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Tournevis
First mini-review. Could not colour-correct the image perfectly, but it's close.
bdngrd
Thanks for the review. I like this ink as well, it has a subtle, unique quality.
Fox in the Stars
I recently got a bottle each of Lie de The and Cafe des Iles, and I just love the Lie de The! In person it doesn't actually look greenish to me so much as it's the only brown FP ink I've seen that doesn't look reddish.
Tournevis
QUOTE(Fox in the Stars @ Jan 6 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]469916[/snapback]
I recently got a bottle each of Lie de The and Cafe des Iles, and I just love the Lie de The! In person it doesn't actually look greenish to me so much as it's the only brown FP ink I've seen that doesn't look reddish.


That's what I like the most, the lack of red.
Ghost Plane
I'm another fan.
RedRob
Sailor brown also seems to be lacking in red - which I also happen to like. A nice, if not very saturated brown.
AndrewW
Are you sure this is really Lie de Thé? I have a bottle of it and it looks nothing like this - just a nice, medium to dark brown. This looks very much like the Vert Olive... I'm wondering whether you have a mis-labelled or dud bottle.
skipwilliams
I agree. Your sample looks very close to Vert Olive......my bottle of Lie de The is really a nice medium dark, true brown, no greenish overtones.

Skip

QUOTE(AndrewW @ Jan 7 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]470415[/snapback]
Are you sure this is really Lie de Thé? I have a bottle of it and it looks nothing like this - just a nice, medium to dark brown. This looks very much like the Vert Olive... I'm wondering whether you have a mis-labelled or dud bottle.

Jared
QUOTE(Tournevis @ Jan 6 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]469796[/snapback]
First mini-review. Could not colour-correct the image perfectly, but it's close.


I agree that what you're using looks more Olive than what I have. My Lie de Thé looks more like what is shown in Hana's review of this excellent ink.

Jared
Tournevis
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QUOTE(Tournevis @ Jan 6 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]469796[/snapback]
First mini-review. Could not colour-correct the image perfectly, but it's close.


I agree that what you're using looks more Olive than what I have. My Lie de Thé looks more like what is shown in Hana's review of this excellent ink.

Jared


So does mine. Mine is browner than the scan, but I could not correct the scan. Let me try with another scanner.
Tournevis
Here is a much better scan with the right colour correction.

Jared
QUOTE(Tournevis @ Jan 7 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]470579[/snapback]
Here is a much better scan with the right colour correction.


Much better!

Jared
FrankB
I think I can understand why the Lie de The doesn't scan well. Who knows how many colors the Herbin folks had to blend to get this color. It is a lovely color in person, though. I switch back and forth between Lie de The and Cafe des Iles in my pen rotation as I like both browns almost equally well. - Cacao du Bresil on the other hand looks to me like used motor oil.

Edited: I forgot to thank you for a good review.
handlebar
Great.Just what i need,another brown/green ink!! Thanks for the review.I will be ordering some of that soon.

Jim
Tournevis
QUOTE(FrankB @ Jan 9 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]472705[/snapback]
I think I can understand why the Lie de The doesn't scan well. Who knows how many colors the Herbin folks had to blend to get this color. It is a lovely color in person, though. I switch back and forth between Lie de The and Cafe des Iles in my pen rotation as I like both browns almost equally well. - Cacao du Bresil on the other hand looks to me like used motor oil.

Edited: I forgot to thank you for a good review.


Thanks. I see at least three shades in there, two greens and a brown so a lot of colour in this ink.

jbn10161
QUOTE(FrankB @ Jan 9 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]472705[/snapback]
Cacao du Bresil on the other hand looks to me like used motor oil.
Hmmm.... That sounds intriguing. Perhaps I do "need" another ink after all.
AndrewW
Scan number 2 is spot on! I haven't experimented very widely with browns, but this is the one I always seem to come back to. I agree with the comments about Cacao du Bresil - though I'd say it looks more like milky cocoa (the point of the name?). In any case, it is a dull greyish colour, and I rarely go back to it.
Ghost Plane
Au contraire. I keep Bresil in my stable along with the others. Out of a B nib Visconti it gives an almost archival look to my writing. As if words flowing off the nib were written long before my birth. Neat effect/shading.
Neill78
QUOTE(skipwilliams @ Jan 7 2008, 07:21 AM) [snapback]470431[/snapback]
I agree. Your sample looks very close to Vert Olive......my bottle of Lie de The is really a nice medium dark, true brown, no greenish overtones.

