I ordered a Pelikan XXXXF from Richard Binder. What kind of ink is best suited for such a nib?
I have Noodlers, Omas, Aurora, J. Herbin, Lamy, Waterman, Diamine, Parker.

So far, my finest pen is a Sailor EF, so I decided to get the finest of the fine. Cannot wait!

I think a free flowing ink would be best for that nib. By the way, I wonder if that nib is sharper than a needle.

I think you'll be fine with most inks that work in the Sailor. My go to ink it Lamy Blue and it runs great in my needlepoints.

I surmise that you also want us to share your spirit of anticipation. . . I share it! Nothing like a new XXXXF to get the ink flowing!

(tongue firmly in cheek) I'm tempted to think that with a Binderized XXXXF, it probably won't matter what sort of ink you use; mortal eyes won't even be able to see the stroke that the nib leaves! Only eagles and angels will be able to read it.

Why don't you check with Binder?

Thanks, I'll try the Lamy ink.
I've been reading all those post about the XXXXF for some time and I couldn't resist anymore.

I'm envious.

Use something green, just for me.

Now to go with it, you need to order whatever the most expensive paper made is...but you'll only need one sheet!

Only need one bottle of ink too, it will last 20 years!! Just be careful using permanent ink, if you accidentally stab your self you will have a permanent tattoo! Also, I hope your have a light touch! I've seen stub nibs curled back like a tin can lid, I can just imagine what too much pressure would do to a nib this thin!! Most of all enjoy it and let us know what you think. One day I'll get brave and try one of his XXF nibs.

The Binder 0.1mm XXXXF is indeed an incredible nib... I'd be interested to hear how you go with it.

I use all sorts of inks with my tiny nibs. A free flowing ink is a good suggestion... but that kind of defeats the purpose! I think it's cheating to use a lubricating ink like Rohrer & Klingner to make a XXXXF write like a XXXF.






I'm kidding.

Hehe. Use anything - you can't see much colour anyway!

I have PR Black Magic Blue in my XXXF - it's lubricating but not doesn't make the line any broader than any other ink I use. I found this interesting because in some pens it seems as free-flowing as Tanzanite. I have also used Levenger Cobalt which made a nearly-black but beautifully fine line. I have compared these to some of Laura's writing and feel it's safe to say they don't broaden the line significantly.

I have not used Diamine inks in the nib because they tend to be rather free-flowing and I wanted to get the true feel of the XXXF.

There's a thread on dry-writing inks here somewhere... It might be interesting to use things like MB and J. Herbin in these nibs.

Noodler's Saguaro Wine is very dry writing... and for such a thin line, it's a great ink because it gets a bit concentrated and then the colour kind of pops.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I should have the pen soon and I will be sure to post my comments.

I think if you want to achieve the thinnest hairlines, you ideally want to be working with an ink that has some shading. i.e. the opposite of inks like aurora black. Noodler's Apache Sunset is meant to be pretty good, though I havent tried it. Personally, I'm going through a Noodler's Red-Black phase at the moment...

I've also noticed that paper makes a lot of difference. I can get even thinner hairlines on a slightly toothier paper, as opposed to a smooth Clairefontaine pad.

I'd love to see some writing samples of that nib with a handful of inks.

Would Noodler's eel black be a good match?
I have a feeling I will get the pen tomorrow, it's 5 miles away of my house in the custom warehouse.

I just received my pen! My God, what a nice nib! It's like a dream come true, I always wanted such a nib. I'm writing on the finest bible paper without showing through, bleeding or anything.
I filled it with Diamine Prussian Blue and it's a good mix so far, I will need to experiment.

I ordered a black and green Pelikan 200 and it's pretty retro looking, but I might put my nib in my 1980 something 200 or the new demonstrator.

Richard Binder knows his pen

http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref_info/inks.htm is what Richard has on this topic.

Does anyone have any experience with any Permanent ink solutions -specifically if some of the Bulletproofs are an exception to Richard's guidelines - the Ploar inks or the Legal Lapis or Iraqi vote for instance?

Based on what Richard states in this article, I'm hesitant to even try the Russian (e.g, Pasternak) or the Eternals (Hunter Green) or the BP Blacks.

I'd really appreciate any info especially personal experiences good or bad, on what you've used that's permanent in these real fine nibs.

Right now I'm sticking to Watermans (blue black for the XXXF and Purple for the XXXXF) for these Pens and will probably use Diamines eventually, but the lack of permanence is a disadvantage for me.

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Ken