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Dillo
Hi,

Please post a picture of the Pelikan convertor beside a newer Parker, Rotring, or Waterman converter (They are all the same).

Thanks!

Dillon
Stylo
QUOTE (Dillo @ Oct 13 2005, 07:11 PM)
Hi,

Please post a picture of the Pelikan convertor beside a newer Parker, Rotring, or Waterman converter (They are all the same).

Thanks!

Dillon

Waterman converters don't seem the same to me. They seem to have a higher quality collar.
Dillo
Hi,

The new convertors are now exactly the same shape and size except for a few things like different sized tips, different engravings, and the smoked color on the Parker. The collars are the same now.

Dillon
Denis Richard
I'm not astonished with Parker, Rotring and Waterman now being the same, as the companies are owned by the same group, and the same factory (Waterman) makes all (?) the high end pen. That seems logical business-wise to consolidate.
JeffTL
Can Rotring and Waterman converters be used in Parker pens, or do they just share a lot of parts? The cartridges, to my knowledge, are not compatible.
wimg
Hi Dillon,

Parker and Waterman converters, although made in the same factory, are NOT compatible, or the same for that matter.

The only converters compatible with each other are international size converters, although different brands do not necessarily fit into each others barrels.

On some Waterman pens an international converter will work, like the Pelikan one. I am thinking specifically of some of the early CF pens (yes, here is the replacement converter for those hard to get original ones biggrin.gif, provided the barrel is wide enough to accommodate them; use a single layer (yes, 1 and 1 only!!!) of teflon tape around the bottom part, not covering the nipple, to make it seat sturdily), and some of the newer models, with barrels wide enough to accommodate them.

The nipple shape of Parker and Waterman converters is not the same, and neither is the diameter of the hole, or the receiving end in the section for the nipple.

I'll post a pic if I manage to get around to making one in the first place, this weekend (I do have to work, unfortunately, so I'll see how things work out). I can't show a pic of a Rotring converter, though: I simply don't have one: I am not into Rotring pens. I can show a few Lamy converters instead biggrin.gif.

Warm regards, Wim
Dillo
Hi,

The only parts Rotring, Waterman, and Parker convertors share are the piston knob, piston rod, piston rubber, collar, and screw ferrule. The restof the stuff follows the same shape, but has a different color or shape. Waterman and Rotring convertors will not fit in Parker pens and vice versa.

The very newest Waterman convertors have a different collar than the original. It has a similar collar to the Parker and Rotring convertors.

Well, I just want a size comparison because the Rotring and Waterman convertors fit better in some slimmer pens.

Dillon
wimg
Hi Dillon,

While at work today, I took some pictures. IŽll try to photoshop them tonight and post them. Probably in "Other Reviews". IŽll let you know.

I see you want measurements, too, now laugh.gif. Ummm, my micrometer, or whatever it is called, is still lost in the hodge podge of things from my study, when it got flooded at the end of July. It isnŽt one of the things I use a lot, so it is still in a box somewhere, not yet unpacked. IŽll see what I can do with a regular ruler, but donŽt expect much from this exercise.

Warm regards, Wim
wimg
Hi Dillon,

Just posted a new topic, in Other Reviews and Articles. Here is the link:
Converter pictures

HTH, warm regards, Wim
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