I am new to this forum and I am also new as a Wahl collector. I observed that here, in the Wahl section there was only ONE new post during the weekend.
With all the due respect for the other participants, I'll bring to your attention something that may animate the atmosphere.

Look at this Ebay listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...4.cBID.m312.lVI



The guy is asking for 900 bucks. I considered this a joke and I offered him $60 and when he answered with a 700 counteroffer I gave up.

This may be a starting point for your comments, for which I thank you very much.

Not sure how much it's worth but $60 certainly sounds too low.

Well, I opened with 60 to start a conversation. But his "700 bucks" reply left me speachless...

I don't think it's worth much more than 60. If I were selling it you could definitely get it for under 100.

If the color really is superb, with pen and pencil (and box) with restoration I'd pin it retail at $120-150 range. If color were poor, it would probably be parts value only. Always room for different views of the market.

regards

david

I think it's a beautiful little set, especially in its box: I'd pay that much ($120) for it, David, if I weren't in a spouse-imposed pen spending freeze!

I've seen few eBay auctions that passed without bid because the seller had too high a starting price, even though they might have achieved that much if they had of made it fun for the "punters".

I just hope the inflated price has nothing to do with what the seller paid for the item in the first place!

Darren.

You think that maybe he thinks that there's gold in them thar pens?

I think you can compare the pen to the pencil and see there is uniform discoloration on the pen. Plus, I think I can see a band of discoloration across the middle of the cap.

You never know, here's an interesting thread from another group on this forum:

http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=55337

Be interesting to see if anyone does make a bid, after all it does look very nice.


Greg

Oh dear.....you as well!

Here's an enlargement of the cap. No discoloration? Look at my thread titled more wahl pics for some perfect jade.

Another one from the bay:
Wahl/Eversharp ???





I don't know much about this pen, but I think that the "1938 WAHL EVERSHARP GREY/PEARL" description is far from reality. I guess that it is a '50-'60 pen, made by the Parker-Eversharp Co., but I'm not sure and I'm asking for other opinions.
And what about the price?

I have a few of these. They were never made for the US market and I think they were made by Evershapr before the parker takeover, but as you say later than 38. I don't know what it will go for but I'm not surprised to see it pretty high since many have never seen one.

A fresh one:
Semi-demonstrator



Is the transparency genuine or aquired due to the degradation of the plastic? I am curious because the price went pretty high at this auction, much higher than I wanted to bid.

It appears indeed to have Toxic Tushy Syndrome, not uncommon on Dorics, which also get Toxic Keppe Syndrome. Toxic Tushy syndrome precedes "ain't got no more tushy" syndrome in such pens.

Pretty pen set in nifty color, but seems high to me if indeed has Toxic Tushy syndrome. If just a trick of the light, then i retract my objection.

regards

david

Please explain both syndromes--are we talking about the cap and butt end of the pen(duh? )

Crazing. Translucency. Eventually abject discombulation. Browns n' Greens at Wahl seem particularly susceptible. Often seems to occur at the ends. Inner cap effects? Stress on the plastic?

Toxic Tushy Syndrome??? Sounds like the aftereffects of a dodgy bowl of Chilli to me...

... G

some examples of toxic tushy and toxic keppe syndrome







regards

david

Amazing how long a pen with with both Toxic Tushy and Toxic Keppe can carry on without finally giving in to Toxic Kishkes!

Yet another one from the bay:
this pen (VINTAGE WAHL EVERSHARP GOLD SEAL FOUNTAIN PEN) is presented as a Gold Seal.
In the following pictures




we can observe that the seal presents a hole in it. Does this means that the pen is no longer a Gold Seal? In this case the auction price seems a little too high.
The matter becomes wierd after seeing in this picture of the back of the cap



a label with a price ($7.00), meaning that the pen is new!

The pen still is a gold seal pen (it was so manufactured) and the punched seal is a recognized Wahl phenomenon.

The price sticker means pen has a price tag, but not that it must be unused.

Price seems fair IF the pen is clean as looks- even minty pens can craze/crack in this color.

david

Do you still have these pictures? If so I'd like to have some -- cannot see them in your posting any more. Btw, why is the back of the cap weired? thanks.

David, do you think that this pen might have crazed at the cap?

Crazy man ... like crazy ...

Thanks for the pics, David. Very interesting. Funny how the plastics interact and degrade like that.

I observed this Keystone pen on Ebay and I'm wondering if it has any connection with Wahl/Eversharp pens?

Connection? You mean like was it made by Wahl? It wasn't and I'm pretty sure there is no other connection except the unlikely one that it has a 14k nib that was made by Wahl.

I thought that was 'abject discombulation'


Greg

That's where it leads.

d

Hello,

one question: what is the Wahl pen "diagnosed" bay "david i" with that abominable toxic keppe syndrome ? I had never seen that model before. Now that I fell in love with Skylines as I announced on the forum just a moment ago - this model looks like it is their sibling. Is it a worthy one? Or is it just another copy of Parkers vac duofold like Wearever pacemaker?

Thanks Zed

(Ok I ended up asking a few more questions but I hope you don't mind...)

The pen in question is the Eversharp Pacemaker. I always thought it funny that Wearever had a pen with the same name. The Pacemaker, when in sound condition, is a very handsome and duerable pen and nothing like a Wearever to my way of thinking. They were well made durable (except for the plastics problem that the browns and some greens had). The blue is a very good looking pen. The nibs are as good as on any other solid gold nib Wahl or Eversharps. The clip was a carryover from the Coronets. They date from around 1937 to 1939 or so. They were lever fillers only so not really a vac copy. I think you will see the evolution of the Pacemaker if you look at the Coronets first. The Pacemaker pencils are also a carryover from the coronet design. Pacemakers are cool!

Syd

Hello Syd,

thanks for the en enlightening answer. And starting new thread on the pen.

Zed

An useful article about crazed pens: Crazed Celluloid from Kamakura.