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The only MB's I have that flow perfectly are the 146 from 1986 and the Proust and this Fitz. Why the Proust and Fitz, they have been worked on by NibMeisters.
3 out of 9 write well and out of these 2 were attended by nibmeisters?! Wow, talk about low figures. I expected MB to have QC issues, but this lowers my expectations a litlle further, I'm afraid. No wonder Richard has a queue over 5 months long and let's not talk about John Mottishaw's.
Out of my MBs (pictured below in with far poorer photography skills and instruments than yours):

4 out of 8 fountain pens performed flawlessly with their stock nibs. These are
Proust M nib.
Charlemagne M nib.
Dumas M nib.
Poe B nib (they should market it as stub).
The other 4 were another story altogether.
The skippy M Fitz ended up writing heavenly after a OB nib exchange
The scratchy overflowing M Woolf turned out well after a OM nib exchange
The M Dostoevsky was a disaster (albeit only $450 on Ebay) that Greg Minuskin worked into a wonderful stub.
The M Christie was a boring Sheaffer Nononsense kind of M, which was changed into a starved OBB by MB. A second trip to MB did not improve the ink flow, at which point I realised their 146 feed is probably unable to provide ink for a OBB, so I've sent it to John Mottishaw which has grinded it into a masterpiece sharp and smooth OM. I will post a writing sample if I get a chance later.
Now If I pause and take into account other MBs in my family, hey you know what, the "performing-well-out-of-box" figure goes down closer to 33%. Have you had a chance to try the Fitz and Proust before you sent them to the nibmeisters? I would also have another question and I can't seem to phrase it less harshly right now, so my apologies in advance, but what in the world is preventing you from having those beeeeeeeeautiful pens tweaked or fixed, so that they write as well as they look?
PS I wouldn't want to start here an off-topic flame campaign against MB (we know the others are no better). I was a just bit startled by your ink flow issues and I can't help but think that we really must be nuts about these pens to be able to enjoy them regardless of their (initial) shortcomings.
PPS I'm glad your Fitz posts securely.
No flame war at all as you raise a really valid point - I also think I mispoke and wasn't really accurate in my note. So, let me try again.....
I happen to like a pretty fine line. Not quite needlepoint, but I print and it ends up a pretty small font size. I have a lot of trouble writing with much above a Western Fine. I also travel quite a bit, so while I like a pen with heft, I do not take the really heavy pens in my collection with me. As a result, they tend not to be in my rotation. That being said -
1. The Pompadour actually flows very, very well and the nib is as fine as any I have used. It is a medium, though. Also, the pen is very, very heavy. As a result, it is just eye candy for me right now. I love it, but I have gotten a lot of snide comments (in another forum I was chastised for buying a "femine" pen). If you ever see it in person you will appreciate the craftmanship.
2. The Verne also works pretty well. Occassionally it does skip, but nothing terrible, just not perfect. It is also a very heavy pen.
3. The Dostoevsky was bought "pre-owned" and actually works quite well. I don't have a good reason why I do not use it more. I have close to 60 pens and just for some reason haven't used it in a while. I bought it from Bert Heiserman at Pen Haven and one of the perks is that he tweaks nibs to just the way you want them. So, this one too has been under the influence of a NibMester.
4. The Proust I also bought "pre-owned" and it had been worked on by John Mottishaw before I bought it.
5. The Czar Nikolai is a medium and just too fat a line for me. I haven't used it much because of this so I can't really speak to it much.
6. I was mistaken when I forgot to state the Faulkner writes flawlessly right out of the box and I do use it quite a bit. It's looks were a bit controversial when it came out, but it has grown on me and I actually really like it quite a bit.
7. I have had the 146 and the Doue a long time and just haven't worked them back into my rotation. Nothing really wrong with them though.
As for why I haven't had the pens reground - well you raise a sore point with me. I actually sent them all to Greg Minuskin to have this done and I won't say anything about Greg. Just that the transaction didn't go as planned. Nothing bad, we just didn't see eye to eye and we parted ways. With Richard and John I would send the pens to them, it's just that I don't really want to wait as long as they take. I have had good luck with both of them, I just have been shy to pull the trigger.
I consider myself a big MB fan. I love the way they look and largely I have been satisfied. To me FP's all have quirks and idiosyncracies. Putting up with them is part of collecting. I will say this, what flaws are perceived with the MB's is nothing like the problems I have had with the Italian pens.I have 3 Omas pens and only 1 works properly. My 360 was worked on by a nibmeister and it still doesn't work right. Don't get me started on my cartridge ogivia - that's the worst pen I have ever, ever owned.
Lately I have been on a vintage kick and picked up a number of Parkers and Sheaffers. In terms of performance the vintage ones are workig flawlessly and write with much more character than the newer ones (IMHO).
However, I also am starting to believe that the best performing pens right out of the box are the Japanese. My Namiki's, Nakaya and Sailors all work flawlessly. I have never, ever had a single issue with any of these. They are all gems. In fact, yesterday I ordered another Sailor that will be part of my regular rotation. I am sure it will be just as perfect as the green mosaic I have been using.
Don't give up on MB, though. They are stunning pens and I wouldn't sell or trade any of them.
Andy W.