Thanks... I will keep an eye out at pendemonium... hopefully they will be available sooner than later.

We do ship to the USA, but as AndyHayes suggests it is quite costly - sometimes more than the price of the product itself.. However, we are happy to quote for overseas delivery.

Martin

A moleskine style notebook with Rhodia papers would not disappoint. I can guarantee you that. I bought 12 pads of Rhodia papers and got them hand-binded at a workshop for the disabled. Paid about US$6.50 each. Enough to last me 2 years. That is another alternative for those who cannot wait.

This is excellent news.

to those of us in the usa, it might hurry things along if we all sent a note to the distributor expressing interest in Rhodia Webnotebooks: http://exaclair.com/contact.shtml

I had a nice note from Martin at TWD to say he has these pads on order but they were not in the last delivery. I expect we'll hear when they arrive. I'm really looking forward to trying both the A5 and A6 sizes.

Chris

LOL, just asked them about the availability - hadn´t noticed the latest posts here...

I did this and got a reply. They basically said they have received similar requests but the product is not available in the US. What is a guy to do????

Nota Bene in Montreal is supposed to have them soon! I think that they have a different distributor. So, there's hope for us North Americans.

Does anyone else remember the story about the shopkeeper who said to the customer, "Do you know, I've had a lot of people ask me for that today but I have to say we don't stock them because there is no call for them"?

Perhaps I should buy 50 and sell them on...

Chris

that's nonsense. it's exaclair's job to make them available in the us.

last year i made a lot of fuss here and elsewhere and with exaclair that there aren't any A4 staple-bound notebooks with 5x5 grid ruling. then they were added to the 2008 catalog. since feb they have been in the shops. i don't know if the change was related to my fussing but something got exaclair to change.

I got the same reply with a suggestion to look at the Quo Vadis Habana notebook instead. While it looks nice, i like the idea of actual white paper, and I couldn't find any for sale anyways.

Man I'd love to get in on this, but I only want one.

Any news on when Martin is going to have these in stock?

There's no sign of em on TWD website so far.

No, he mailed me and said he doesn´t know the date...

I hope this notebook makes it to Canada, I like Rhodia paper a lot.

So do I. I keep opening this thread in the hope that someone can confirm that Nota Bene is getting them in, as tantalizingly suggested upthread.

I would like to be the first shop to have them available at a reasonable price for shipment anywhere in the world. Reckon the first delivery would sell very quickly. Maybe we can start a market for "Rhodia Moleskin" futures.........

I like the way you think...


I have also been anxiously anticipating a way to get my hands on one of these bad boys.

Take a look at this:

http://www.quovadis-diaries.co.uk/acatalog..._NOTEBOOKS.html

So how much are we prepared to pay for these books when they finally become available?

Large Moleskines can be had for about twelve quid here in the UK. Do we envisage these going for the same kind of price or are they likely to be more expensive?

Any thought, folks?

The A6 are £5.15 each (for ten) on Bureau Online. The A5 are £8.65 each (for ten). I believe that this is RRP, BO don't tend to discount.

Has anyone noticed that there are also Cahiers available in A4, A5 and mini?

Waiting....patiently waiting....

Not so patiently waiting....

Same here - each day I wake up (thank God) I look for this thread expecting to find a new source but, alas, no such luck yet.

Well... been a while since I last posted on FPN. What a fortunate time I chose to log-in again!

I'm definitely going to get a few of these! Thanks for pointing them out, Andy (glad to see you're still posting here!).

Patrick

I've just received webnotebooks from BO - they were delayed as out of stock at Rhodia for a week or two. Opened the box and the look feel of the notebook was great but when I tested a pen I was a bit disappointed. I'm no expert but the paper is not like the rhodia tablet paper, (which is the only rhodia paper I've tried) - it is off white/ cream and feathers quite a bit - worse with some inks than others but visible with all of my pens (F/ XF nibs). There isn't any bleedthrough and the paper seems thicker than moleskine paper so less show through, the cover is a sort of rubber feel with rhodia embossed onto the centre front. It lays flat when open and the bookmark is satin rather than woven. I do like a really, really smooth paper - the habana notebook paper is my ideal, but I was hoping that the rhodia webnotebook would have the same paper but a harder cover and be a bit smaller. The cover is more rigid, the size identical to a moleskine but I don't think the paper is great. They're still useable, and I may be a bit fussy about the level of feathering - but for me the search continues.

