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Ginnievere
Hi All,

I'm a college student looking to buy (invest in?) a new fountain pen. I've been writing with fountain pens for about 7-8 years now. My first pen was a cheap pen that I absolutely loved at the time, but looking back, it's not something that I'd like to write with again (not that I could tell you the brand anyway since I haven't used it in probably three years). The pen I'm currently using was another gift that my roommate brought back for me from China. It says that it's a Hero 278A, although the roommate says it could be a knockoff. I love this pen, but I'd really like to have another fountain pen, mainly because I'd like to be able to use more than one color of ink at a time. I'd really appreciate any suggestions you all can give me.

Here are important factors for me:
    1. It has to either only use bottled ink or have a converter available (I'm not opposed to buying the converter separately, though).
    2. I'd like to stay under $30 or $35
    3. I have extremely small handwriting, and so I need something where my writing wont smudge together. Does that mean that I'm looking for a fine nib? Or Extra Fine? Or will some mediums be okay?
    4. Weight doesn't particularly bother me, nor does length, but (I think because of my small handwriting), I'd like a really small barrel size (or at least a small circumference down where I place my fingers). At the same time, I'd like something that holds as much ink as possible since I use my fountain pen for all of my writing. I realize that having these two things together might be impossible, and I'd take small barrel size over large ink capacity.
    5. I don't care over much about looks but I'd like something sleek looking if at all possible. It's the least important aspect for me.

Some pens that I've looked at include the Lamy Safari (actually I'd probably get the Vista because, well, it's pretty), the Kaweco Sport Classic, the Pelikano (but can I get these with a fine nib?), and the Pelikan Future. But, again, I'm open to any other suggestions as well. I'm also open to another Hero if it's not too expensive, but where do I find them for sale?

Thanks in advance for any help!
~Ginnie
ilubiano
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Hi All,

I'm a college student looking to buy (invest in?) a new fountain pen. I've been writing with fountain pens for about 7-8 years now. My first pen was a cheap pen that I absolutely loved at the time, but looking back, it's not something that I'd like to write with again (not that I could tell you the brand anyway since I haven't used it in probably three years). The pen I'm currently using was another gift that my roommate brought back for me from China. It says that it's a Hero 278A, although the roommate says it could be a knockoff. I love this pen, but I'd really like to have another fountain pen, mainly because I'd like to be able to use more than one color of ink at a time. I'd really appreciate any suggestions you all can give me.

Also, if you're interested in another hero, or some other good chinese pens, check out isellpens.com, or hisnibs.com, both provide chinese pens, that i can remember off the top of my head. I bought a Wing Sung #235 from isellpens that's been a surprisingly smooth and more surprisingly semi-flexy writer for less than 10 dollars.

Here are important factors for me:
    1. It has to either only use bottled ink or have a converter available (I'm not opposed to buying the converter separately, though).
    2. I'd like to stay under $30 or $35
    3. I have extremely small handwriting, and so I need something where my writing wont smudge together. Does that mean that I'm looking for a fine nib? Or Extra Fine? Or will some mediums be okay?
    4. Weight doesn't particularly bother me, nor does length, but (I think because of my small handwriting), I'd like a really small barrel size (or at least a small circumference down where I place my fingers). At the same time, I'd like something that holds as much ink as possible since I use my fountain pen for all of my writing. I realize that having these two things together might be impossible, and I'd take small barrel size over large ink capacity.
    5. I don't care over much about looks but I'd like something sleek looking if at all possible. It's the least important aspect for me.
Some pens that I've looked at include the Lamy Safari (actually I'd probably get the Vista because, well, it's pretty), the Kaweco Sport Classic, the Pelikano (but can I get these with a fine nib?), and the Pelikan Future. But, again, I'm open to any other suggestions as well. I'm also open to another Hero if it's not too expensive, but where do I find them for sale?

Thanks in advance for any help!
~Ginnie


It sounds to me like you are looking for a Lamy Al Star. They fit your criteria for the most part, i think. I don't personally own one, but have used one, and they're pretty well recommended around here. The only thing that might not go over 100% with you is the section, which is what the place where you hold the pen is called, isn't exactly thin, or even conventional, but it does use a converter and it comes in fine or extra fine nibs.

This was the first one that came to me. There are loads of others though, and the FPNers will surely recommend you a bevy, that it might be hard to choose from so many options. lticaptd.gif
asamsky
The Lamy is extremely tough and a nice writer. Many people swear by the Hero pens, and if you're looking to get something interesting for under $30 they're right in your price range. You might consider:

- Hero 327-I Accountant Pen. This is not the most beautiful pen out there, but it has a shockingly smooth XXF nib and is indestructible as far as I can tell. Plus it's a squeeze-fill converter, AND it's usually well under $10.

