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KCat
She's a vibrant rich orange with classy gold plated accents that complement her beauty rather than detracting from it. Her MF nib glides on the page.

Sigh - my Orange Sapporo Sweetheart.

I will, however, refrain from posting a review for a while (or photos) because this is the first blush of infatuation.

I don't know why she's a she, she just is.

I'm afraid I may be becoming addicted to Sailor pens.
Phthalo
Yes, I collected mine yesterday, and the orange resin is quite glorious! My Fine nib is excellent, too.

You're discovering the reason why I own like ten Pro Gears... tongue.gif
Maja
QUOTE(KCat @ May 16 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]613501[/snapback]
She's a vibrant rich orange with classy gold plated accents that complement her beauty rather than detracting from it. Her MF nib glides on the page.

Sigh - my Orange Sapporo Sweetheart.

I will, however, refrain from posting a review for a while (or photos) because this is the first blush of infatuation.

I don't know why she's a she, she just is.

I'm afraid I may be becoming addicted to Sailor pens.


Your Pelikan M400 White Tortoise (a/k/a "Honey") is going to be verrrry jealous, KCat! ohmy.gif
Better hide the little orange sweetheart until things settle down... wink.gif

P.S. I love orange pens, too.
Margana
Only time will tell whether it is love or just infatuation. I'm betting on the former. wink.gif
rroossinck
I'm in lust with my rhodium and black 1911. It's one of those steamy, torrid numbers...smile.gif

(Laura, I forgot to tell you...I got my 1911!)
saintsimon
Congrats, Kcat, from a fellow MF nib lover (Spring Blue edition Sapporo, here). smile.gif

Is it the same orange colour as on the Pro Gear Colors edtion? (pic from Mottishaw's site)

Phthalo
Same colour orange, but ours have the orange end-cap, not black. The section is still black and they have gold trim! Great pen.
el3ssar
QUOTE(Phthalo @ May 17 2008, 05:26 AM) [snapback]613537[/snapback]
You're discovering the reason why I own like ten Pro Gears... tongue.gif



Would you mind to give me one or two ? You won't miss them, and I'll take good care of them ! biggrin.gif
el3ssar
BTW, a writing sample of your MF nib will me more than welcome here : http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=58004

Thanks ! smile.gif
mucephei
Glad to read that they don't have a black end-cap (unlike the photo). I prefer a solid colour throughout the pen.
KCat
QUOTE(Maja @ May 17 2008, 12:51 AM) [snapback]613569[/snapback]
Your Pelikan M400 White Tortoise (a/k/a "Honey") is going to be verrrry jealous, KCat! ohmy.gif
Better hide the little orange sweetheart until things settle down... wink.gif

P.S. I love orange pens, too.


Oh dear. Thanks for the heads-up, Maja. I think I put it in the pen case right next to Honey. Best run and make sure they haven't fought overnight.
Bananafish
Yippee! bunny01.gif Thanks for sharing the excitement, KCat. Have you decided what color ink to use?
Bananafish
QUOTE(Phthalo @ May 16 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]613537[/snapback]
You're discovering the reason why I own like ten Pro Gears... tongue.gif



Phthalo, you're my new best friend biggrin.gif
Sonnet
My yellow Pro Gear has arrived at work but I was out of the office yesterday (alumni weekend so I was across campus). Can't wait until Monday when I can finally get my hands on it drool.gif
Taki
Congrats on your orange Sapporo sm_cat.gif I'm still trying to resist, but MF nib sounds very tempting..... wallbash.gif
Phthalo
Resistance truly is futile... for the price, what a fantastic little pen! biggrin.gif

I'm amazed at the price of those full-size Pro Gear Colors, though... way high! ohmy.gif
KCat
At the moment I have Diamine Orange in it. It is a perfect match to the pen but may be too light an ink for an MF nib. Di Orange (and most oranges) may be better suited to broader nibs. I may be forced to use a red-orange for more contrast. Going to write out the D. Orange first before I try something else. It's a beautiful, true orange.