Thanks for the information Kates, very useful. I can't believe that after all of the anticipation in this thread, the paper does not sound as if it is going to be up to quality

Yes, that would be a pity. I'll try one nonetheless, but I was also thinking that I might stick with Moleskines (ridiculous as they are...) for the hardcovered pocket ones - I think the Rhodia Webnotebook is soft covered(?). I find that Moleskines are tolerable if you have a couple slips of blotting paper to act as bookmarks.

Oh, and for folk in the UK, regarding Moleskines, I buy them from www.bookdepository.co.uk with free postage on all orders, worldwide as well, apparently. The prices are normally low, though they do fluctuate (e.g. the pocket hard cover ruled is £7.48 though I once bought for a little under £6). The free postage normally offsets price fluctuation anyway...

Patrick

[Edited to correct price of Moleskine - P]

Oh no! This is bad news - the whole point of these (for me!) is to have Rhodia tablet paper in notebook form. What is the point of using another paper?

I'm sorry for your disappointment but grateful that you let us know. I don't get the point of Rhodia even making these if the paper quality isn't going to be the same as their tablet paper.

The webnotebook is made of kind of soft rubberised finish but it is pretty rigid - more so than the ciak/ cartesio/ quo vadis habana notebooks for example. Also a further note - I have the pocket sized although I assume paper in both sizes is the same? Kate

Welcome back Patrick.

I recently bought Moleskine Reporters Large in the grid paper on Amazon UK for £4.81. The pocket sized were £8.40. There is some sense there, but I have yet to figure it out.

As far as the Rhodia paper is concerned in their other pads I have to say that there is often complaints that it is too dense a paper. I certainly notice the ink beading up from the wetter pens like the Densho. If these webnotebooks are somewhere between the standard Rhodia paper and Moleskine paper then I will be happy enough. What those of us in the UK need to remember is that these should work out a fair bit cheaper then the Moleskines, which are extremely over-priced to my mind.

Edited to add content

Hrm, that's a shame. It sounds to me like it has the same paper as the epure notebooks, then, which I am not as big a fan of.
I guess I'll stick with my quo vadis habana notebook for now -- I have to come to quite like it. The paper is lovely and silky, and they are easy for me to purchase here in London at a reasonable price.

bad, bad news....

my loyalty to the Apica strengthens...

The same here. Apica is taking the lead over Clairefontaine and Rhodia for me, (although they are both fantstic too). Just wish they had more traditional designs. The paper is superior to any other.

I wish I could find somebody in the UK that stocks Apica. I really want to try one, but the only places that I can find them are either from taylorsintherockies on eBay, or Skripta in Paris and in both cases, the shipping charges to the UK are pretty high.

I just got this email today:

Dear Friend,
April 30, 2008

The new Rhodia ePURE and Webnotebooks everyone has been clamouring for have arrived!

ePure Notebook


Lined Webnotebook

You can see and purchase them at the PENDEMONIUM table at the upcoming Chicago Pen Show on Sunday, May 4, 2008 from 10 am to 4 pm. The admission fee for Sunday only is $5 at the door.
The Chicago Pen Show will be held at: The Westin O’Hare
Main Ballroom
6100 North River Road
Rosemont, Illinois 60018
847-698-6000


Ted Regencia of the Rhodia Drive blog



Ted Regencia, a journalist who blogs for Rhodia on Rhodia Drive will be on hand to meet fans and notebook affectionatos.

Rhodia Drive is a blog about Rhodia notebooks, writing accessories, and journaling in general. It’s a free zone, where devotees of this “orange notebook with a cult following” share new ideas, tips, tricks, links on the latest tools, and general notebook-related news.

