Hi Everyone

Diamine are bringing out as specials 10 maybe 12 new colours, what new shades would you like to see any suggestions ?

Thanks

Phil

A few more different shades of green would be very tempting!!!
Not too impressed with the New Century Jade Green though.

There are SO many colors already and I haven't tried New Century colors yet. There will be even more???

Phil, do you work for Diamine?

Hi There

Yes, i work for Diamine, i am the one who makes all the ink

Phil

Thanks, Phil and welcome to FPN! It's nice to have a direct line of communication.

OK, I just looked at the current lineup...how about another purple/violet? Personally I would like to see something light like Noodler's Concord Bream. However, I can't stand the feathering. So, I would like to see something like that sans feathering

How about a response to Noodler's Baystate Blue, only not so difficult to deal with?

An iron-gall ink in a colour other than blue-black (like Rohrer & Klingner's Scabiosa) would be very interesting. I'd also love a cool grey-brown.

Same here! I'd like to see that too.

Yes, a nice bright 'pure' 'Emerald' Green would be very acceptable....the existing ones seem to have a bit too much yellow or grey/brown. But I have to admit to not having tried them personally.

I do have a bott of Imperial Purple which I think is beautiful and very pen-friendly....it's only a bit 'dark/saturated' in very wet pens.

I'd like a really light & vibrant turquoise. One that can be made to disappear in a photocopier if necessary... The one I use at the moment is a 50-50 diluted Pelikan Turquoise, but the colour is a bit flat & lifeless. The diluted Pelikan has saved my bacon though - I was able to photocopy away some rude comments I'd written about the person I was sending the document to. I'll never do that again, but it has solidified the idea into a requirement for me!

I find the Diamine Turquoise quite dark at the moment, but I haven't tried diluting it yet.

In the early 1990's I bought a Diamine Turquoise caligraphy ink (Well, I think it was Diamine as the phone number was Liverpool code, and the bottle shape was similar to the YOL bottle). That was a gorgeous colour. Unfortunately I used it in an FP for a couple of months & glued up the inside of the pen. Later the bottle glued itself shut with a white rubber like material & I had to chuck it. Now, if that could be made FP compatible I'd be on

Regards

Richard.

Oh my ... I love Diamine's colors already (I especially like that they are not washed out looking). My biggest problem is that I already have troulble deciding which colors to use - adding another 10 or so will only complicate my life more

I too would like to see a brilliant blue like Noodlers Bay State, but with the properties of Diamine's well behaved inks.

Todd

Hi Phil,

You do have a greta number of great colours already. For my money the ones that I would love you to do are:

Green - one that is more like Parker Penman Emerald - a true green that is a bit darker. I found Umber having too much blue feel underlying it.

Purple - a lovely deep dark purple ( darker than Caran d'ache Storm or Herbin Poussiere de Lune but along similar lines

Thanks for asking our opinions

Cheers

Hello

Yes, we do manufacture lots of shades, this is mainly my fault !! ever since i was a child i always had a strong interest in colours as luck would have it i now
get to make new ones everyday

Thank you for your input Re Green ink, this is not the first post on this colour and i now see it as a contender for my 12 along with a blue
As for the purple have you tried the imperial purple ?

Regards

Phil

I would buy that by the tankerful.

Please make something with that depth.

It's a bit like the fact that while I like Diamine Saddle Brown, when I use it and then switch to FPN Galilieo Manuscript Brown the Diamine just seems watery.

Soz, but it's pretty well the only thing that stops me from being a user of Diamine exclusively. The Noodler's has more depth of character and just seems more luxurious. When I open a bottle of Noodler's and have a peek inside it's breathtaking, Diamine doesn't have that effect on me.

Please don't hate me...

A bright but fairly deep, non-watery, true blue - along the lines of Noodler's Baystate but not quite as garish and with some shading, and without Baystat's flaws (as described on fpn at length) if such a thing is possible. Thanks for asking!

Simon

Along these lines, I'd like an elegant Blue Iris color I like the natural shading effect of fountain pen ink; I'm not fond of anything too saturated-looking or garishly bright. The color I have in mind is not pale/pastel--it would still be dark enough to read and not overly feminine.

Hello Phil,

How kind of you to solicit suggestions! I'm a great admirer or Diamine inks.

I'm also a great admirer of vintage Sheaffer products, so it occurs to me that it might be worthwhile to consider colors inspired by some of the old Skrip colors that are no longer available: Burgundy, for one, or King's Gold.

I would also love to see Diamine take a stab at a recreation of Skrip Persian Rose. Yes, I know we have a total of three current-production inks intended to emulate PR, but (to my eye at least) they don't quite capture it: the original is at once more intense and more limpid. Besides, it would be lovely to have a non-super-saturated PR "clone" (i.e., non-Noodler's. non-Private Reserve).

Thanks again! Whatever shades those new inks turn out to be, I'm certain to be acquiring some of them.

Cheers,

Jon

In keeping with Jon's theme - a precise replica (sans the perceived problems - though I don't have 'em) of Penman Emerald would absolutely make my day. Penman Emerald with Diamine quality. Lovely daydream.

