jeen
Nov 30 2005, 10:56 PM
Once again I apologize for my inept photographs, but the ink color is hard to capture.

And a closer shot:

I should mention the flow is very good.
The price at the Brick and Mortar was $10.50 for 50ml.
If you are looking for a bright leafy green, this isn't it. But if you are looking
for a black-green or dark olive drab green, you've found it. I love this ink.
Regards,
Jeen
I wholeheartedly agree! It's great. I've been using it in cartridges since shortly after its release. While it's not waterproof, it is quite water resistant. Very nice ink!
jeen
Dec 1 2005, 02:56 AM
JMK,
It's good to know about the water resistance.
What's interesting about this ink color is that it is both sedate (does not shout at you) and non-traditional (not blue or black).
I find the color soothing (reminding me of the woods) and the contrast on white and ecru paper is excellent.
This is my first non blue or black favorite ink!
Regards,
J
NeilB
Dec 1 2005, 12:37 PM
Thanks for the review, Jeen. I've been looking for the right green for some time (PR's 'Avacado' [sic] is too vivid for me; Herbin Vert Olive is too pale), and this might just be The One.
Neil
emrecan
Dec 5 2005, 02:35 PM
Hi Jeen,
Thanks for the review.It looks great i like the looks and intensity of this ink.If i can find it it would be nice.
Thanks
Take Care
Emrecan
Bryan
Mar 1 2006, 04:40 AM
jeen
Mar 1 2006, 05:16 AM
Bryan,
The color doesn't match the green of British racing cars, but I love this ink!
It's one of my all time favorites and use it all the time.
I did a brief review of it too when it first came out
Any chance you have MB Sepia? I'd love to see how it looks.
Regards,
J
M4R1N4
Mar 1 2006, 05:40 AM
The name comes from all those nifty little British sports cars.. Jags, MGs, Triumphs, Minis... they came in 'British Racing Green' as a color option (my Dad had an MG T-D in Brit Racing Green before I was even a twinkle in his eye. Never saw it, but saw lots of pics!

) It was like this one:

Does this ink come in cartridges too or just bottles? I would like to buy him some for the nostalgia

Thanks for the review!!
Bryan
Mar 1 2006, 06:33 AM
Hi Jeen,
I didn't realize you had already done a review of this ink. I merged my review into your thread...
Bryan
Thanks for the review Bryan! I like that shade. Nice pics too Jeen.
A few years back I rebuilt my little old '67 Austin Healy Sprite (Yellow). I then drove it across the desert in the summertime from Las Vegas to Santa Barbara CA.
Right before my destination exit my fanbelt broke. I pulled off the highway and did a little McGuiver mechanics.
I drove on into Goleta to Moss Motors and some of their guys came out to see my little car because I opened the hood.
They all broke out laughing and they gave me a little Austin Healy pin because I had used my leather belt as a fanbelt. I had cut off a strip, soaked it in water and tied it on tight enough to get me the 5 miles into Goleta.
When they gave me the pin they told me; "An MG driver would have towed it in, but the Austin Healy driver always drives it in."

They also had a pristine "MG T-D" in their showroom, that's one of my favorites too.
M4R1N4
Mar 1 2006, 06:57 AM
Good story krz! Do you still have that car?? Pics are always welcome!
saintsimon
Mar 1 2006, 02:31 PM
QUOTE (M4R1N4 @ Mar 1 2006, 06:40 AM)
Does this ink come in cartridges too or just bottles? I would like to buy him some for the nostalgia

Thanks for the review!!
Hi, Marina, the 'Racing Green' comes in both bottles and carts, but it definitely does not resemble the British car racing green. The MB ink is rather olive in tone, and quite nice for itself.
RichardS
Mar 1 2006, 02:52 PM
There never was a standard British Racing Green, as privately-owned racing teams in the 1950s and early 1960s all had their own interpretation of the colour. Aston Martin for instance alternated between a colour similar to PR Avacado and a light metallic green. The same applies to Italian Racing Red ("Corso Rosso"), as typified by Maserati's dark red and Ferrari's brilliant red.
However, the most successful of British sports racers of the period, the Jaguar C-Types and D-Types had a colour very similar to Montblanc's interpretation. IMO, it's not a great colour for a piece of racing machinery (Marina's MG TD is a much nicer colour!), but it could be pretty good as an ink!
Bill
Mar 1 2006, 04:03 PM
QUOTE (krz @ Mar 1 2006, 06:46 AM)
...my little old '67 Austin Healy Sprite...did a little McGuiver mechanics.
..."An MG driver would have towed it in, but the Austin Healy driver always drives it in."