Designers and crafters, cartoonists, architects, photojournalists and travelers, writers and pen collectors—anybody who loves notebooks—come together on Rhodia Drive.

See you at the show!

Karen Doherty

Does this mean I can get an A5-sized Moleskine-style (hard covers; elastic strap; internal pocket; 200-ish pages horizontal-ruled both sides) notebook with Rhodia / Clairefontaine paper here in the USA simply by going to the Pendemonium website?

I hope someone can clear this up for me. Is the Rhodia epure the same thing we are all anticipating here?

As I understand these were available at the Chicago chow, has anyone else tried these?

Nope. You're wanting the webnotebook.

I have one of those, here is a comparison I did with both a Moleskine agenda and a Rhodia Webnotebook:
Moleskine:



Rhodia:



The pen is the blue one in this pic, a 10euro Pentel Tradio fountain pen, with Waterman black ink cartridges:

The pen is held on the intended side on the top pics of each notebook, and upside-down for the bottom pics. Upside down it writes much finer than the regular way. Something like a duopoint, but the fine side is quite hard to start sometimes (you can see it on the Moleskine, the beginning of the fine part is terrible).

Hope this helps some people here.

If you want I can also upload general comparison pics of this Webnotebook, a City Moleskine and the Moleskine agenda used here. Just let me know.

Thank you for the pics but what is your opinion? The webnote looks better but how do you find them?

Ew, does that say NOTES on the head of every page?

The paper is a bit better regarding feathering on the Rhodia, but the moleskine still opens flatter and more easily. The feel of the paper is slightly different but not enough for me to say that one is better than the other.

The cover is plain, quite rubbery and a tad thicker on the Rhodia, while the Moleskine is textured, and a bit slippier. This is a matter of taste, I don't think it affects function.

another interesting point, the Rhodia logo is printed on each two pages, on the right lower corner.

The elastic band and the pocket look pretty similar.

The bookmark is a bit wider on the Rhodia (6mm, compared to the 4.5mm one on my Moleskine)

I can't really comment on the paper lines since I don't have a regular lined Moleskine (I have a City-Paris, agenda, and some 5mm square pattern)

Falika > no, the notebook shown under the pens is my Moleskine agenda, on the last blank pages (the lines you see are due to the paper translucence). So no "notes" written on the Rhodia.
The logo printed on the right-lower corner of each 2 pages is bigger, though: 1cm wide and 4mm high. You'll know you're writing on a Rhodia notebook.

Thanks choubbi. It sounds like the webnotes may not be the answer to all our dreams - a moleskin clone but with quality paper. moleskin paper continues to disappoint but many of us love the style of the notebook. My search continues.

I am still not ruling out the Rhodia webnotebooks because the paper in the Moleskines is so variable. I was lucky by buying a load early before they became so fashionable (yuk!). Whether they were made in China or not at that point I have no idea, but the quality of the paper was always the same and they didn't fall apart if you looked at them wrongly.

Moleskines are extortionately priced in the UK, so if the webnotebooks come in at a sensible price then I think that they could be competitive here. we shall see. I have yet to get my grubby little hands on one.

Hmm... I'm not too great of a fan of the thicker cover. The better "feathering performance" is nice though.

If A5-sized Moleskins can be purchased for £7.13 delivered (see Book Depository), that makes the equivalent Quo Vadis Habana and Ciak very pricey at £14.95 and £17.55 delivered, respectively (see Quo Vadis, Ciak). I would be tempted to either stick with the Moleskines or try some other alternatives (eg one of the Clairefontaine notebooks) while we all wait for the Rhodias...

Uh, I hate to admit this, but I´m back to Moleskines. At least the leather-covered Clairefontaine doesn´t work for me: it doesn´t lie flat at all and the silky/glossy paper doesn´t "suck" ink the way I´d like it to, causing some skipping...

I've managed to order a couple of each size of Rhodia webnotes and hope to have them here in Australia in a week. Will report then.