- Hero 329. This is a Parker knock-off, but it's a great writer and very reliable. Also a squeeze fill. You can get two for $30.

- The Waterman Phileas has many admirers on the board and you can probably find it for around your price range if you're willing to look.

- You might check the For Sale section of the FPN boards. There are lots of restored vintage pens for sale there in your price range, if you want to go in that direction (but be wary of sales from members with very few posts, obvy).

If you go up to around $50 the choices get more interesting. You might check http://onebeagle.net/oscarbraun/ , they have some Lamy's for not much more than $35, and Pam Braun has a great reputation. I don't think any of these pens you or ilubiano mentioned would be a bad choice.
patrickrhone
How about a Pilot Prera. I am relative pen noob and I love these. Super fine line, smooth writers and they hold a fair bit of ink. Very light and small when capped so you barely notice it is in your pocket. I have two of these and will likely get a third sometime in the near future,
Escribiente
You might want to consider a Wality 69 (eyedropper or piston filler); it'll set you back around $20 (shipped). It's a pen with ebonite feeder which writes with a narrow, dark line.
lefty928
A very thorough list!

I agree with all the recommendations given so far -- and the Future also seems a good choice, but I'm not sure if the nib runs wide or not. You can find Heroes at www.isellpens.com and www.hisnibs.com and there are a couple vendors who sell Preras online. [Oops! didn't notice that I am repeating earlier advice, sorry,] As for the nib width, you'll figure that out as you go along. I have small handwriting (usually) and like fines and extra fines, but can work with wider nibs. I'm not sure what you define as a really small barrel size -- I think of all the pens listed so far as having a normal barrel size, thank goodness, except the Lamy might feel a little wider because of the facets. I agree, the Vistas are pretty and you can get an EF nib (my Lamy Safari F nib now seems a little wide to me, but then, I like Japanese fines. It's smooth, though, and sturdy. And the Safari/Vista is a tough workhorse pen that I often use a "purse pen." Feels to me on the larger size in hand, but I don't go for honking big pens.). The cartridges are generous, also. If you try the "new style" Hero 329 or Accountant (check the prices at www.isellpens.com; very inexpensive), you'll probably have enough left over to also try a Pilot 78-G, which also has a squeeze converter. Probably holds quite a bit more than a twist converter, as stated, but I personally like to see how much ink is left inside. The medium nib seems to me to be similar to a Phileas F.
Vipersdad
I use two Lamy's at work at school. A Yellow Safari with Waterman Blue/Black and a Vista with Waterman red. I recently bought a Pelikan 600 for my son's 30th birthday and when he was visiting this weekend he really liked the Vista with the red ink in the converter. He really likes the Pelikan but the clear Vista got his attention.

Vipersdad
theblackpen
Hi!
If you write really small,you might consider a japanese fine nib.Here are a few options,all in your price range.http://ujuku.jpn.ph/KAIMONO/penframe.htm No affiliation.
Pilot Prera
Pilot Young Rex
Platinum Balance
Platinum Standard.
The Prera got some nice reviews.I had one but I found it to small for my hand and gave it to my sister.The Pelikan Pelikano F nib writes more of a medium fine line.So does my Lamy Al-Star F.
Good luck with your choice and welcome to the FPN! thumbup.gif
Mihai
P.S. Almost forgot the Pilot 78G-12 $ at isellpens.com-No affiliation.
EventHorizon
Well, the above options cover what you are looking for so I'll just say WELCOME to FPN!!
SquelchB
Perhaps Parker 45 could be something you might be interested in. I have the old version from some 60's and I love it.
Ginnievere
Wow, thanks for all the advice. Now I think the hardest part is going to be making a decision!

Truly, thank you all for being so helpful. I think I'm going to like it here biggrin.gif .
drgonzo2
Hi Ginnievere, welcome to the forum!

Just to throw my 2c. in to the mix, while it may be above the price point you mention, a Cleo Skribent Chiffre 05 hits pretty much all of the points you were looking for. It's a long, sleek pen which is a piston filler - pretty prodigious ink capacity. I don't know if their available in the us with the EF nib, but I have seen some european dealers selling them so equipped (possibly a custom nib?)

Otherwise, have a look at isellpens.com, Todd's reputation for service is exellent & he has a very wide range available, including a wide variety of Hero pens.

Just a thought... Gareth
kudzu
Hi, Ginnievere - did the Hero pens I sent ever arrive? cool.gif

Have fun with them!
Kudzu
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