If you owned a British sports car you HAD to be like McGuyver!
After my muscle-car phase, I got into sports cars. I had a 1966 MGB (BRG, of course) that I was underneath more than I was inside. My brother (a Sprite owner who actually survived a high speed roll over in another "B") and I had to pull the engine to replace the flywheel and a couple of seals, especially after I used 6 quarts of oil to go 10 miles!
But the 1964 Triumph TR-4 was the best. If I hit a bump the electrics (lights, instruments) would often go out. I got tired of replacing the headlight switch and instead turned them on by clipping together two aligator clip leads that dangled under the instrument panel. When it rained, my left pant leg got soaked. I carried a piece of plastic in case I was wearing good pants. The trunk (boot) was so damp that hardware on luggage would have surface rust in two days. The heater and the top were so useless that even in cold weather I would use the tonneau cover. My feet were warm and my head icy. I learned the value of a big scarf. I always carried tools and spare parts on trips.
Yet for a period between two marriages, it was my only car (I did have a motorcycle) and I happily drove it daily and even took it on a 2000-mile trip.
And KRZ, I never had one towed, not even the MG ;-)
And to keep the post on topic, I'm going to the "Mont Blanc" store in Orlando today. This green ink is on my shopping list.
Bill
[edited for typo and additional comment]
jeen
Mar 1 2006, 04:57 PM
QUOTE (RichardS @ Mar 1 2006, 10:52 AM)
There never was a standard British Racing Green, as privately-owned racing teams in the 1950s and early 1960s all had their own interpretation of the colour. Aston Martin for instance alternated between a colour similar to PR Avacado and a light metallic green. The same applies to Italian Racing Red ("Corso Rosso"), as typified by Maserati's dark red and Ferrari's brilliant red.
However, the most successful of British sports racers of the period, the Jaguar C-Types and D-Types had a colour very similar to Montblanc's interpretation. IMO, it's not a great colour for a piece of racing machinery (Marina's MG TD is a much nicer colour!), but it could be pretty good as an ink!

Richard,
I stand corrected.
The colors are indeed pretty close!
Very cool. Thanks for showing this fabulous car.
J
RichardS
Mar 1 2006, 05:23 PM
Hi Jeen, nothing to correct, really! BRG can be whatever you want it to be - as long as it's green-ish
And thanks for showing this ink - it may just get me to buy my first MB ink in years; their Black (thin and weak) was enough to turn me off forever. This, however looks great, rather like Noodler's Sequoia, which I like very much.
QUOTE (M4R1N4 @ Mar 1 2006, 06:57 AM)
Good story krz! Do you still have that car?? Pics are always welcome!

No M4R1N4 I sold "Woodstock". After rebuilding just about every thing, and just when I was ready to paint it and put the new top on. It turned into a real voodoo car. I had 6 people hit me in one years time, 2 of them while it was sitting still, once in a parking lot they spun me clean around.
I tried to mend my broken heart with a Honda Del Sol convertable, but it just wasn't the same

.
I don't have pics of mine here , but it looked like this:
QUOTE (Bill @ Mar 1 2006, 04:03 PM)
If you owned a British sports car you HAD to be like McGuyver!
So true Bill!

