Can anyone help me ID this pen?
Clear Parker
Thanks!
Regards,
Immo
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Hi Immo,
It looks like a 51 Vacumatic Demonstrator, whether it is a US factory one or one made by Ariel Kullock in Argentina I couldn't say, there are many Parker specialists who, I am sure, can tell you more.
Cheers, John
It looks like a 51 Vacumatic Demonstrator, whether it is a US factory one or one made by Ariel Kullock in Argentina I couldn't say, there are many Parker specialists who, I am sure, can tell you more.
Cheers, John
I'm very tempted to buy this...
Looks like a 51 Demo, but the hood looks like a Kullock replacement... too pointed
If the pen is correct it would be a late model Vac filler, late 1947- to 1948, IF the cap is correct...
If the pen is correct it would be a late model Vac filler, late 1947- to 1948, IF the cap is correct...
Well this one closed at $261... more than I would have been willing to pay for it...
Especially since there was no mention of date marking and the pics were not all that good..
I hope the person who bought it got a real Parker...
Especially since there was no mention of date marking and the pics were not all that good..
I hope the person who bought it got a real Parker...
It was too rich for me... Hopefully, I'll have better luck finding a demo 51 for a reasonable price.
QUOTE(Immoteus @ Nov 29 2007, 05:22 AM) [snapback]432785[/snapback]
It was too rich for me... Hopefully, I'll have better luck finding a demo 51 for a reasonable price.
If that was an accurate Parker 51 Demo, the price was actually pretty good...
I sold one at the Columbus Show in the $300 range two years ago...
Parker 51 Demos are never found at "reasonable prices" unless they need a ton of work.. and even then they are high..
If you want one to use, I love my Kullock clear vac. Admittedly, it took some tweaking to get it flowing just right, but I put a B nib in it from a trashed English 51 Mark II or III and it is one of my favorite pens.
I think the Kullock vac set me back $120 or so, but I love seeing how the vac mechanism works (knowing this, actually helped me fix other vacs that weren't working properly... it's kind-of an ah-ha!, at least for me). Plus I can carry it and use it without worry.
I agree the auction needed more info. I would not have paid $260 without examining the pen in person.
I think the Kullock vac set me back $120 or so, but I love seeing how the vac mechanism works (knowing this, actually helped me fix other vacs that weren't working properly... it's kind-of an ah-ha!, at least for me). Plus I can carry it and use it without worry.
I agree the auction needed more info. I would not have paid $260 without examining the pen in person.
QUOTE(Immoteus @ Nov 29 2007, 02:22 AM) [snapback]432785[/snapback]
It was too rich for me... Hopefully, I'll have better luck finding a demo 51 for a reasonable price.
If a kosher Demo, that was a very reasonable price.
They trade for more at the pen shows and online sales sources.regards
david
If the high bidder was a pen person with even limited knowlege, I would be shocked if they (and a couple of other bidders) didn't e-mail the seller and receive a reply about markings on the pen. Otherwise I don't think anyone would have bid more than a brand new Kullock costs (about $150 these days according to his site - http://www.arielkullock.com/vfpdb.php?cate...%&start=30).
E-mail exchange could have been as simple as:
Bidder: Hi. Can you tell me if the Barrel has any markings on it, like Parker and a number?
Seller: Sorry, I don't know anything about pens, but yes, this pen has the words Parker and the number 4 with a dot after it in the barrel close to where two pieces screw together.
Now if the seller, when responding, would have chosen to post those answers (hypothetically) then I bet bidding would have surely gone higher, perhaps into the mid $300 to low $400 range.
E-mail exchange could have been as simple as:
Bidder: Hi. Can you tell me if the Barrel has any markings on it, like Parker and a number?
Seller: Sorry, I don't know anything about pens, but yes, this pen has the words Parker and the number 4 with a dot after it in the barrel close to where two pieces screw together.
Now if the seller, when responding, would have chosen to post those answers (hypothetically) then I bet bidding would have surely gone higher, perhaps into the mid $300 to low $400 range.
QUOTE(telltime @ Nov 29 2007, 04:32 PM) [snapback]433169[/snapback]
If the high bidder was a pen person with even limited knowlege, I would be shocked if they (and a couple of other bidders) didn't e-mail the seller and receive a reply about markings on the pen. Otherwise I don't think anyone would have bid more than a brand new Kullock costs (about $150 these days according to his site - http://www.arielkullock.com/vfpdb.php?cate...%&start=30).
E-mail exchange could have been as simple as:
Bidder: Hi. Can you tell me if the Barrel has any markings on it, like Parker and a number?
Seller: Sorry, I don't know anything about pens, but yes, this pen has the words Parker and the number 4 with a dot after it in the barrel close to where two pieces screw together.
Now if the seller, when responding, would have chosen to post those answers (hypothetically) then I bet bidding would have surely gone higher, perhaps into the mid $300 to low $400 range.
E-mail exchange could have been as simple as:
Bidder: Hi. Can you tell me if the Barrel has any markings on it, like Parker and a number?
Seller: Sorry, I don't know anything about pens, but yes, this pen has the words Parker and the number 4 with a dot after it in the barrel close to where two pieces screw together.
Now if the seller, when responding, would have chosen to post those answers (hypothetically) then I bet bidding would have surely gone higher, perhaps into the mid $300 to low $400 range.
Just knowing it was authentic would not be enough for me. I'd want to really check out the condition of all the parts and check carefully for cracks or damage. Yes the price was decent for a "real" demo, but as always there is that element of risk involved with eBay buying. I still say for that money, on that particular demo model, I'd want to eyeball it. I know what I'm looking for/at, and the seller does not, and even if I give then specific instructions on things to look for, most sellers are not motivated (in my experience) to do it, or to do it as well as I would.
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