Diamine Blues already overwhelm me but the Baystate thing is intriguing.

The Persian Rose thing is also interesting and I agree it should have the beautiful shading characteristics that many Diamine inks have rather than being highly saturated.

I second the Persian Rose.

As for greens, I have the New Century Jade, and it's kind of fun as a novelty, and you can use it to
highlight.

I'd second the dark greyish brown as well. I have Saddle Brown, but haven't tried it yet.

Penman colors that have the pen-friendly characteristics of Diamine inks would be fantastic. I'd be happy to donate a vial each of Ruby and Sapphire if that would help. Send a PM if you are interested.

Hi Phil, it's wonderful that you're asking what we'd like here on FPN!

I would be so grateful if you could make an ink the color of this one: Noodler's Emerald City Green (my favorite shade of green.) The drying time on most Noodler's inks tends to be too slow for me to use without smearing. Most of the Diamine inks I can use. I really like the new Diamine Coral.

Thanks for all the inks you've made,
Ann

Hi Everyone,

I would like to thank everyone who has kindly replyed to my post it is great to have contact with people as interested in
fountain pen ink as me

I will begin today to compile all the ink colours you have on your wish lists and see what i can do, i must admit though the colours choosen all highly appear to be very saturated or pigmented !!
In order for me to explore these colours properly i would ask a favour, would it be possible to send me an actual colour swatch in the post ? even the best scans tend to be inaccurate and do not do the inks justice.
If you want to post it to me my address is as follows ...

Diamine - Speciality Inks Ltd
30 Farriers Way
Industrial Estate
Liverpool
L30 4XL

Thanks Again

Phil

Dear Phil,

You have really started something here I think. Diamine inks have a loyal following and have grown in popularity here if the number of mentions is anything to go by. It seems that once you try one, you have to keep on, and on, adding to the collections, and now we have to chance to request "custom colours" or at least to suggest the direction your ink-making might like to go in.

I, and many others, await further news... do call up now and then to tell us how things are going.

Chris

I love Diamine Inks, and have several! What I'd love to see is a wonderful dark red (darker than Monaco), and a dark brown with a shaded antique-looking quality--like what you'd see in writing on stationary/documents of the early-mid 19th century.

Best wishes in your developments.

Jared

I'd be happy to send some Penman Emerald in a securely sealed package. It is quite saturated but I sometimes dilute mine a bit. Not just because I want to make my stash last but also because it is lovely both saturated and with a little shading to it. A *color* match would make me happy - if it's saturation I want, I can always condense. Though the opposite is true as well, making a saturated ink that can easily be diluted seems to be quite "doable."

Some have tried to duplicate it. Actually, I came very close by adding a teeny tiny itsy bitsy drop of Noodler's WP black to Diamine Woodland Green. The only problem was it didn't have the lubrication properties of Penman. That may be harder to come by given that some of the chemicals are on the no-no list nowdays. So I'm told, anyway. I sometimes wonder if that's just an excuse. hmph!

I do wonder - can an ink be tested in a liquid chromatography sort of way. I may not be saying that clearly - in the lab we had various tests for proteins that created subtle color differences in a diluted sample. A machine then read the samples and measured them in a way that allowed us to calculate the amount of protein in the dilution, thereby determining the amount of protein in the original sample. Can dye be measured in a similar way such that recreating something like Penman Inks doesn't rely on the human eye getting it right? We all see color differently. Some people see Umber and see grey-green (me) while others see "plain ol' forest green" (WHA??? Crazy! )

Just wonderin'.

Welcome to the boards


I would really like to see a darker (more black) version fo the diamine registrar's ink. In a bigger bottle if at all possible please



Thank you very much


Mame

Hi Phil,

I've been away from FPN for a bit and have just seen your posts. It's great to have you hear. I'm a big fan of quite a few of those inks you've made and think you're doing an excellent job. If you need actual ink samples in a vial of any of the ones mentioned, just send me a PM and I'll do what I can to make sure you get them.

Thanks again,
Michael

A swatch of blue is headed your way in the post as of this morning...

Hi Phil, some thoughts:

DEEP REDS: Monaco Red is stupendous, but maybe try a deep red that falls on the other side of red (in other words not a slightly-yellowish red, but a slightly-bluish red). But still red. I was so surprised to see such a saturated ink (Monaco) have such operability! The call for a deep dark red would also be nice, I think it's missing from your canon (ala Noodler's Tiananmen, PR Fiesta Red)...

UNIQUE SHADING: What really has my curiosity is China Blue -- no one's talked about here yet, and I haven't been bold enough to buy it, but from multiple merchant scans, it looks like it's a pale blue THAT SHADES PINK! Is this true? If you have accomplished this, I would aim for more inks like this but with different hues. (greys that shade green? yellows that shade red? pinks that shade blue? tans that shade blue?) It is my opinion that shading is a quality that is likely to lead to a memorable ink, and has instant "wow value", esp with a flexible nib.