The MF I have is slightly broader than my F nibs. To my eye that translates as MF=Western XF) so it's still a nice fine line but doesn't have the slight tooth that the F nibs have. It's definitely an MF and not an M by any stretch. DIfferent papers yield different lines. Will show y'all when I get some comparisons done.
Sharkle
QUOTE(Phthalo @ May 17 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]614388[/snapback]
I'm amazed at the price of those full-size Pro Gear Colors, though... way high! ohmy.gif


The price is painful for me as well, and I'm also wondering if the section might be a little to wide. On the other hand, those colors were made for me, and with silver trim to boot! I've already bugged Sonnet for a review in the future of her yellow model. All three colors appeal to me. Hopefully these will show up at the D.C. pen show this August and I can see for myself what I think. I love the Sapporo colors, but I really like the black accents on the Pro Gear and also the slightly bigger size. Oh well, time will tell. Beautiful orange pen, Kcat; I love orange, and yellow, and ivory. . . I am becoming a Japanese pen addict, and I don't have a Sailor yet!

el3ssar
QUOTE(Phthalo @ May 18 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]614388[/snapback]
Resistance truly is futile... for the price, what a fantastic little pen! biggrin.gif

I'm amazed at the price of those full-size Pro Gear Colors, though... way high! ohmy.gif


At the Pear Tree Pen shop, the price tag is the same for black or colored Pro Gears... It's not the best price around, but no differences between colors...
KCat
I've switched to a 2:1 Diamine Vermillion:Diamine Orange - The orange looked good but a little too low contrast. I've done some comparisons all in the same pen and will scan and post in the next day or so. The MF nib is just too fine to show off the Diamine Orange fully. D. Orange needs a broad, wet nib. But, you'll see more on that later.

After I've gotten through the current fill, I'll fill the pen with one of the inks in my Sapporo F's and show the line width differences.

TechWriter
QUOTE(KCat @ May 18 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]615427[/snapback]
I've switched to a 2:1 Diamine Vermillion:Diamine Orange - The orange looked good but a little too low contrast. I've done some comparisons all in the same pen and will scan and post in the next day or so. The MF nib is just too fine to show off the Diamine Orange fully. D. Orange needs a broad, wet nib. But, you'll see more on that later.

After I've gotten through the current fill, I'll fill the pen with one of the inks in my Sapporo F's and show the line width differences.

Hi,

I'm using Diamine Steel Blue (looks teal) in mine: I have the Orange GT also. It's a great user pen, smooth, lite, high quality nib, and attractive. Although I do not know the sales numbers for this pen, my impression is that Sailor Sapporo's marketing hit the sweet spot in the fountain pen audience. cloud9.gif

Regards
KCat
There have been a couple of reviews/comparisons of the Sapporo already so I don't think a review is in order at this time. Instead, now that I've had time to use the pen a little more and perform several cleanings for ink changes, I have just a few comments to make.

I am still in love with the pen. All the positive things said about this pen line still hold true.

The MF nib is a delight - smooth and fine with no hint of tooth. Compared to other Sailor nibs, it's truly, IMO, a middle ground of their fines and their mediums. smile.gif Compared to Western nibs, it's what I would call an XF. I've noted in my comments on the Sapporo Mini F that the F writes much like an XXF to my eye. If you look at my scan you can see a comparison between Richard's XXXF, the Sailor F, the Sailor MF, and a WM F. Ink would make a difference there probably. But using the same ink in all pens would shift them all in the same direction (a little wider if I went with Diamine perhaps.)

Here is the link to that image - I forgot to put it in and appreciate superbleu reminding me.
http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...st&p=615964

The color is what drew me to the pen in addition to the fact that I love this pen design and had excellent OOTB experiences with the Sapporo Mini. It is a beautiful vibrant orange. Not metallic but a nice high polish. To my eye it's a true orange and not the "orange" of many vintage pens that look pretty much red to me. However, it definitely leans red v. leaning toward gold. I think the GT furniture suits it well. I've seen the silver and it is nice too but the gold seems to let the pen color take center stage.

All those other things - balance, quality of craftsmanship, size, section diameter (about M200 size) have been discussed by others and IMO are all 5/5.

Still, a couple of issues have presented themselves that I don't care for. They aren't enough to discourage me from buying another Sapporo. Just enough that since I was so infatuated that first day, I believe should be mentioned to temper my "Oh, purdy purdy purdy. Perfect perfect perfect." reaction. smile.gif

Small Gripe 1) it seems to take forever to unscrew the section to get to the converter. This is true on the minis but I hadn't noticed because I use carts (with those tiny fine nibs) and don't have to refill often. Because I was doing rapid ink changes the other day, it quickly became annoying. Finding the perfect ink and sticking with it will reduce that annoyance.

