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davyr
LEFT HAND RADIOGRAPHS 12/11/05 at 19:25 hrs:

PATIENT: davyr
HISTORY: 36 y/o m with h/o ocd and hankering for fountain pens
INDICATION: r/o anything





TECHNIQUE: AP, lateral, and oblique views of the left hand submitted.

FINDINGS: The phalanges are held in partial contraction, grasping what appears to be a radioopaque cylindrical foreign body, portions of which appear metallic. Clinical correlation is advised. This is suggestive of an artifact commonly known as a fountain pen, given that one end is metallic and shaped like a nib. Of note, these are charmingly inefficient writing tools not often seen these days.

Incidental note is made that the hand itself is held in partial flexion and abduction with respect to the carpus. Judging by this study, it would seem an inelegant way to hold such a device/relic.

IMPRESSION: 1) Findings may be compatible with the given history of obsessive-compulsive disorder, in light that the patient was reportedly unwilling to remove his writing instrument for this study, and given that the patient has an interest in fountain pens in the first place. Other differential diagnoses to consider would include too much time on their hands, extreme nerdiness, and sleep deprivation. Further psychiatric consultation may be of value. 2) Incidental note made of Southpaw Overwriter Syndrome. Further evaluation and correlation with barium enema ohmy.gif may be helpful.

Electronically Signed: by davyr 12/12/05 at 14:46 hrs.
jeen
That's diagnostic of: can't let go of my Doctors' pen. ohmy.gif tongue.gif

Regards,
J
KCat
Excellent!

good giggle of the day (GGotD?)
Slush99
Wow! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
winedoc
LOL!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif Good one!

Second opinion. I think we need to surgically remove the "foreign objects". It is the ONLY way to cure this problem.... of course, the same problem can develope on the other hand over time, but we'll deal with it then. laugh.gif

Kev
Dillo
Hi,

Is that a Conway Stewart? Looks like one. blink.gif

Dillon
davyr
yep, jeen was right, it's the cs doctor's pen. hmm, i'm betting it'd be fun to identify pens by their plain film appearance. ok, more x-rays to come...but don't hold your breath.
Denis Richard
QUOTE (davyr @ Dec 12 2005, 01:56 PM)
ok, more x-rays to come...but don't hold your breath.

Don't overdose... or are you using that pen as a shield ? laugh.gif

The presence of your ring reminded me of that famous radiograph :

Betty
Are you are doctor dav? How else do you get xrays of your own hand? That is so cool!
southpaw
cool.gif
saintsimon
QUOTE (winedoc @ Dec 12 2005, 10:31 PM)
LOL!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif Good one!

Second opinion. I think we need to surgically remove the "foreign objects". It is the ONLY way to cure this problem.... of course, the same problem can develope on the other hand over time, but we'll deal with it then. laugh.gif

Kev

If a cure is really wanted, only some brain surgery can achieve the goal. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif
antoniosz
Awesome!

AZ


PS> I hope to be able to show you "similar" pictures (no hand thought) soon - I have a surprise coming in Winter - stick around smile.gif
Michael Wright
QUOTE (Denis Richard @ Dec 12 2005, 10:03 PM)
The presence of your ring reminded me of that famous radiograph :

Umm, I may be the only one not to know this, but why is that radiograph famous, please?

Michael
Dillo
Hi,

It was one of the first and was made by the discoverer.

Dillon
saintsimon
QUOTE (Michael Wright @ Dec 13 2005, 06:29 AM)
QUOTE (Denis Richard @ Dec 12 2005, 10:03 PM)

The presence of your ring reminded me of that famous radiograph :

Umm, I may be the only one not to know this, but why is that radiograph famous, please?

Michael

If I am not mistaken about this old pic, it shows a ring on the finger of Ms. Roentgen herself, the first X-Ray 'model' and wife of the inventor cool.gif
Gerry
Absolutely correct.

http://nobelprize.org/physics/laureates/19...ontgen-bio.html

Quote...

On the evening of November 8, 1895, he found that, if the discharge tube is enclosed in a sealed, thick black carton to exclude all light, and if he worked in a dark room, a paper plate covered on one side with barium platinocyanide placed in the path of the rays became fluorescent even when it was as far as two metres from the discharge tube. During subsequent experiments he found that objects of different thicknesses interposed in the path of the rays showed variable transparency to them when recorded on a photographic plate. When he immobilised for some moments the hand of his wife in the path of the rays over a photographic plate, he observed after development of the plate an image of his wife's hand which showed the shadows thrown by the bones of her hand and that of a ring she was wearing, surrounded by the penumbra of the flesh, which was more permeable to the rays and therefore threw a fainter shadow. This was the first "röntgenogram" ever taken. In further experiments, Röntgen showed that the new rays are produced by the impact of cathode rays on a material object. Because their nature was then unknown, he gave them the name X-rays. Later, Max von Laue and his pupils showed that they are of the same electromagnetic nature as light, but differ from it only in the higher frequency of their vibration.

...

