menick
Feb 28 2008, 03:03 AM
Just received my first pelikan today!
A M205 clear demonstrator with an M nib!
I truly love it!
I hadn't realized that the piston actually screwed "out" when we were filling the pen. I thought that it was just like converters, it would screw "in place"...
But in a way, I understand you can force it just enough so it would spill ink out accidentally.
And a quick question, apart from removing the nib... is there a way to get all the ink out (or water out) to change color?
Thanks
nick
jmkeuning
Feb 28 2008, 03:58 AM
You are going to have to remove the nib. But don't worry, there is no harm in this, and I do it quite regularly.
You will notice this: the plastic in the section has two layers that are laminated to each other. Ink will get caught in between them. It will appear to be impossible to remove. But, just soak the pen and shake out the water, over and over again. Eventually, the color will dilute, and eventually it will be totally gone!
Also, if you get ink in the cap, rinse it out ASAP.
ethernautrix
Feb 28 2008, 04:28 AM
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But, just soak the pen and shake out the water, over and over again.
But take care when shaking. I've bashed in a few nibs doing this. Now I cover the nib and sortv wrap the pen in a paper towel so that I can hold the pen near the nib in a more protective grasp before shaking. This technique also helps prevent splattering of ink.
I really like my Pelikans. Nice choice!
MaxP
Feb 28 2008, 05:14 AM
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QUOTE(jmkeuning @ Feb 27 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]528671[/snapback]
But, just soak the pen and shake out the water, over and over again.
But take care when shaking. I've bashed in a few nibs doing this. Now I cover the nib and sortv wrap the pen in a paper towel so that I can hold the pen near the nib in a more protective grasp before shaking. This technique also helps prevent splattering of ink.
I really like my Pelikans. Nice choice!
Amen to that! I bent the nib on my Duofold the othre night whn it hit the sink.
Max
Keng
Feb 28 2008, 05:41 AM
Apart from removing the nib, the only altenative is to pump in, dilute and expel the ink manually with the piston filler. silghtly more troublesome I suppose.
Anyway, great choice to get a Pelikan demonstrator. It looks great particilarly kool with brightly colored ink sloshing around in the barrel
Mike
savarez
Feb 28 2008, 05:45 AM
QUOTE(menick @ Feb 27 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]528601[/snapback]
A M205 clear demonstrator with an M nib!
Gratz. I have the amber demonstrator and am very happy with it. Good choice, man!
jmkeuning
Feb 28 2008, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(jmkeuning @ Feb 27 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]528671[/snapback]
But, just soak the pen and shake out the water, over and over again.
But take care when shaking. I've bashed in a few nibs doing this. Now I cover the nib and sortv wrap the pen in a paper towel so that I can hold the pen near the nib in a more protective grasp before shaking. This technique also helps prevent splattering of ink.
I really like my Pelikans. Nice choice!
The nib is not in the pen during all of this. However, you should be very careful when shaking a pen. It's always serious business. . . you can either smack the table with the pen, or the pen can fly out of your hand. . . I suppose a nib could even fly out! So, wrapping the pen in something is a good idea. If you use paper towel, realize that it is not a failsafe as the water will degrade the paper.
JDFlood
Feb 28 2008, 08:30 PM
I just draw water into and out of the pen until it is beginning to look very dilute. Then take a couple Kleenex, crumple them up and lean the pen, nib down in the middle of the kleenex. The capilary action will suck the pen dry pretty quick. The you can avoid flinging ink all over the place, or the famous Splicer trick of letting go mid-swing and flatteing the nib on a wall or the floor. I usually let it dry over night, but I imagine most of the mosture is removed in a couple minutes at most.
JD
jmkeuning
Feb 28 2008, 08:53 PM
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I just draw water into and out of the pen until it is beginning to look very dilute. Then take a couple Kleenex, crumple them up and lean the pen, nib down in the middle of the kleenex. The capilary action will suck the pen dry pretty quick. The you can avoid flinging ink all over the place, or the famous Splicer trick of letting go mid-swing and flatteing the nib on a wall or the floor. I usually let it dry over night, but I imagine most of the mosture is removed in a couple minutes at most.
