I just got a note from Frank at Pendemonium. They've got the newly renamed and relabeled Violet Vote (formerly Iraqi Indigo) available in the regular and larger size.

I'm sure the site will be updated soon. I've gone through half the bottle I had, and so even though I have another II bottle on the way, I'll order the VV.

From my sales receipt, the part # is NI-VOTE (rather than the old NI-IRQ).

Is it the same formula and colour, but just a different name?

Everything is the same except for the name change.

Why the name change?

Because its an exit strategy....

I, for one, am glad they changed the name. I loved the colour but the name had me thinking twice.

Zing!

In that case, shouldn't the vowels be transposed?

lol.

Cheers

Will

Not everyone understood the reason behind the name, so that could definitely be a misunderstanding.

I wish they'd kept the Indigo in the name, though, since the color is very close to Persian Indigo.

A lot of people objected to the name and label graphics.

That's a shame. I thought it was quite clever, and in no way offensive.

That's interesting. I find the label celebrating the heroic voting of the Iraqi people in the face of the threats of the terrorists both inspiring and humbling.

Here's a note about the new name and label and the reasons for the change.

I'm glad I got some of the last of this ink.

Ditto. It will always be "Iraqi Indigo" to me.

I hear what you're saying, and that's seems to have been the label's intention. But then it should have had the Iraqi flag on the label and not an imperialist (in this context) stars and stripes. Plus history has made it impossible to believe that "spreading democracy" had anything to do with the decision to invade as there was no post-war planning. So the label comes off as a celebration of the administration's lies and propaganda.

I agree.

However, I do think the name Iraqi Indigo is better than Violet Vote. Why couldn't he have changed the label and kept the name?

In any case, this is my favorite ink. I will be looking around for a few last II bottles. I'll be a willing customer of VV, though!

Best,
Summer Greer

The artwork changed...a LOT. The original was about the use of an ink in an extremely significant & historic event. When certain people started to ask for the ink "unlabelled", I thought it was time the name reflected the historic use of the ink more directly and the artwork attempt to communicate the same...so that they might want it not only for the ink, but perhaps...just maybe....appreciate the label art as well.

It was certainly NOT changed due to the death threats from certain failed synapse troglodytes.

Noodling
I liked the first label and look forward to seeing the second which I just ordered from Pendemonium. You do very good work. Keep it up. Good ink makes better words. WDTM?

Wow, the new label is gorgeous.





But the Pendemonium scan makes it look more vibrant as an ink, very violet. Are they really the same inks? A few of Nathan's inks have been reformulated with a significant difference between old and new (eg, Victoria's R.Mint, Mata Hari). My Iraqi Indigo is a bit of a greyish lavender with some blue tones... and the old scan on pendemonium was more accurate.

Wow, the label is great. I can hardly wait for mine.

Once I get a few more ink shipments, I have a cunning plan that'll make everyone happy. I may need some help, but I'll be sure to ask for it if I do.

This is funny...

Yesterday, I JUST ordered two of the Legal Lapis with pen deals from Pendemonium (looks like I got some of the last if the website is accurate in saying they are out of stock) and begged Sam for any size Iraqi Indigo he had. He sent me the 4.5 Violet Vote with pen deal that JUST showed up on the website (it wasn`t there when I placed the order).

I agree, the new label is awesome.

So, pretty soon I will have 3 of those eyedropper pens to go along with my Waterman Charleston and Sheaffer Javelin and can fill them all with plenty of bullet-proof legal lapis and VV (formerly II)! :-)

Chris

From my experience with the ink, both scans are accurate. The top scan is what the ink looks like when it's still wet. Whereas the bottom scan is when the ink is completely dried.

That makes a lot of sense, really. It's my understanding that this sort of color shift happens a lot with the Noodler's bulletproof inks.

It's all a part of the emborgment of the paper.

Funny, the joys of ordering online and never meeting people other than in an email... I have since been informed that Sam is a female... Oops! I apologize to Sam, SHE sent me all those cool inks and pens! :-)

Chris

Love the new label. Can anyone with a new bottle of VV tell me if the new color scan that Matt (Melnicki) posted is correct? I have the Iraqi Indigo and the scan for it is correct. If the VV scan is correct, it's the same color but much more vibrant. Anyone?

The new label is really cool! I like it.

My next ink purchase will include VV.

When next I can afford it...

Actually, the new name is "The Violet Vote" -- [acronym="The Violet Vote"]TVV[/acronym] -- which makes more sense. The definite article makes it clear that the name refers to a particular event.

But, I agree with you: there was nothing wrong with "Iraqi Indigo".

I think the complaints about the label were artwork related and probably could have been resolved without changing the name. I think the name change is probably best for marketing/understanding reasons, though.

Emborgment? Definition, please.

>>>>>Someone wrote: But the Pendemonium scan makes it look more vibrant as an ink, very violet. Are they really the same inks? A few of Nathan's inks have been reformulated with a significant difference between old and new (eg, Victoria's R.Mint, Mata Hari). My Iraqi Indigo is a bit of a greyish lavender with some blue tones... and the old scan on pendemonium was more accurate.<<<<

I guarantee you that The Violet Vote is the EXACT same color as Iraqi Indigo! Same ink, different name, different label. I have probably 10 different swashes of every ink around here, done with different pens, on different papers and in different light they all look just a tiny bit different. A visual thing!

BTW - I hate the way that quickie sample looks, did it very late at night in low light, quick 300dpi scan so it could get up on the site, must re-do that when wide awake which is not right now ......

Good weekend all and Happy Easter to those who are celebrating ... I just want the bunny to bring me chocolate - LOL!

Sam

Emborgment: to become part of The Borg. In this sense, the ink telling the paper that "resistance is futile."

Mmm, bunnies. Chocolate.

I just received my first two bottles of Violet Vote today, and I have tested them against my two bottles of Iraqi Indigo. Yep, same ink (with some minor batch variation, perhaps; I didn't look in broad daylight). Since I wrote on that paper in other colors in a different direction, I'm not sure a scan would be helpful.

It is indeed gorgeous! I've been on the fence about trying out Iraqi Indigo (though nothing to do with the name) but that label makes me want to see it in person. So I ordered the 4.5oz bottle (may as well have the label as big as possible) along with other inks.

The painting on the bottle seems to ring a bell. I wonder if it's a painting of the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, with a purple dipped finger hovering over it. Now that would be a sight!

It is, which is probably why I'll use this in my Lighthouse of Alexandria. I'd been torn about what ink to use in it, and the closest I'd thought of was Ottoman Azure. I want an ink that's not only the right color, but metaphorically interesting.

The painting is of the Tower of Babel. Perhaps this is to symbolize that the historic vote didn't succeed in preventing interminable civil war?

It's a painting by Brueghel.

I agree, it's a beautiful label. I've been on the fence about Iraqi Indigo either, but the new label is pushing me over the edge. It wasn't the name, it was the chalky look on the original scan. On the other hand, now that I have Legal Lapis, it seems that ink in real life is often deeper than ink on my monitor, so now I'm a bit more hopeful.

limesally,

Like other inks, Iraqi Indigo has looked light and chalky from some of my pens and very, very dark from others. Sometimes I pick a pen that shows it as a nicer medium purple!

Best, Ann

I feel exactly the same way. I've been looking at Iraqi Indigo for months but the faded color drew me away. But the new sample makes me want to try it. I ordered it from Pendemonium and it should arrive today.