OPERABILITY: Saturated ink is great, but it seems that people keep coming back to Diamine inks due to the superior operability. I think if you keep that up, and avoid making too many more magentas, you'll grab even more peoples' hearts. Don't sacrifice the operability, please!

Cheers to you, I'm so glad to hear that you're having fun!!

Vials of Penman Ruby and Sapphire will be shipped this afternoon.

Hi Phil,

How about an ink that, after it's dried on the paper (rather quickly), it still looks wet - nice and shiny!

Take care,
Michael

Welcome to FPN!

I would also be interested in seeing a dark ruby red. I currently only have one Diamine ink (Mediterranian Blue), but I would love to have more. I think the bottles are very beautiful.

I'd add my vote for:

Well-behaved Bay State Blue (is the Washable Blue already that?) -- a bright, royal blue, a smidge brighter than a Pilot G2 blue rollerball.

Dead on "red" -- slightly brighter than Waterman Red, but no orange or pink whatsoever.

Bright "green" -- like a Pilot G2 green. A true green -- not brown, not antique, not yellow, no blue, etc. -- but bright.

Hi Phil,

Back in 2005, I ordered a few bottles of Diamine Tropical Blue that was made for the Florida Pen Show a year earlier. I really love this shade of blue very much. I take it that this ink was reissued as "Florida Blue?"

The other day, I ordered a bottle of Diamine Mediterranian Blue, from Sam at Pendemonium. It will be really interesting to see how this ink looks on paper. I always like to try out a new shade of blue ink.

Please keep up the the excellent work in Liverpool!

Phil - thank you so much for posting here to solicit preferences...

My personal wish lists are:

Subdued, dark and contemplative purple with a little gray
Bright purple/plum that leans more towards red than blue undertones (my personal ideal is the Pilot G-2 gel pen purple)
Dark and sophisticated green that is "office friendly" leaning more toward yellow undertone than blue.
and
There's never too many shades of blues!

I think you'll like it if you like blues in general - to me this is a vibrant blue but not overly saturated. Of course, my pens are all very wet writers. It might look a little dull in a dry nib.

Excellent to see you getting on the case Phil!

To give you an idea, I have ordered 12 bottles of Baystate today because due to the problems I can see Noodler's pulling it from the market and I want to have a decent supply in.

Incidentally I have recently inked a Stipula Vedo 1.1mm Italic with your Imperial Blue and it is gaining favour (currently I have 14 flavours of Diamine and will probably be looking to expand that should some good new colours join the stable).

Thanks for generating this thread.

IANAN

And I thought I was nuts to buy 3 bottles of Baystate. Yeesh...

It's nice on pancakes.

I add my thanks for asking for suggestions. Like Katia, I'd love a dark, very dark purple (darker than Caran d'Ache Storm and with the Diamine translucency) and more toward the gray and blue side than the red.

Don't know if it's possible, but in throwing in with the wish for a dark red, I'm thinking of a very dark but pure red, a garnet color, without a brownish tint and yes, maybe slightly toward the blueish side.

Just to play, maybe a dark blue green like PR Blue Suede or Noodler's Turquoise?

I'm a big fan of Diamine's Prussian Blue and mean to try Indigo one of these days, but welcome the opportunity to throw out some ideas for new colors. Looks like I now want the best of both worlds, dark color, but shading. Hmmm, that explains why I'm using certain inks more nowadays and others less. I'm so fickle.

I'm not sure that Diamine would "copy" another brand's ink color (colour) only to give it their own name. I'd rather see Diamine come out with some "test" colors that we'd be glad to give feedback on. A one-sheet paper of test ink color swabs would be ideal, and I'd love to give my feedback on those.

Jared

Rerelease tropical blue?

Or a Green similar to the US dollar bill green?

Or a true turquoise?

I would be nice, to have Diamine Tropical Blue available in Europe.

And perhaps something similar to long gone Omas Roma. Intensive, with just a hint of violet.

I'd quite like a distinctive turquoise green - much less green than the current Blue Steel, closer to a true turquoise, but still with greenish tones.

Today I received a snail written in BSB. I WANT THAT COLOR, please!!!

Now I am craving "Bay State Blueberry Pancakes" for breakfast.

Phil - I really like the 2004 Presidential Blue. I do not know if the Presidential Blue is the same or not. However, I do not seem to be able to get Pres. Blue any more (USA East Coast - MidAtlantic). I cleaned out the local B&M store of it for fear of not having access to it. I'd buy it if I could find it. If you have stopped making it, why? The tank's getting low.

Hi There,

I can confirm that the current Preidential Blue found in our New Century Range is identical to the 2004.

May i ask which area you live in ? i will contact our US distributor and see if i can point you in the right direction.

Kind Regards

Phil

Where do you get your Noodler's from?

It's kinda hard to get in the UK, apart from The Writing Desk.....

I like the fact that you can now buy the current full range of Diamine inks in smaller 30ml plastic bottles. Its a great way to have a load without busting the bank! I've Just put in an order for some.