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JFT
Hello,

After reading this forum for a while I finally took the dive and ordered my first Pelikan: a Grand Place happyberet.gif The last thread where one was displayed was just too much tongue.gif Especially knowing that they are getting hard to find!

Now one question... I've tried M400, M800 and M1000 in M, F and EF but never in broad nib. Today when I ordered the pen I asked to try a broad nib but the only they had was... weird! Almost like a stub, but a toothy one! The manager came and examine the nib and concluded that the nib was not normal, instead of a round tip it was halfway between a stub and a broad!

What's the relation? Well the only Grand Place they could order was with a broad nib.

So here's the question: are Pelikan B nib "round"? And as smooth as their M nib? This "weird" nib that I tried had to be started with moderate pressure; just touching the paper was not enough. All the FP I tried so far I never had to apply any pressure to initiate the ink flow. Is this regular of B Pelikan nib?

Thank you.

P.S. Can't wait to get that pen!
piembi
Pelikan broad nibs are like the Pelikan medium nibs but broader. Meaning, that there should not be a difference except the line width.

I have several medium and broad nibs (including oblique medium and broad nibs) and there is no significant difference in the way they behave. Touching the paper with minimum pressure should be enough to lay a nice wet line onto the paper. And non-oblique nibs are round.

However, there are differences between the nibs.
Some weeks ago I bought a Pelikan 605 that was for sale. I tested the display pen and was very pleased with the nib. The sales person wanted to sell me another, brand new pen. The nib of this pen was stiff like a nail so I asked her to screw the nib of the display pen into the pen she is selling to me.
There was nothing wrong with the other nib though. It was simply too stiff for my taste.
JFT
QUOTE(piembi @ Apr 14 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]577329[/snapback]
Pelikan broad nibs are like the Pelikan medium nibs but broader. Meaning, that there should not be a difference except the line width.

I have several medium and broad nibs (including oblique medium and broad nibs) and there is no significant difference in the way they behave. Touching the paper with minimum pressure should be enough to lay a nice wet line onto the paper. And non-oblique nibs are round.

However, there are differences between the nibs.
Some weeks ago I bought a Pelikan 605 that was for sale. I tested the display pen and was very pleased with the nib. The sales person wanted to sell me another, brand new pen. The nib of this pen was stiff like a nail so I asked her to screw the nib of the display pen into the pen she is selling to me.
There was nothing wrong with the other nib though. It was simply too stiff for my taste.


Thank you for the info, I'm surprised that actually "any" pressure is required. I was under the impression Pelikan were quite wet and the M800, M400 and M1000 (M, F and EF nibs) I tried required no pressure altough it was dip test. Neither my Patrician nor my Van Gogh nor even my old Elysee needed any pressure to initiate flow. I was wondering because I write with a very light hand.

P.S. 123 views and one response! I thought Pelikan broad nib where more frequently used!
encephalartos
QUOTE(JFT @ Apr 14 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]578016[/snapback]
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Thank you for the info, I'm surprised that actually "any" pressure is required. I was under the impression Pelikan were quite wet and the M800, M400 and M1000 (M, F and EF nibs) I tried required no pressure altough it was dip test. Neither my Patrician nor my Van Gogh nor even my old Elysee needed any pressure to initiate flow. I was wondering because I write with a very light hand.

P.S. 123 views and one response! I thought Pelikan broad nib where more frequently used!


I have broad, medium, fine, extra fine, and Mottishaw cursive italic Pelikan nibs. I don't recall
any pressure needed. The broad are wider, that is all. Since they are European nibs, you will
find that their extra fine is broader than a Japanese extra fine (e.g. Sailor 1911).
Matt
All my Pelikan nibs are wet, smooth, and require little pressure. Mos tof my broad nibs have an stub-like quality to them. There is some nice line variation—wider on the downstroke, narrower on the side-stroke. However, I do have one palted steel broad nib that is very round, without much character. I prefer the stub-like broad nibs.

Matt C.
piembi
QUOTE(JFT @ Apr 15 2008, 02:27 AM) [snapback]578016[/snapback]
Thank you for the info, I'm surprised that actually "any" pressure is required. I was under the impression Pelikan were quite wet and the M800, M400 and M1000 (M, F and EF nibs) I tried required no pressure altough it was dip test. Neither my Patrician nor my Van Gogh nor even my old Elysee needed any pressure to initiate flow. I was wondering because I write with a very light hand.

P.S. 123 views and one response! I thought Pelikan broad nib where more frequently used!


Minimum or any pressure - not much difference between it. I have Pelikan nibs that write a very wet line without any pressure and I have nibs that require a little bit more because they are somewhat drier. There are slight differences between the nibs. They are individuals, not clones wink.gif

I have several vintage Pelikan nibs and applying some pressure gives you an interesting line variation because they have some flex. Although they write nicely without any pressure I am sometimes tempted to see what they can do with some pressure ....
JFT
QUOTE(Matt @ Apr 15 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]578737[/snapback]
All my Pelikan nibs are wet, smooth, and require little pressure. Mos tof my broad nibs have an stub-like quality to them. There is some nice line variation—wider on the downstroke, narrower on the side-stroke. However, I do have one palted steel broad nib that is very round, without much character. I prefer the stub-like broad nibs.

Matt C.


Almost like stub? I guess I'm in for a surprise when I receive my pen tongue.gif

Thanks for the info I gather that their is indeed very large variation in their broad nibs, more than I expected anyway eureka.gif
JFT
QUOTE(piembi @ Apr 15 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]578974[/snapback]
Minimum or any pressure - not much difference between it. I have Pelikan nibs that write a very wet line without any pressure and I have nibs that require a little bit more because they are somewhat drier. There are slight differences between the nibs. They are individuals, not clones wink.gif

I have several vintage Pelikan nibs and applying some pressure gives you an interesting line variation because they have some flex. Although they write nicely without any pressure I am sometimes tempted to see what they can do with some pressure ....


True enough, but the only pressure on my nibs when I write is mostly the pen's own weight hence why I was emphasizing the question smile.gif I'd love to see som springiness but I am not expecting any in a broad nib (not that I have experience with any tongue.gif).

Thanks again for the info smile.gif
JFT
QUOTE(encephalartos @ Apr 14 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]578223[/snapback]
I have broad, medium, fine, extra fine, and Mottishaw cursive italic Pelikan nibs. I don't recall
any pressure needed. The broad are wider, that is all. Since they are European nibs, you will
find that their extra fine is broader than a Japanese extra fine (e.g. Sailor 1911).


thumbup.gif What you described is what I was hoping for! Hopefully that's what I'll get with the variability that has been mentionned so far!

Thanks
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