Oh yes, Lucas electronics (the prince of Darkness).
My fallback machine was a MC too, but since I'm a glutin for punishment my Motorcycle back then was a British Norton Commando '71 :doh:
I've since sold my Harley but kept that Norton
RichardS very true, many shades of Brit. Racing Green.
Bill, where do you get your Montblanc ink at (here in central FLA) ? I think the Office Depots only carry the Blue (which I don't like), but I would like to get some of the Racing Green
M4R1N4
Mar 2 2006, 01:49 AM
Wow, thats very cool krz! Too bad you had some rough luck with it. Thanks for finding the pics though!
Those little British cars are too neato...
Bill
Mar 2 2006, 03:41 AM
QUOTE (krz @ Mar 2 2006, 01:47 AM)
Bill, where do you get your Montblanc ink at (here in central FLA) ?
I bought some today at a tiny luxury pen store called St. Hubert next to Blooomingdale's on the first floor of Mall at Millenia (suggested by JRGMD). The green came from a drawer that appeared to have 12-15 Mont Blanc ink boxes. When I asked for the turquoise, the gentleman in the store pulled an empty out of the drawer but the bottle out of a showcase. Last one. The bottles were $10.40 each.
I wouldn't buy a pen there...MSRP all the way ;-) In fact, I heard my wife gasp aloud when she spotted the price tag on one $1000 pen! She had enough trouble with the Omas pens at Tag Heuer "outlet" store.
A couple of days ago, I bought J. Herbin and Pelikan ink at Pearl Artist Supply on 436 (that you suggested previously). And a glass pen with stand and ink in the gift shop at Castillo de San Marcos in St. Augustine.
We plan to run over to Tampa in the next couple of days (providing we survive tonight's cooking class) and I've already targetted Bills Pen Shop "just in case we happen to be nearby". My wife may be wondering if this is is a pen buying trip or a run to the sun.
Bill
QUOTE (Bill @ Mar 2 2006, 03:41 AM)
My wife may be wondering if this is is a pen buying trip or a run to the sun.
Bill
Thanks for the info Bill. Good luck on your run to the sun!
Bill
Mar 2 2006, 03:28 PM
KRZ,
Caveat emptor! When I later pulled the Mont Blanc ink out of the package I discovered that I had Emerald Green, not the BRG that I asked for. I called the store this morning and the gentleman, who was nice about it, said he didn't know that there was another MB green. I'm glad I didn't ask for Seasons Greetings! At least I got another cool MB bottle ;-)
Bill
QUOTE (Bill @ Mar 2 2006, 03:28 PM)
KRZ,
Caveat emptor! When I later pulled the Mont Blanc ink out of the package I discovered that I had Emerald Green, not the BRG that I asked for.
Drat! Foiled again!

