I inherited this Eversharp pen and pencil set and have tried to find out anything about them. I am the third generation to have them so they are very old. The fountain pen has a bladder that looks like a small uninflated balloon. It has the side clip that I'm guessing is how you fill the pen with ink. Both the pen and pencil are tolally gold and seem to be solid gold with exception of the top clips that show metal under the gold. The main bodies of the set have tiny nicks but show only gold. The nib on the pen is the only 14k gold marking I could find. I will have them tested to make sure.
Any information would be greatly appreciated. I have posted a photo below but can e-mail additional photos to anyone that would like them.
My e-mail address is danny112@centurytel.net

Thanks in advance for any help or information:
Carla Bailey

dreamwvr57,
Welcome to FPN! Your set in question is an Eversharp Skyline set,made in the 1940s. It is the more expensive version of the Skyline in that it is a 14k gold combination.

Regards,
John

!4k Skylines are so marked at the top of the caps. I notice that the pen barrel and the entire pencil are smooth indicating they might well be 14k, but the pen cap is vertically lined. That means it is a mismatch, not the right cap for the barrel. Check around the top of the pencil for a 14k hallmark. If it is there my guess is the pen barrel is 14k also but the cap is a replacement and probably gold filled. Don't bother having them tested, it isn't really worth it.

I think the most important thing with family heirloom pens is their sentimental value. Besides that, this is a very nice set. Probably the ink sac will need replacing (you can get an ink sac + shellac to attach it + talc to protect it from rubbing by the pressure bar for around ten dollars, so it's not an expensive repair), and it will be always nice to write with great-grandpa's pen.
I almost forgot to add that its from the 1930s or 1940s, and it must have been a fairly expensive pen then (thus, it was used by someone who already was not a schoolkid then).

Smart guy, took whatever info from here, then copy-paste to Ebay in a sec: Wahl Eversharp Skyline Pen and Pencil set
Not a hesitation to think about family values...

His gold calculation is way off. He'll never get what his reserve is probably set at.

Yes, He's right about the ebay thing..... I came to this web site to get information about something I don't know anything about so my description would be as accurate as possible. As for the sentimental value... I can't say that there is any. I received these items in the mail from someone I never knew and someone who dis-owned his grand-daughter for getting married to someone who wasn't rich or connected. So yes ... there is no sentiment for the man who called the general working class people beneath him and so if this pen and pencil set and if it goes to someone who collects and appreciates this set as a collector than I feel that I have done right by the pen and pencil set as I don't have any remorse for selling them. Oh... and yes the ONLY other thing I received from the estate was a tie clip ... and yes it too is on ebay.

Oh ... I forgot I am a she and the daughter of two working class parents and the reserve is $200.00.

You won't get 200. No collector will want it because the cap is wrong. melt value for a complete 14k set might be 150. Without the cap I doubt it is much over 100. Had you said up front you wanted to sell it you would have gotten better help here and maybe even some offers. PS - I even have a spare 14k cap for it

Well I suppose you are right about my not handling the start of this post correctly. This is the first group info I have ever been on and did not know what the protocol was. I have taken the advice and lowered the reserve to $150.00 . I don't have the passion for collecting pens that everyone here has and in some ways, after reading a lot of the forums, I envy you all your passion.

Should pull around $45

d

i notice too that you are dishonest in your ebay ad.

d

How so??? I used the information about the set I was given here.

I am guessing this is why it is referred to as a combination 14k gold pen and pencil set.

It is not so referred and LBpens corrected this earlier. Indeed John's comment was made seemingly before it was even clear the pen was a mix. " It is the more expensive version of the Skyline in that it is a 14k gold combination." references presence of 14k on the pen, not the mismatch, and is not formal jargon anyway- though on that latter point, there would be no way for you to know.

The pen appears to be a mismatch. A frankenpen. Something of a disaster, really, as far as pens go. There is no term in pendom as "combination" aside from a derivative of this word for item that has pen and pencil in one unit.

Your ad and approach are serving as an example primarily of what serious pen collectors avoid. That too has value. Still, whilst i rarely advocate removal of threads, if it were not the benefit this thread serves to illustrate well the abuses that exist in the hobby, i would not mind seeing it go. The educational value though has merit.

regards

david

So I guess you would have to admit I was not dishonest ... just misinformed ... not knowledgeable. I can't change what I wrote in the description because there are bids.... but as you say, it probably won't sell anyway ... I hope it does because I sure need the money but hey ... that's eBay. I must admit I enjoy reading the different forums here ... I never had any idea that there was so much information about pens and sets. I guess I have always been one of the masses that took writing instruments for granted and never considered there worth in the scheme of things in history till today. I have been forever changed in that without thinking about it I caught myself looking more closely at (who'd of thunk) pens. even today in the line at Wal Mart someone was using an unusual pen. I'm doomed!! I still find myself wanting to know what kind of pen she was writing her check with......DOOMED!

Perhaps a more... upfront... approach to goal sets when asking for... help... will yield less pointed responses. There's always next time.

regards

david

David,
By taking a quick glance at the pic as it was scrolling down my monitor I immediately could tell that it was a 14k Skyline;had I taken a better look at the pic(by blowing it up)I would have notified her that she had a combo or frankenpen. The sad part in my mind,is her reluctance to see that she did anything wrong by rewording statements from FPNers here(basically intellectual theft)to use for her own financial gain and then BARELY admitting any wrongdoing. I also worded my statement in a general fashion intentionally to avoid the impression of any specific model--I'm human and can miss important details.

My kudos to you,mandragoru,and LBpens for catching the situation and making the right judgements.

John

As your Wahl-Eversharp Forum moderator, I have been monitoring this post and its follow-ons since the beginning. I like to err on the side openness and tolerance and allow as many points and of view to be expressed as people have. So long as the material being discussed stays on topic remains civil in tone, and serves some informational purpose, I never step in.

I think this thread points out something interesting even if the pen is not.

While this and other forums devoted to the pen hobby have been primarily populated by pen enthusiasts and devotees, sometimes people drop in to pick a brain or two with no intention of contributing to the hobby in any way. They usually want to get accurate information to help them with being as professional as possible in their own business and in selling an item correctly. And that is good for everyone involved, I think.

This thread started out OK but went sideways when the regulars here took exception to what originally sounded like a grandson's or grand-nephews wholesome interest in the history of what sounded like an heirloom to dreamwvr57 turned out to be motivated by commercial interests and when the emphasis shifted from pens to the value of scrap gold.

I don't think dreamwvr57 intended to insult anyone. He/she would not necessarily understand how the hawking of the pen on eBay for its gold content might go against the grain for most pen enthusiasts. Nor might he know how seriously we take the description of pens. I think that lesson has now been learned by this thread

From the 2 most recent replies it seems we are "coming together" again, and if the thread ends here that will be just fine. However, if it devolves further it may just go poof.

Thanks
YHM

Syd the Wahlnut

You are human? Welcome to the club At least, i believe the three of us you cite are members too. Well, maybe.

Idunno. I was just left with a bad feeling about how this played out. The issue for me was not so much about a detail about a pen- that's what we play here to learn. In fact, i too might've missed the mixed parts issue save for seeing Lynn's comments. The bad feeling about the thread stemmed more about the "hidden agenda" thing. What's so hard about saying, "Hey, i found a pen, i would like to put it on ebay, can you help me with info" and then waiting a bit to get some solid answers.

d

Geez, it always pains me to have to admit when Syd is making good points

-d