blueiris
Dec 31 2007, 12:24 AM
This is one of several scans I'm posting today. All inks (except the one noted) are bottled ink. Except for that one exception, all color names were written with a Speedball B-6 steel dip nib (the exception was written with the corner of a Pilot Parallel pen).
These are photos taken without flash, then adjusted to be consistent with each other and to match what I see (to the extent possible on my particular monitor). I hope they are useful to someone.
BROWNS
- Sailor Brown (golden brown, not as warm-caramel or as light as Diamine Sepia (by memory), nice shading)
- Caran d'Ache Grand Canyon (dark taupe or dark brown with charcoal gray in it, some shading, no red appears when dropped into a wet sink)
- Conway Stewart Brown (medium brown, does not appear reddish or grayish but there is red evident when dropped into a wet sink, little to no shading)
- Waterman Havana (dark chocolate cherry or dark brownish raisin, sometimes it seems more reddish than brown, reminds me of mahogany furniture, little to no shading)
- Visconti Sepia (warm deep brown, more autumnal than Waterman Havana, some shading)
Deirdre
Dec 31 2007, 05:14 AM
I really like the Caran d'Ache!
Leigh R
Dec 31 2007, 07:34 AM
Grand Canyon is my favorite brown!

I wish someone would make it more cheaply, and packaged in less stingy quantities (only 30 ml a bottle, sigh).
blueiris
Mar 10 2008, 08:21 PM
Here is an updated photo, with new browns (from samples):
Omas Sepia (not as reddish as Waterman Havana and not as autumnal as Visconti Sepia, yet warmer and darker than Conway Stewart Brown)
Diamine Saddle Brown (to echo NeilB's description, it's similar to Conway Stewart Brown, but more "interesting"--shows shading where CS Brown has little to none, and the color is slightly warmer than CS Brown; it's not as dark or rich as as Omas Sepia)
Diamine Burnt Sienna (more orange-cognac in hue than any of the others on the page, reminds me of a friend's bottle of Pelikan Brilliant Brown, but I haven't compared them directly).
The descriptions of the other colors remain in my original post.
(edited to add the last sentence)
tcheuchter
Mar 10 2008, 08:28 PM
Ta for your scans. Very helpful. Diamine Saddle Brown looks mighty nice. Been looking to buy it too.
BruceK
Mar 10 2008, 09:12 PM
Wonderful information - thanks! Any hints on which one of those inks might be closest to FPN's Galileo? Looks like Visconti Sepia might be close.
blueiris
Mar 10 2008, 09:50 PM
Bruce, I'm afraid I don't have FPN Galileo and have never seen it. You might refer to WimG's comprehensive review and scans of browns (titled something like "26 browns and 1 orange"), because I recall that he included scans of the Galileo among the myriad of other browns.
jbn10161
Mar 10 2008, 10:42 PM
Great scan and outstanding comparative descriptions! Very helpful; thanks.
Shelley
Mar 10 2008, 10:57 PM
Very nice-now you need to get some PR to add to your collection!
BruceK
Mar 11 2008, 02:14 AM
QUOTE(blueiris @ Mar 10 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]541096[/snapback]
Bruce, I'm afraid I don't have FPN Galileo and have never seen it. You might refer to WimG's comprehensive review and scans of browns (titled something like "26 browns and 1 orange"), because I recall that he included scans of the Galileo among the myriad of other browns.
Thanks for the suggestion. I found the review.
finalidid
Mar 11 2008, 03:47 AM
I am finding my Waterman Havana Brown to be REMARKABLY variant. Within just a few seconds of setting aside an open-nibbed pen -- say, only long enough to turn the page of my journal, to pick up the pen and start writing again -- the ink dries enough to appear a different color. I mentioned this elsewhere: the chromatography on a piece of coffee filter paper runs from a sage or even forest green, through an orange, then a red-brown (a separate color from those surrounding it), to a chocolate. These four colors (green; orange; red-brown; chocolate-brown) are fairly distinct, but the change from chocolate to reddish brown is very rapid in the drying process -- less than five seconds!
Maybe I have weird pens. Or a weird bottle of ink. Or very dry atmosphere in my apartment ...
Will
Mar 13 2008, 09:21 AM
I've just got the two Diamine browns that you show. The burnt Sienna is a lovely colour - reminds me of Italy and the Tuscan feel
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