Gerry
Maja
Dave (davyr): laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Those x-rays and the write-up are hee-lar-ious! laugh.gif

Thanks very much for a really good laugh,
~Maja
emrecan
Hi Dave,
Wow!Man that looks cool and interesting -leftie here-.Funny article read biggrin.gif Thanks for posting wink.gif
davyr
thanks for the kind comments, everyone.

wilhelm conrad roentgen (1845-1923), discovered what he coined x-rays (x=unknown) in his wurtzburg lab in 1895. so he's the grandpappy of radiology. apparently a humble man, he didn't like his photograph to be taken, refused to apply for patents or proprietary rights on x-rays, and "even eschew(ed) eponymous descriptions of his discovery and its applications". quote and pics of roentgen taken from the dept of radiology, penn state u. college of medicine website, A CENTURY OF RADIOLOGY. fascinating stuff there. he was the first recipient of the nobel prize in physics in 1901.


radiologists (and patients) owe a lot to roentgen and the numerous men and women physicists and physicians who have developed the field to what it is today.

some old x-ray cathode tubes



here's some pages of a fun text from one of my former attendings, mike mulligan, md, classic radiologic signs, an atlas and history...

this one's for our admin emeritus.

this one's for our many dog lovers here on fpn.

and one for winedoc... wink.gif
winedoc
Very cool!! Have the same pen in my pocket today. Didn't know Napoleon has spondylolisthesis. Thanks for sharing.

Kev
Slush99
QUOTE (davyr @ Dec 13 2005, 05:53 PM)

this one's for our many dog lovers here on fpn.

that's me. wink.gif :bunny1:
Stylo
QUOTE (davyr @ Dec 13 2005, 09:53 AM)
radiologists (and patients) owe a lot to roentgen and the numerous men and women physicists and physicians who have developed the field to what it is today. 

Without hardcore sciences (physics, chemistry, biochemistry, etc.), engineering, and mathematics, pictures like the one below are what would have continued defining the face of medicine:



See definition of trepanation.
davyr
QUOTE
Didn't know Napoleon has spondylolisthesis.


no, i don't think napoleon had spondylolithesis/spondyloptysis (not that i know of, anyway). it's when you have greater than grade iv spondylolithesis that an ap view of the lumbar spine will look like an upside-down napoleon's hat. smile.gif
Denis Richard
QUOTE (Stylo @ Dec 13 2005, 12:08 PM)
Without hardcore sciences (physics, chemistry, biochemistry, etc.), engineering, and mathematics, pictures like the one below are what would have continued defining the face of medicine:


Well... does not look that different from today's surgical practice, does it ? laugh.gif

About Napoleon, I had the same split second hesitation than Kevin, before I realized that Napoleon died more than half a century too early to have his innard-picture taken. I saw that hat in person, btw, and--if I recall correctly--a full uniform is close by, as well as one of his horses, preserved (a white horse). In the cript of the same building is the huge pink marble sarcophagus that contains his remains.

Roentgen was also the first man to see if his wife was as pretty inside than outside, without having to open it biggrin.gif
winedoc
QUOTE (davyr @ Dec 13 2005, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE
Didn't know Napoleon has spondylolisthesis.


no, i don't think napoleon had spondylolithesis/spondyloptysis (not that i know of, anyway). it's when you have greater than grade iv spondylolithesis that an ap view of the lumbar spine will look like an upside-down napoleon's hat. smile.gif

Ah, I see. Re-read the small text and yes, it did states "Napoleon's Hat" sign. Thanks for clarification.

Kev
winedoc
QUOTE (Denis Richard @ Dec 13 2005, 01:03 PM)
I saw that hat in person, btw, and--if I recall correctly--a full uniform is close by, as well as one of his horses, preserved (a white horse). In the cript of the same building is the huge pink marble sarcophagus that contains his remains.

Roentgen was also the first man to see if his wife was as pretty inside than outside, without having to open it biggrin.gif

Couple years ago when we were in Paris, did visit Napoleon's resting place. Impressive structure and had a blast at the Musee de Armee (sp?). There were like no tourists and I had a great time... of course my wife was bored to tears. I am like "Hey, that's Marshall Ney's portrait", and she is like "Marshall who?" laugh.gif and I had to make it up to her by taking her shoppping. It was my turn to say "Louis Vuitton, who?" laugh.gif

Kev
Denis Richard
At least, Vuitton's main stores are by the Arc de Triomphe biggrin.gif
davyr
QUOTE
About Napoleon, I had the same split second hesitation than Kevin, before I realized that Napoleon died more than half a century too early to have his innard-picture taken. I saw that hat in person, btw, and--if I recall correctly--a full uniform is close by, as well as one of his horses, preserved (a white horse). In the cript of the same building is the huge pink marble sarcophagus that contains his remains.

QUOTE
Couple years ago when we were in Paris, did visit Napoleon's resting place. Impressive structure and had a blast at the Musee de Armee (sp?). There were like no tourists and I had a great time... of course my wife was bored to tears. I am like "Hey, that's Marshall Ney's portrait", and she is like "Marshall who?" laugh.gif  and I had to make it up to her by taking her shoppping. It was my turn to say "Louis Vuitton, who?" laugh.gif 


here's some pics from about a year ago of napoleon's resting place. yeah, that army museum was da bomb! but my wife was bored out of her mind.sad.gif



and just like kev, later that day, the s.o. went, what else, shopping. she bagged the bag she's wearing (one of many, many bags). and later that night, berthillon ice cream on the st. louis quay, yum! smile.gif
winedoc
OK Dave,

Your wife and my wife should never, and I mean NEVER, meet.... We will go broke with the bag thing, and no more pen money.... what horror!! laugh.gif
Denis Richard
Funny that you two Dave and Kevin rave about the Musée de l'Armée : the building, l'Hotel des Invalides (litteraly "hotel of the disabled") was built on Napoleon's order as a hospital for the veterans of his campaigns. Your Doctor's Pens would have felt right at home laugh.gif
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