Skip

QUOTE(AndrewW @ Jan 7 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]470415[/snapback]
Are you sure this is really Lie de Thé? I have a bottle of it and it looks nothing like this - just a nice, medium to dark brown. This looks very much like the Vert Olive... I'm wondering whether you have a mis-labelled or dud bottle.



My Lie de Thé looks exactly like the poster's, with very slight greenish overtones.

Neill
simonrob
QUOTE(skipwilliams @ Jan 7 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]470431[/snapback]
I agree. Your sample looks very close to Vert Olive......my bottle of Lie de The is really a nice medium dark, true brown, no greenish overtones.

Skip

QUOTE(AndrewW @ Jan 7 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]470415[/snapback]
Are you sure this is really Lie de Thé? I have a bottle of it and it looks nothing like this - just a nice, medium to dark brown. This looks very much like the Vert Olive... I'm wondering whether you have a mis-labelled or dud bottle.



I decided I wanted to try this ink based on the colour as it appears on Herbin's site - http://www.jherbin.com/fountain_pen_inks.shtml - the box itself, and other samples I've seen at vendors online. The first bottle I bought had so much olive green in its make-up (a perfectly fine colour, I suppose, but not what I wanted) that I bought another from a store hundreds of miles from the first, hoping it would be from a different batch. Whether it is or not I can't say, but it's exactly the greenish brown as the first one, and almost as green as the first scan in this thread. It doesn't look remotely like the sample on Herbin's site. Odd....

Simon
loplop
That is highly odd. I just inked up one of my Pelikans with some Lie de The and it's the dark brown I would have expected. Not even a hint of olive tones. I actually wrote some on my testing page near a sample of Vert Olive, and it really is the color you'd expect.

First impressions are fairly positive, but I'm not outrageously in love. I don't use a lot of brown so it's new to me. The bleed-through is excessive on my Moleskine, but it's still useable. I'll post a review in a few weeks.
bdalziel
I'm new to fountain pens, investing in my first pen and inks just a month ago. Lucked out with Lie de the as my first ink - agree, the second scan is right on.
gravitas
QUOTE(skipwilliams @ Jan 7 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]470431[/snapback]
I agree. Your sample looks very close to Vert Olive......my bottle of Lie de The is really a nice medium dark, true brown, no greenish overtones.

Skip

QUOTE(AndrewW @ Jan 7 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]470415[/snapback]
Are you sure this is really Lie de Thé? I have a bottle of it and it looks nothing like this - just a nice, medium to dark brown. This looks very much like the Vert Olive... I'm wondering whether you have a mis-labelled or dud bottle.




The scan does not look like Vert Olive to me. My Vert Olive is much more yellow with green shading. It is a very pretty color.
Tournevis
QUOTE(gravitas @ Mar 8 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]539012[/snapback]
QUOTE(skipwilliams @ Jan 7 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]470431[/snapback]
I agree. Your sample looks very close to Vert Olive......my bottle of Lie de The is really a nice medium dark, true brown, no greenish overtones.

Skip

QUOTE(AndrewW @ Jan 7 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]470415[/snapback]
Are you sure this is really Lie de Thé? I have a bottle of it and it looks nothing like this - just a nice, medium to dark brown. This looks very much like the Vert Olive... I'm wondering whether you have a mis-labelled or dud bottle.




The scan does not look like Vert Olive to me. My Vert Olive is much more yellow with green shading. It is a very pretty color.


The second scan is right on the money to my eye. The first scan was entirely too green, but I agree it does not look at all like Herbin Vert olive, which I have too and has no brown at all. It is a very pretty colour indeed. Both are.
Ghost Plane
I have The loaded in my Carenes right now and it writes golden brown from them, while it's more of an actual tea color from my Van Goghs. All in the flow and nib size...
Artful Lounger
Bought this ink myself and using it in a Cross ATX. FLows well, lays down a wet line. Looks more golden-brown with a hint of green. I adore this colour. I've not tried it with other pens yet though.
cmeisenzahl
Beautiful, thanks!
Tournevis
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Beautiful, thanks!


No, thank you,
Rapt
I love the look of this colour ink in both scans... This is the colour I'm going to try and approximate with Noodler's bulletproof and eternal inks and mixing...

omrala
It's interesting to see these recurring threads around the brown/green aspects of this ink. I have a bottle, and mine also has distinct "dirty green" overtones - although I've noticed, from trying it in several pens - that this ink's color seems to vary heavily based on the pen's flow. More ink seems to result in more brown on the page, and on the other extreme, a dry-ish line yields a color even greener than the first scan.

It's an interesting ink - not one that I use regularly, but one that I keep going back to periodically...

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