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kmpond
I am very new to world of FP's, and am in the market for my second purchase. I currently have a Centuary II. I am trying to decide between the Lammy Studio or the Pelikan M215. I have read good reviews about both, but I have heard the M215 can be a little dry or scratchy? Any help would be great.

Thanks, Kevin
pakmanpony
Welcome to FPN!! I have one Lamy (2000) and 10 or so Pelikans. I've never really experienced a dry scratchy Pelikan. The only scratchy Pel nib I have really heard of are the extra fines.

punch
QUOTE(kmpond @ Mar 21 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]553554[/snapback]
I am very new to world of FP's, and am in the market for my second purchase. I currently have a Centuary II. I am trying to decide between the Lammy Studio or the Pelikan M215. I have read good reviews about both, but I have heard the M215 can be a little dry or scratchy? Any help would be great.

Thanks, Kevin


Both are excellent pens in that price range. It really boils down to what you want. I have a blue Studio with a steel nib and it is extremely smooth, moreso than some of the Pelikans that I own. However, the nibs on both the Studio and the Pelikan are interchangable, so what one hears is really not an issue. Given the choice that you have, I would go with a Studio Palladium with its gold nib, and I would get the F nib since it writes a lot like a medium. But that is just my preference. I have a Pelikan M200, and I have to say that I like the nib on the Lamy better. You also have to decide if you like a piston filler or a cartridge / converter filler. Also, there are some really nice user replaceable nib units for the Pelikan, so I would probably think about what you want to do in the future. Really, I don't think that you can go wrong with either pen, so pick the one that you like the best.
Steven
I agree with Punch and would also add that the Lamy Studio is a heavier pen.
kmpond
Thanks for the advise. I was looking at Richard's pen website and read that he can custamize a M215. How do you think that route could be? I like the look of both pens but am a little more partion to the shape of the M215.
punch
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Thanks for the advise. I was looking at Richard's pen website and read that he can custamize a M215. How do you think that route could be? I like the look of both pens but am a little more partion to the shape of the M215.


Then buy the M215. Customization at this point does not make a lot of sense unless you really know what you want. Get a standard M215 with a M nib and write with it for a while. Then ask yourself what it is about the pen that you do not like (if indeed there is anything), and that will give you a basis for customization. I currently own 8 Pelikans and 6 Lamys and I have not even scratched the surface of what is available in stock nibs for these two makes. However, I have been writing long enough (30+ years) and with enough different fountain pens that I could give Mr. Binder a good idea of what I do and don't like. I have not yet done this because I have not really found anything that I need to do at this time that I cannot do with one of the several dozen pens that I already own. Get the M215 if you like it better and write with it until your arm drops off. Then think about customizing it.

Just my $0.02 (worth less than a steaming turd in this economy).
rollerboy
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QUOTE(kmpond @ Mar 22 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]554097[/snapback]
Thanks for the advise. I was looking at Richard's pen website and read that he can custamize a M215. How do you think that route could be? I like the look of both pens but am a little more partion to the shape of the M215.


Then buy the M215. Customization at this point does not make a lot of sense unless you really know what you want. Get a standard M215 with a M nib and write with it for a while.


I'll second the spirit of the advice but differ on the M nib aspect. Unless you are deliberately looking for something with a much wider line than a typical ballpoint/gel/rollerball, go for an F nib. An F nib is already as wide or wider than ballpoint/gel/rollerballs, especially on typically encountered copier paper and office pads. I'd go with an F to start.
Whome
Both are wonderful pens!

The Lamy Studio has great balance and is very, very smooth. The Pelikan M215 holds a ton of ink and fits perfectly in a shirt pocket.

I've not experienced it, but I have heard that Pelikan Extra Fine nibs can be a little scratchy. If you go with the Pelikan M215, I would recommend starting with a Fine nib. I purchased a Medium nib when I originally picked up mine. The Medium nib puts down a little wider line then I expected. I later ground it down to a Cursive Italic. (Not recommended for the faint of heart) smile.gif

You can easily change the nib on either pen. I bought my Lamy Studios with several replacement nibs: Extra Fine, Fine, and 1.1M Italic. I found that I like different nibs depending on the situation. You may find the same.

Please let us know which pen you decide and what you think!


punch
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QUOTE(punch @ Mar 22 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]554126[/snapback]
QUOTE(kmpond @ Mar 22 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]554097[/snapback]
Thanks for the advise. I was looking at Richard's pen website and read that he can custamize a M215. How do you think that route could be? I like the look of both pens but am a little more partion to the shape of the M215.


Then buy the M215. Customization at this point does not make a lot of sense unless you really know what you want. Get a standard M215 with a M nib and write with it for a while.


I'll second the spirit of the advice but differ on the M nib aspect. Unless you are deliberately looking for something with a much wider line than a typical ballpoint/gel/rollerball, go for an F nib. An F nib is already as wide or wider than ballpoint/gel/rollerballs, especially on typically encountered copier paper and office pads. I'd go with an F to start.


That depends on a lot of factors. I write with a pretty light hand, and the steel M nib on my M215 puts down about the same line as the F nib on my M200. Both are about the same as my Lamy Rollerball (I just checked). The steel M nib on the M215 is noticeably more narrow than the M nibs on my M600's.

And by the way, why on Earth would I want my writing with my fountain pens to look like the line on a ballpoint or rollerball? Copier paper and office pads? Heresy! Why not just forget about a $100+ pen and go with a Pilot V pen with that paper? smile.gif
ethernautrix
I have the M215, and it's a beautiful pen, writes consistently (XF) and smoothly. I have no complaints about it, none.
rollerboy
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Copier paper and office pads? Heresy! Why not just forget about a $100+ pen and go with a Pilot V pen with that paper? smile.gif


Truth be told, my fountain pens do lead a sheltered life. They taste only Clairefontaine. smile.gif However, since I figured the original poster might want to take his pen slumming, he should allow for the line widening effect of typical office paper.





J English Smith
My new 200 series steel rhodium plated Pel F nib is perfect - I honestly can't imagine wanting a finer line. It is definitely finer than the Medium, but not scratchy. Smoother than most Esterbrook steel nibs, IMO, and I have some pretty smooth Estie nibs!
EventHorizon
I have always had good luck with both brands but if I had to pick one, based on the two options, I would pick the LAMY due to the size. The M200 I had was a great writer but just to small for me.
piembi
QUOTE(punch @ Mar 23 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]554839[/snapback]
And by the way, why on Earth would I want my writing with my fountain pens to look like the line on a ballpoint or rollerball? Copier paper and office pads? Heresy! Why not just forget about a $100+ pen and go with a Pilot V pen with that paper? smile.gif


Thanks!
I do like my fountainpens looking like a fountainpen! And this is why I prefer medium nibs thumbup.gif
At the office I need a fine nib, too, but the fine is still broader than any ballpoint.
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