Read my 45 profile. tongue.gif


Oh. I was jotting a shopping list with my first vintage pen, a 45, as I read this... and had a go. I thought that thing was fixed in place! I was a bit stunned to have the pen in five bits instead of four. unsure.gif


The 45 was the 1st pen which could use both cartridges or the converter. At least that's how it was advertised. It was the 1st pen I owned, so my opinion is biased; I love them.

Juan
Richard
QUOTE(lovemy51 @ May 23 2008, 04:02 AM) [snapback]619569[/snapback]
i saw this site with a 45 listed as aero-metric... ??????????? hmm1.gif

http://www.1001pens.com/ProdDesc.asp?cat=-1&id=pn20898

fake??

No, just an ignorant seller.

The difference between ignorance and stupidity is that ignorance can be cured. smile.gif

(Edited to add the following)

In the hopes of curing some of that ignorance, I present here a photo of six Parker converters, from oldest (top) to newest (bottom). I know this doesn't include the first Parkr-Eversharp converter, which was a piston model, but I don't have one of those.



The nice thing about the newest piston version is that it's narrower than its predecessor. It'll go into the 180 and the Classic, into which the older one was too fat to fit. The first squeezie won't go into these pens, either, but the second and third will. Note: none of these is Aero-metric. There is no such thing as an Aero-metric converter despite the fact that many people have come to equate any squeeze filler with the word "aerometric." I mean, come now, folks, would you call this Waterman's Ideal Nº 12SF an aerometric filler?





Sorry, I'll get down off my soapbox now. smile.gif
bluemoon
45's are really excellent writer at reasonable price. Mr Binder has explained it all, and from personal experience
for 10-20$ it is more than worth the money. If you can find a flighter with a gold nib, it will be the best. The English
45's are still available in the market. But if you opt for it, one piece of info... The nibs tend to be much broad than
usual... a new 45 fine is almost equivalent to a '51' broad.
jakespeed
I thought this nib was a little broad. My 45 has a F gold nib, but writes pretty wide. I wasn't sure if it was me, or if the nibs just run wide.
Romagno
You know, I think I'll ink one of my 45's next week when I return to work from the long weekend. This thread has reminded me of what a nice pen the 45 is...
lovemy51
QUOTE(Richard @ May 23 2008, 05:48 AM) [snapback]619710[/snapback]
No, just an ignorant seller.

The difference between ignorance and stupidity is that ignorance can be cured. smile.gif


Sorry, I'll get down off my soapbox now. smile.gif


OK, i'm cured!! embarrassed_smile.gif
morleron
QUOTE(belfast-popeye @ May 22 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]619040[/snapback]
Richard has got it right read his 45 profile. 45's were only c/c filled. As far as value you can pick up a standard colour/lust cap for as little as $10, premiums are rarer colours, olive, orange, yellow, turq, rage red. Then there are the higher line models with the gold filled caps, or the insignia 45 and the coronets in rarer colours blue, green, red and of course the etched harlequins...sheild and circlet. To check out what your nib is made from unscrew from the section and with your finger and thumb push back the black collar to reveal the full nib. All sorts of nibs were made in all widths, most premium are the 10/12/14ct gold stubs, obliques.


Is that true of English 45s? The reason that I ask is that I recently bought a Parker that was made in England (it came from an English seller on eBay), and appears to be a Model 45 - at least to my inexperienced eyes. However, mine has the built-in Aeromatic filler, though it will detach from the section, so I suppose it might be considered to be simply a converter. As I'm fairly new to the world of vintage pens my identification of the model may be incorrect as I'm basing it on pictures that I've seen on a couple of different sites that are devoted to Parker pens. Also, my Parker has gold-plated trim with a chrome cap, if that helps any with the identification.

Later,
Ron
P.S. The pen writes very nicely, though it is a bit on the light side for my taste.
Shamouti
QUOTE(tonyD @ May 22 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]618680[/snapback]
Hi all,

I picked up 5 Stainless GT Parker 45 Fountain pens. Added to collection and a couple to sell.

What are the panel's opinion on the 45s ?

What is a good price for these ?

Thanks

Yes, you own a great pen!

I first purchased my Parker 45 a long time ago in Late 99. It's a demonstrator fountain pen and immediately after filling the pen with ink, I loved it.

The 45 was one of Parker's best innovations and anyone that owns one is a lucky person. The availability of nibs, the ease of exchange and variety of barrel materials, colors and boxes; no wonder the 45 is a terrific pen. Best of all about the 45 is price, smoothness of the nib, durability, and reliability. You really can't beat it unless it's maybe a Pelikan or a Parker 75 with interchangeable nibs.

A lot of us know a good pen when we try one, and if you are selling them, then you'll have some very happy customers.

Shamouti
Nihontochicken
Yup, yup.