JD
This will not get the job with the M205. Ink will be trapped between the layers plastic in the section.
menick
Feb 28 2008, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(JDFlood @ Feb 28 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]529346[/snapback]
I just draw water into and out of the pen until it is beginning to look very dilute. Then take a couple Kleenex, crumple them up and lean the pen, nib down in the middle of the kleenex. The capilary action will suck the pen dry pretty quick. The you can avoid flinging ink all over the place, or the famous Splicer trick of letting go mid-swing and flatteing the nib on a wall or the floor. I usually let it dry over night, but I imagine most of the mosture is removed in a couple minutes at most.
JD
This will not get the job with the M205. Ink will be trapped between the layers plastic in the section.
When you say this will not work for the 205... you mean that the two plastic layers are a characteristic of the 205, and not the rest of the 200 series?
jmkeuning
Mar 2 2008, 05:35 AM
I mean that you will never know with the rest of the 200 series because you cannot see through them!
menick
Mar 3 2008, 02:18 AM
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I mean that you will never know with the rest of the 200 series because you cannot see through them!
Thinking about it... it was a dumb question!
jmkeuning
Mar 3 2008, 02:36 AM
Well, not really. If the amount of ink trapped in there is substantial, it would be nice to know if all M200s have this problem. . . You would not want an old load of ink discoloring a new one.
However, after one flush, the amount of ink in there is minimal.
guitarman19853
Mar 3 2008, 03:58 PM
QUOTE(jmkeuning @ Feb 27 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]528671[/snapback]
You will notice this: the plastic in the section has two layers that are laminated to each other. Ink will get caught in between them. It will appear to be impossible to remove. But, just soak the pen and shake out the water, over and over again. Eventually, the color will dilute, and eventually it will be totally gone!
Do you just soak the lower half of the pen to get the trapped ink out? I wouldnt think submerging the whole pen would be good...
Also, how can you get ink out of the laminated layers of the cap?
jmkeuning
Mar 3 2008, 04:48 PM
Yes, I soak the lower half. I remove the nib, put the pen in the water head first, and then suck up some water with the piston. Then I let it sit.
As for the cap, I have not gotten ink in there. I rinse the cap anytime I see any ink, but this has been infrequent. If I ever see ink in between the plastic I will do the same thing. You might worry about rust with the metal that is in there, but I would just be sure to dry the pen well.
menick
Mar 4 2008, 01:58 AM
Out of curiosity, anyone knows if they did clear demo of any other models?
I've seen colored demos of M800 I think, but do not remember clear demos.
nick
frotz
Mar 4 2008, 07:02 AM
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QUOTE(jmkeuning @ Feb 27 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]528671[/snapback]
You will notice this: the plastic in the section has two layers that are laminated to each other. Ink will get caught in between them. It will appear to be impossible to remove. But, just soak the pen and shake out the water, over and over again. Eventually, the color will dilute, and eventually it will be totally gone!
Do you just soak the lower half of the pen to get the trapped ink out? I wouldnt think submerging the whole pen would be good...
Also, how can you get ink out of the laminated layers of the cap?
Look at
this thread to see how to get the ink out of the cap. It's very easy.
jmkeuning
Mar 4 2008, 12:43 PM
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Out of curiosity, anyone knows if they did clear demo of any other models?
I've seen colored demos of M800 I think, but do not remember clear demos.
nick
There is a blue M600 demo. But no clear.
piembi
Mar 7 2008, 02:32 PM
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But take care when shaking. I've bashed in a few nibs doing this.
Had a desastrous experience with a Parker 51 Demi: I struck the pen against something while trying to get the water out of it. The aerometric filling system broke and the Parker 51 is junk.
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