I do love the MB shoe bottles!
Bill
Mar 9 2006, 09:00 PM
Okay, I finally found some "Racing Green" (at Paradise Pen) and have given it a day of testing. Definitely dark, basically a green-black on the thinner Moleskine & clone pages (no feathering nor bleed through), and a nice dark olive on the Ampad pads and Crane ivory stationery I tried.
Thanks for a great review.
And, no, it is not MG green.
Bill
krz
Mar 11 2006, 02:26 AM
QUOTE (Bill @ Mar 9 2006, 09:00 PM)
Okay, I finally found some "Racing Green" (at Paradise Pen) and have given it a day of testing.
Bill, I imagine it handles pretty good!
Bill
Mar 11 2006, 01:15 PM
QUOTE (krz @ Mar 11 2006, 02:26 AM)
QUOTE (Bill @ Mar 9 2006, 09:00 PM)
Okay, I finally found some "Racing Green" (at Paradise Pen) and have given it a day of testing.
Bill, I imagine it handles pretty good!
Aaargh! Couldn't resist, could you.
The review should have said it has good traction on the paper, handles the corners well, and starts and stops quickly.
Bill
blueiris
Nov 28 2006, 04:24 PM
I'm reviving this great review thread to ask a question: does this ink yield good shading? I don't see much shading in Jeen's sample, but I do see some in Bryan's sample--I am wondering if what I'm seeing is my own wishful thinking. I already have an opaque/saturated dark green ink, and at times, it looks like it was written with a felt-tip pen. If Racing Green comes out uniformly and is a saturated ink, I will pass on it.
As a point of comparison, the only inks that I currently own (or have samples of) that show any shading are both by Montblanc: Blue and Sepia. So I wonder whether this Racing Green shares this shading characteristic. Anyone?
eric.zamir
Dec 18 2006, 11:51 AM
Flows great, never feathers, dries fast, and easy to read. Great ink.
Regarding shading, I'll put some in one of my vintage flex pens and see. Wish I could find a nib like that for the Delta!
p-zero
Dec 18 2006, 12:55 PM
Nice writing & nice color! It reminds me of the old (discontinued) Pelikan Moss Green.
Betty
Dec 18 2006, 02:03 PM
Funny this topic came to the top because I decided to try my Racing Green cartridge just over this weekend. I put it in a fine nib pen and it looks exactly like Noodler's Zhivago
helius
Dec 18 2006, 02:30 PM
Has this been discontinued, or are they still available at MB boutiques?
blueiris
Dec 18 2006, 03:16 PM
Eric: thanks so much for the image of your Racing Green! It really helps.
Betty: I don't have Zhivago, but my friend sometimes uses it in a dry-writing dip pen. Now that you mention it, Eric's image of Racing Green reminds me very much of the dipped-Zhivago.
Helius: I saw it about 2 weeks ago at my local Paradise Pen store, and they had at least several bottles of Racing Green. I don't have a MB boutique near me, and I haven't really looked for this ink anywhere else, so I don't really know.
lefty928
Dec 19 2006, 05:51 AM
I picked up a bottle of MontBlanc Racing Green over the weekend at Paradise Pens (nice people at the Arlington, Va., store). Beautiful sample, Eric, and great shading -- thanks. I'm excited to try it once a pen is ready for a refill. (As yet, I've only tried Zhivago with a fine point glass dip pen and it appears black, which thanks to FPN I knew would be the case in advance. Again, once a pen, one with a broader point, frees up...).
rroossinck
Jan 4 2007, 05:32 PM
I picked up a bottle at a retailer here in Des Moines yesterday. Love it!
M4R1N4
Jan 4 2007, 08:06 PM
I have been drooling over this ink since it came out, but I have to ask: Is it very similar to Diamine Umber? Anyone have both of them to give me a comparison?
Thanks in advance!!
eric.zamir
Jan 4 2007, 10:08 PM
QUOTE(M4R1N4 @ Jan 4 2007, 08:06 PM)
I have been drooling over this ink since it came out, but I have to ask: Is it very similar to Diamine Umber? Anyone have both of them to give me a comparison?
Thanks in advance!!
I've also been considering Umber. It would be great if someone could post a writing sample with Zhivago, Sequoia, Avacado, Umber, MB, Jansen Tannengrün, etc. All the mossy greens.
I only have Avacado and MB, and wanted something inbetween - a little greener than MB, but not as bright as Avacado, free flowing and saturated.
sonia_simone
Jan 4 2007, 11:05 PM
Send me a vial of MBRG, of Avacado and the Jansen and I will do this for you.

(I'll even snail you the result so you don't have to go by a scan!) I could throw in Stipula Moss Green, but it's very brown.
Armchop
Jan 7 2007, 09:59 PM
My penny worth - I agree with Marina. <_<
The MB ink is not British Racing Green. The photo of the MG is much more a BRG than in the photo of the Aston Martin. The MB ink is more like just Black-Green IMHO.
Hey Neil B - don't know if you saw it but the Private Reserve Sherwood is superb.
Armchop.
eric.zamir
Jan 7 2007, 10:12 PM
QUOTE(sonia_simone @ Jan 4 2007, 11:05 PM)
Send me a vial of MBRG, of Avacado and the Jansen and I will do this for you.

(I'll even snail you the result so you don't have to go by a scan!) I could throw in Stipula Moss Green, but it's very brown.
I looked in my snails and found the umber, Zhivago and Sequoia. Not for me.
I'm going to stick with Montblanc for the moment. I have no more Jansen, but may go back to it in the future.
Right now, I'm looking for a really blue blue - not a cyan (Penman, PR American Blue, Midnight Blues) blue, and not a washed out (Waterman) or purple (Aurora, PR Black Magic) blue. Something like a more saturated version of Omas Roma 2000 Blue.
That's a tough one.
And another thread.
Not to mention purple. Not burgundy, not reddish purple. Deep, saturated, pure purple. Probably go for PR...
Stephen-I-am
Jan 7 2007, 11:42 PM
Eric, have you tried Visconti blue? Lovely, I think.
Stephen
eric.zamir
Jan 7 2007, 11:45 PM
I suspect I'll pick up a little flask of it at the local shop...
Armchop
Jan 9 2007, 09:58 PM
Me again. Thanks eric.zamir for your photo. With the white balance in the picture showing up the paper colour better than other shots the green comes up nicer so I can see why people like it. I take back my bad vibes!

