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Betty
I think I just realized something on my Pelikan M200 nib. The ink colors tend to be much lighter on that pen than on the other pens I have.

For example,
Noodler's Black came out a bit greyish looking on the Pelikan but a nice intense black on my Hero 100

Tarzanite came out so pretty on the Pelikan but looks a a dark purple on other pens.

Waterman Florida Blue came out so a very light watercolor blue on the Pelikan but cames out in a very pretty blue on my Waterman Hemisphere.

Is this usually the case with Pelikan nibs?
Sidney
I find their flow to be medium, not wet. I have a M805 w/ medium nib and a M605 w/ medium nib. I do have a M800 that has a nice wet nib though and an M200 with a wet Binder stub.
Dillo
Hi,

They are not as wet, but do have a nice flow in my opinion.

Dillon
southpaw
QUOTE (Betty @ Dec 13 2005, 05:31 AM)
I think I just realized something on my Pelikan M200 nib. The ink colors tend to be much lighter on that pen than on the other pens I have.

For example,
Noodler's Black came out a bit greyish looking on the Pelikan but a nice intense black on my Hero 100

Tarzanite came out so pretty on the Pelikan but looks a a dark purple on other pens.

Waterman Florida Blue came out so a very light watercolor blue on the Pelikan but cames out in a very pretty blue on my Waterman Hemisphere.

Is this usually the case with Pelikan nibs?

Sounds like you might have a rather dry-writing nib. Perhaps you can adjust it or have a nibmeister adjust it for you. Pelikan's tend to be medium as far as wetness is concerned in my limited experience with the brand.
Stylo
QUOTE (Betty @ Dec 13 2005, 05:31 AM)
I think I just realized something on my Pelikan M200 nib. The ink colors tend to be much lighter on that pen than on the other pens I have.

I think inks look a little lighter coming out of my M200 as well. Perhaps nibmeisters know the proper terms, but I think we use the term wet writer to mean too many different things.

In my view, there is a distinction to be made between ease of flow and quantity of flow. I feel that ink flows very easily out of my M200, but in reastrained quantity. On the other hand, there are some pens that pile on the ink, but that skip freqently. Think of it like the difference between a very thin line of water coming out of a nearly closed faucet versus big blobs of honey coming out from one of those squeezable dispensers laugh.gif
Betty
Glad I'm not the only one with light colors from Pelikan. To reiterate what Stylo said, the ink comes out very easily, but the color is just not as dark.

I think I might have gotten spoiled by how saturated ink comes out of the Parker 51s and Hero 329s. I like it to look saturated. Is there a way to adjust this?
woodwindmaster06
I think if your really want a juicy nib you can just increase the flow. I am no expert on this but flossing the nib would probably work. Refer to the repair section for this, it definitly works I have used it on other pens, not my pelikan though.

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Ann Finley
QUOTE (Betty @ Dec 13 2005, 07:31 AM)
I think I just realized something on my Pelikan M200 nib.  The ink colors tend to be much lighter on that pen than on the other pens I have.
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Waterman Florida Blue came out so a very light watercolor blue on the Pelikan but cames out in a very pretty blue on my Waterman Hemisphere.

Is this usually the case with Pelikan nibs?

Betty, I just put Waterman Florida Blue in a Pelikan M200 with a fine nib a couple of days ago. It looks prettier than I've ever seen Florida Blue look--not faded and not dark blue, but a bright blue.

I think it depends on the particular nib. (Of course paper plays a part, too, and I've been writing on Rhodia, mostly, this week.)

I'd try Tim's suggestion about flossing the nib.

Best, Ann
Armchop
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I have the same problem as Betty sad.gif

I have used Waterman Blue-Black in a Parker Sonnet with Medium nib for the past eight years. It is a lovely dark blue wet line!

However, when I look at all osts or reviews including the Waterman everyone else's scans are much less saturated and very washed out. I think the common factor is the Parker. I think the Waterman really is the colour everyone else gets and not with the Pelikan. I have "hibernated" what may be perfectly good Carene, Expert and a Townsend becuase I thought they were poor compared with my Sonnet wallbash.gif wallbash.gif wallbash.gif wallbash.gif wallbash.gif wallbash.gif wallbash.gif wallbash.gif wallbash.gif wallbash.gif wallbash.gif wallbash.gif wallbash.gif

Now I think it is actually the ink that's the problem. I have a Pelikan with some Private Reserve Sherwood Green and it looks great.

So now I've sent away for some Private Reserve Midnight Blues to see how that goes.
When it arives I'll let you all know.

Fingers crossed. :bunny1:

Armchop
KCat
most of mine are medium-to-wet. My two most recent acquisitions (both Place series) are very wet writers and my Black Magic Blue just looks black with the slightest tint of blue. DC Blue is dark - almost reminiscent of Levenger Cobalt instead of the bright blue I recall from when I had it in my 400.

I've had one dry-writing 200 - the original nib on my OS grey. So it really can't be figured into the mix.
Phthalo
I find Pelikan flow to be generous, but the larger amount of tipping seems to disperse the ink into a more faded line - if that makes any sense.

My Sailor XF, has a *tiny* tipping ball, and is a wet writer - I get a very thin but saturated line, which is lovely. My Pelikan EF's had a bigger tipping ball with kind of 'thinned' sides, so there was a lot of tipping for the ink to spread around on, which made what ended up on the paper a bit weak.

That kind of makes sense... maybe a pro can explain better?
chemgeek
Both my Pelikans (M200 and M600 fines) are wet, sloppy, dark writers. The 200 is a little wetter than my 600. American Blue and Midnight Blues from either pen are just as dark as for a Sailor 1911M or Namiki Falcon medium.

Cheers.
KCat
QUOTE(Phthalo @ Feb 1 2007, 07:39 PM)
That kind of makes sense... maybe a pro can explain better?

makes complete sense. I think you explained it just fine. Though the flow on my two "places" overwhelms the concept completely. wink.gif
DavidM1
I love the lighter shade on my 805. The ink is wonderfully even and the flow never feels dry. I have found I prefer Pel Royal Blue to Florida Blue. The Waterman ink seems to add some lubrication that isn't needed, whereas the Pel ink seems just right.
Phthalo
QUOTE(KCat @ Feb 3 2007, 04:15 AM)
makes complete sense.  I think you explained it just fine. Though the flow on my two "places" overwhelms the concept completely.  wink.gif

Hehe - glad it made sense!

I know, it will be different for different pens, and my little scenario actually only happened with my EF's, because I had a M300 F which was normal - a wet line with no fade.

(But now Richard has all my Pelikan's and soon I will have XXXF's and 0.3mm Stubs and Cursive Italics instead! This is exciting - I haven't touched that M300 for like a year, plus it's getting a 0.3mm Crisp Italic... delicious!)
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