Small Gripe 2) the converter. The "base" of it wants to unscrew when I am trying to turn the piston CCW (preparing to draw ink). It has come undone on a couple of occasions. I've never used a Sailor converter so I don't know if this is typical or not. It has good capacity so I'm not sure if I'll put up with this or go to cartridges. Anyone with familiarity with the Sailor converter and this issue feel free to comment. I don't want to glue it, in the long run, being able to take it apart might be a good thing (cleaning, greasing) but i do wish it would stay together while I'm filling.

I'm adding a picture though it's not very good. It was very difficult to balance the gold furniture color with the color of the inks and pen. I tried to get it as close as possible to show why I went with a particular ink combination for the time being. smile.gif (1:1 Diamine Vermillion & Diamine Orange).

el3ssar
Very nice KCat ! This orange is gorgeous, unfortunately I don't like gold furnishing... BUT, coz there is a but, the Spring Blue comes with silver trim and the color is amazing too. So I'm pretty sure I'll get one soon ! And the MF niiiiiiiiiib cloud9.gif I want it !

Diamine orange looks perfect but I can understand it's a bit light and flashy for regular use, so your 2:1 mix seems to match the pen and to behave nicely. Well done !

Congratulation for this beautiful Sapporo, and I hope you're problem will be fixed soon smile.gif
limesally
Thank you for the writing sample....I think! Sigh....for the last while I'd been thinking, "I'd love a nib just a tad wider than my Sapporo F" and "this 1911M medium is just a touch too wide". These MF pens are very very hard to resist! rolleyes.gif
KCat
QUOTE(limesally @ May 21 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]617759[/snapback]
These MF pens are very very hard to resist! rolleyes.gif


hee hee... snicker.

Now remember, this is a family board.

I'm really glad I tried it. I think I'd have found a medium boring - "ho hum, another medium that looks like a western fine." and I have the two fines already so really it worked out well that the MF was the standard from this seller.
Taki
Those limited spring color ones came only in MF in Japan, too wink.gif

I like the 2:1 mix of Orange and Vermillion smile.gif
Sonnet
[imitates a baby's whine] Ehh! Ehh! Sonnet wants!!

Oh wait-- I have my yellow Pro Gear cool.gif Nuts to that, suckers!! tongue.gif


Ahem...sorry, I don't know where that came from. I'll behave now.
Bananafish
Dayum, I was satisfied with PR Tangerine Orange until I saw this Diamine Orange. They look so sweet together I'd to rush out and grab a bottle. I blame KCat for cluttering my cabinet with more ink. I've never tried mixing inks before, but it seems more and more like a good idea.

KCat - agreed with your small gripes; all of my Sailor sections also seem to take forever to unscrew. I also find the base of Sailor converters come loose easily. Thanks for showing the comparison. sm_cat.gif
KCat
QUOTE(Bananafish @ May 29 2008, 02:58 AM) [snapback]625363[/snapback]
Dayum, I was satisfied with PR Tangerine Orange until I saw this Diamine Orange. They look so sweet together I'd to rush out and grab a bottle. I blame KCat for cluttering my cabinet with more ink. I've never tried mixing inks before, but it seems more and more like a good idea.


many do (blame me) - one of these days that darn "KCat's system" thing will be removed from Inky Thoughts. FWIW, it wasn't my idea to call it that!

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KCat - agreed with your small gripes; all of my Sailor sections also seem to take forever to unscrew. I also find the base of Sailor converters come loose easily. Thanks for showing the comparison. sm_cat.gif


I've been so addicted to using this pen (sorry to my snailees, you'll be seeing a lot of orange in the next couple of days) that I had to refill yesterday and almost pulled the end of that darn converter right off.

ink - well, I'll save that for inky thoughts but basically I got rid of 7 bottles the other day - and just ordered 6 more. sigh... headsmack.gif
Taki
I'm tempted to fill my orange pen (not Sapporo...I wish biggrin.gif) with PR Ebony Green unsure.gif
KCat
QUOTE(Taki @ May 29 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]625922[/snapback]
I'm tempted to fill my orange pen (not Sapporo...I wish biggrin.gif) with PR Ebony Green unsure.gif


well, one could think of it as a lovely orange fall leave lying on dark grass.

tongue.gif

I have PR Plum in my Ivory Prera! Sometimes contrast is a good thing.
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