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Bisquitlips
I have collected FP's for 25 years or more, but I have to admit that I cannot define a nib type by looking at it. wub.gif hmm1.gif

This is the 1970's period Montblanc 149 that I purchased earlier this month. Can you tell me what type of nib I have here?

I must say that it is one of the most pleasant nibs I have ever written with. I hope that it is a BB or an Italic, but I just don't know. Sorry that the photos are not better.

Thanks for any input!







FrankB
Don't feel bad, guy. I have been writing with FP's for 50 years and there is no way I can just pick up a pen and tell you what size point its nib has.

I find MB's habit of not imprinting their nibs sizes irritating as hell! I have stared at enlarger versions of your photos and I just cannot help you out. You will most probably have to take the pen to a pen show or mail it to a nib meister to get a competent assessment of the nib size. - You indicate that you like the nib. That is great! I hope you continue to enjoy it - whatever size it is.

I like 149's for their size and writing chacteristics, including reliability and smooth easy ink flow on paper. I have three thus far, in F, M and BB. I am still sniffing about for an affordable B. I have gotten good buys on flea-Bay, but that auction venue is a very labor intensive process. The biggest problem is finding out from sellers what size nib they are offering. That is a bigger problem than assessing the authenticity of the pens themselves. Sellers keep reading off what is imprinted on the nib, with many not comprehending that the gold content is not the size of the nib. I am running a little over 50% on sellers who cannot tell me what size nib point they are selling. I just give up and continue to look for the nib size I need.

By the way, what did your seller have to say about the nib size?
Bisquitlips
QUOTE(FrankB @ Nov 23 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]427509[/snapback]
Don't feel bad, guy. I have been writing with FP's for 50 years and there is no way I can just pick up a pen and tell you what size point its nib has.

I find MB's habit of not imprinting their nibs sizes irritating as hell! I have stared at enlarger versions of your photos and I just cannot help you out. You will most probably have to take the pen to a pen show or mail it to a nib meister to get a competent assessment of the nib size. - You indicate that you like the nib. That is great! I hope you continue to enjoy it - whatever size it is.

I like 149's for their size and writing chacteristics, including reliability and smooth easy ink flow on paper. I have three thus far, in F, M and BB. I am still sniffing about for an affordable B. I have gotten good buys on flea-Bay, but that auction venue is a very labor intensive process. The biggest problem is finding out from sellers what size nib they are offering. That is a bigger problem than assessing the authenticity of the pens themselves. Sellers keep reading off what is imprinted on the nib, with many not comprehending that the gold content is not the size of the nib. I am running a little over 50% on sellers who cannot tell me what size nib point they are selling. I just give up and continue to look for the nib size I need.

By the way, what did your seller have to say about the nib size?


The seller did not say anything about the size of the nib, but methinks that it has improved my handwriting in the extreme. thumbup.gif

I hope someone can shed some light on the size of the nib as I would like to purchase other pens in the same size.
LDF
My guess is a stub.
Got a writing sample?
Ordering a pen off the bay without knowing the nib
size is pretty courageous. Glad it worked out!!
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Bisquitlips
QUOTE(LDF @ Nov 23 2007, 06:03 PM) [snapback]427694[/snapback]
My guess is a stub.
Got a writing sample?
Ordering a pen off the bay without knowing the nib
size is pretty courageous. Glad it worked out!!
happyberet.gif


Well, I didn't have a 149 so in my opinion any 149 was better than no 149. thumbup.gif

I will try to get a writing example soon. I should have thought of that. headsmack.gif
goodguy
I dont know what nib this is but I want to congratulate you for getting a treasure of a pen.
MB 149 is my baby and hands down my favorite pen.
Bisquitlips
QUOTE(goodguy @ Nov 23 2007, 09:24 PM) [snapback]427823[/snapback]
I dont know what nib this is but I want to congratulate you for getting a treasure of a pen.
MB 149 is my baby and hands down my favorite pen.


Thanks!

I resisted purchasing a 149 as I had a 146 that I did NOT like and sold it some years ago.

But after reading many posts on this forum I could not forebear! It is now the one I reach for first.
james566clugston
i am sorry to say this the pen looks fake look at the body and look at the nib. the tipping is not like mont blanc also the nib is missing SOD below the 750 and says 18c not 18k.
Flere-Imsaho
QUOTE(james566clugston @ Nov 25 2007, 07:04 PM) [snapback]428861[/snapback]
i am sorry to say this the pen looks fake look at the body and look at the nib. the tipping is not like mont blanc also the nib is missing SOD below the 750 and says 18c not 18k.


James,

If you mean the ridge at the end of the grip, that is typical for a vintage 149.
So is the C in stead of the K as far as I know.

I'm wondering if the capring has "meisterstück" or "masterpiece" inscribed?
james566clugston
Yes I know about the ridge at the end of the grip the body is possibly real but the nib is by no means real. If it was a 149 from the 70s it would be 14k nib mont blanc I am sure have never put a c on it they only used k. also mont blanc do not tip nibs like that am I wong in this.
SMG
I have to disagree, this is a MB pen through and through. The nib is an original MB, and may have been replaced with a later version, but I am fairly sure that the 18C imprint is quite correct for that vintage. Also, I recall that the 18C nibs were slightly more bouncy than those which were manufactured later and marked with a K. Regarging the nib size, it would appear to me that it is a typical MB bold. They tend to have a boxy appearance to them like a stub, but do not have the italic grind that would produce stub like line variation. I inspected a few Bold nibs at the local MB dealer and they all had that boxy appearance.

Enjoy the pen, it looks to be very nice.

Cheers,
Sean
Flere-Imsaho
QUOTE(james566clugston @ Nov 25 2007, 11:52 PM) [snapback]429111[/snapback]
Yes I know about the ridge at the end of the grip the body is possibly real but the nib is by no means real. If it was a 149 from the 70s it would be 14k nib mont blanc I am sure have never put a c on it they only used k. also mont blanc do not tip nibs like that am I wong in this.

This is from the www.fountainpen.de website, one of the sources for MB info.
The bottom pic of a the nib of a vintage 149, with a 14C marking. So C can be right.
vintage 149 webpage
niksch
QUOTE(james566clugston @ Nov 25 2007, 10:52 PM) [snapback]429111[/snapback]
Yes I know about the ridge at the end of the grip the body is possibly real but the nib is by no means real. If it was a 149 from the 70s it would be 14k nib mont blanc I am sure have never put a c on it they only used k. also mont blanc do not tip nibs like that am I wong in this.



Here is a link that shows some vintage 149s with nib markings.

http://www.pentrace.net/penbase/Data_Retur...=405&cname=

I think Montblanc starting using the SOD marking in the late '90s. My latest acquistion is a 2000 model and has the SOD marking, but none of my other 149s have it.

Regards, Eric
FrankB
It looks like we are all so concerned about fake MB's that we sound friggin' paranoid. I also do not doubt that Bisquitlips' MB is genuine. I know for sure that my F and M 149's are genuine. I do not know their dates for certain, but I think the F is from the late 1970's and the M is from the early 1990's.

The nib on my "F" 149 reads 14C, and there is no "SOD." The nib on my "M" 149 reads 14K and has the "SOD" in its oval. So MB changed their manufacturing practices over the years. I have no problem with that (fact).

I am still anticipating a writing sample from your Wundernib, Bisquitlips.
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