(Translation: the Parker 45 is indeed a great pen and is the best bang-for-the-buck on Fleabay in terms of writing capability.)

Too bad it isn't as sexy looking as the 51.
J English Smith
I especially like the nib look on a 45, it's a perfect style point for the time of its design (1958 or so). And of course, the screw out nibs are so practical and make it so easy to clean and swap nibs too.

I think the posted look of a 45 is quite sexy in the ratio between the barrel and the cap. The cap swallows up more of the barrel of the pen than you expect, creating a very dynamic look and great balance to boot.

51s still king but the 45 is definitely a strong runner up!
theblackpen
Does a NOS 14k Parker 45 nib fit in a new Parker 45?
Thank you!
Regards,
MrStuff
QUOTE(belfast-popeye @ May 22 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]619040[/snapback]
To check out what your nib is made from unscrew from the section and with your finger and thumb push back the black collar to reveal the full nib. All sorts of nibs were made in all widths, most premium are the 10/12/14ct gold stubs, obliques.


Having done this for the first time tonight, my nib just says PARKER at the base, with no indication of a gold "weight". Presumably this means it is just plated steel?

Thanks,
Mark.
MrStuff
QUOTE(vermiculus @ May 23 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]619570[/snapback]
Oh. I was jotting a shopping list with my first vintage pen, a 45, as I read this... and had a go. I thought that thing was fixed in place! I was a bit stunned to have the pen in five bits instead of four. unsure.gif

Hmm, count again - mine rapidly fell into six pieces (the nib comes away from the feed easily=> body, cap, section, nib, feed, hood) Fortunately it's all keyed so will only go back together with everything aligned.
Nicholas
Hi all,


my mother presented me with Parker 45 (first оn http://parker.su/parker_45.htm). I really like it, but pen has a small issue: during the writing the left tile of nib raise a bit (a bit smile.gif ) over the right tile with snapping sound. sad.gif
I'm very sad because this small issue makes writing uncomfortable.
Pen was bought in quite good stationery shop.

What should i do? Change pen in shop? Help
John Danza
QUOTE(Nicholas @ Jun 23 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]648964[/snapback]
What should i do? Change pen in shop? Help


The nib unit unscrews and can easily be replaced. You should contact Parker Customer Service to buy a new unit.
Ernst Bitterman
I find myself in the extremely rare position of being able to add something to one of Richard's posts, being this previous number:

QUOTE(Richard @ May 23 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]619710[/snapback]
In the hopes of curing some of that ignorance, I present here a photo of six Parker converters, from oldest (top) to newest (bottom). I know this doesn't include the first Parker-Eversharp converter, which was a piston model, but I don't have one of those.



Roll up and apply an eye to the Parker-Eversharp converter:



The piston-shaft is as off-white as it appears, while the little surface-tension ball is actually clear and just reflecting back the flash.
PauloC
Here is my Parker 45 collection:

The black:
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The grey:
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The blue:
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The green:
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The red and orange:
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The desk pens:
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Flighter:
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Gold:
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TX and Coronet
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And not Parker - Kullock and one Crest resembling the black coronet:
Click to view attachment

It's not a very complete collection... yet! I'd like to know if there were made any desk P45 FP in other colors than black...

I have many other questions, but I'll leave here for now only this one.


Sorry for the not so good pictures but I'm still working on the lighting of the pens pictures.

Paulo
Aysedasi
I picked up an all blue, chrome trim 45 last week for £4. Medium nib. Cleaned it up and it looks beautiful and writes just as well. In my opinion, these are seriously underrated pens!
tawanda
Im new to fountain pens so my opinion is not very weighty, Im afraid, but I'd just like to add my thoughts.
I love P45s. They are great for lefties like me, have a very forgiving sweet spot, and write forever. Ive just written nine pages of fiction in a Moleskine extra large soft notebook on one fill of my converter (second from bottom in Richard's picture) and I've still not run out.
They have a lovely slim design, very 50's look about them, and are perfect for a lady's hand (mine is particularly small, and I find larger pens difficult to wield about). Yet the weight/balance is perfect, especially when posted.
I now have four, not sure of the models, but if I link them to Paulo's pics could someone help me out in identifying them?
On the 'blue page' I have the first on the left (this one has the oldest converter on Richard's photo) and the third on the left.
On the red page I have the third from the right ( and also the matching propelling pencil to that one)
On the grey page I have one similar to the right hand one but my barrel is a greyish aquamarine (I think its officially called navy grey). Perhaps its just the photo.
Finally I am awaiting my first flighter model courtesy of Ayse (thanks a bunch) but I have no idea which model it is yet.

I am very envious of Paulo's collection and think it will be a lonfgtime before mine reaches those proportions, but I shall keep my eyes open, particulary for an olive and an orange, they look yummy!

Cheers all,
Tawanda
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