I know what eric.zamir believes

to be true of Waterman Blue. (Do you mean Blue-Black). I've been using this ink for about 10 years and I use it as a measure of "how good" my new pen aquisitions are. It does depend VERY much upon what pen and nib you use. I cannot write in black and I do not like light or medium blues. What nibs/pens have you tried with it??

My good ones:
Parker Sonnet M nib
Laban Mento B nib
Vintage Parker Duofold Junior M No10 nib
Lamy Al-Star M nib was OK as far as I can remember.
All these three put down a good medium dark wet line. True blue black to my taste. Really dark and saturated. My favourite ink.
However in other pens, even wet nibs, the colour does come washed out and unsaturated. For example these below are terrible in my expereience with the Waterman BB:
Cross Townsend M steel nib
Parker Inflection M nib
Waterman Expert M nib
Sheaffer Prlude M gold nib.
Armchop
eric.zamir
Jan 9 2007, 10:26 PM
Me again. Thanks eric.zamir for your photo.
You can call me Eric...I know what eric.zamir believes

to be true of Waterman Blue. (Do you mean Blue-Black).
I mean blue, and it's not my cup of tea - faded looking. A propos, and also with respect to my post above, I did buy a flask of Visconti Blue. AWESOME.
Now that's a blue ink!!! Not cyan (even though I like American/SS/Penman Sapphire blues), and not purply (even though I like Aurora and Black Magic blues). Just fantastic.
QUOTE(eric.zamir @ Jan 10 2007, 12:26 AM)
I mean blue, and it's not my cup of tea - faded looking. A propos, and also with respect to my post above, I did buy a flask of Visconti Blue. AWESOME.
Now that's a blue ink!!! Not cyan (even though I like American/SS/Penman Sapphire blues), and not purply (even though I like Aurora and Black Magic blues). Just fantastic.
Sorry for hijacking the topic. How does Visconti Blue compare to Omas Roma 2000 Blue in terms of darkness, saturation, flow, etc.?
Thanks in advance. Bye.
kubalai
Jan 11 2007, 09:41 PM
Bryan,
Which pen and nib did you use for the 'sample'?
Regards
Kubalai
eric.zamir
Jan 11 2007, 09:51 PM
QUOTE(L&R @ Jan 9 2007, 11:17 PM)
QUOTE
Sorry for hijacking the topic. How does Visconti Blue compare to Omas Roma 2000 Blue in terms of darkness, saturation, flow, etc.?
very slightly darker and more saturated, same basic color, same great flow, very smooth, silky feel.
Slightly darker, more saturated. Same basic color - between Penman family and Aurora - i.e., blue without green or purple. There probably is some purple in there, but it's imperceptible. Same flow.
eric.zamir
Jan 11 2007, 09:54 PM
I should point out that on my screen, the MB Racing Green has a bluish cast which it does NOT have in fact.
L&R
Jan 11 2007, 10:17 PM
QUOTE(eric.zamir @ Jan 11 2007, 11:51 PM)
Slightly darker, more saturated. Same basic color - between Penman family and Aurora - i.e., blue without green or purple. There probably is some purple in there, but it's imperceptible. Same flow.
Grazie, Eric.
DeaconKC
Sep 17 2008, 12:31 AM
What a rich ink. Easily deep enough for business use and still a rich color. Very good lubrication properties as well. Definitely in the everyday use rotation.
mathmarc
Sep 18 2008, 02:45 PM
Wow, this ink in a Namiki Falcon is beautiful. So many pens, so many inks.... so little time.
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