Grendl
Nov 8 2007, 06:29 PM
Hey gang, this is my first post after having read everything I could find here on brown ink.
I love Waterman's Havana brown, but it dries too slowly for my use in the office. Any suggestions on something as pretty in brown that would be quicker drying? I already ordered (while waiting to be allowed to post here... I know, impatient) Noodler's Walnut and Private Reserve's Chocolat. But I'm wondering if there's anything that dries faster.
Thanks for your time, attention, and making this resource what it is!
Grendl
DilettanteG
Nov 8 2007, 07:08 PM
Welcome to FPN!
Noodler's makes a line of quick drying ink for Swisher Pens. Here's the link:
Swisher InksI haven't used it, but I really like their Swishmix Line, which this is a component of. The down side is it's really designed to be used on good paper. My Swishmix inks feather like mad on cheap paper.
J English Smith
Nov 8 2007, 07:10 PM
Pelikan brown is nice, similar to Havana...pretty quick drying.
I like PR Copper Burst too - very bright and lively. Normal PR ink drying time, seems faster than Purple Mojo or Tanzanite.
southpaw
Nov 8 2007, 08:41 PM
Visconti Brown is tops in my book, followed closely by Waterman Havana Brown.
Jared
Nov 8 2007, 09:04 PM
QUOTE(J English Smith @ Nov 8 2007, 07:10 PM) [snapback]413727[/snapback]
I like PR Copper Burst too - very bright and lively.
I used to like PRs Copper Burst, until the ink in my bottle turned a greenish olive-colored. I understand that there have been some problems with this color.
Jared
Opus104
Nov 8 2007, 11:03 PM
I love my Havana and don't ever have drying issues - I guess every pen is different, as they say. Give Levenger Cocoa a try. Not quite as dark, but well pigmented. Good luck.
Matt
Nov 8 2007, 11:22 PM
In my experience, though I love Noodlers and Private Reserve colors, they tend to dry slower than Waterman of other inks that are less pigmented. I have both Walnut and Chocolat and like them both, but they are a bit smudgey. It seems whenever I use some Noodlers or PR inks I always have little ink smears on my fingers when I am done writing.
My favorite inks are Diamine. Their browns are not very dard, but the new browns coming out, raw sienna and saddle brown look quite a bit darker.
IMO, Pelikan Brilliant Brown is lighter and redder than Waterman Havana Brown (I have both).
Omas brown is a pretty nice dark brown that seems to dry faster than Walnut or Chocolat.
Good luck.
Matt C.
Stylo
Nov 8 2007, 11:55 PM
I like my Pelikan Brown well enough.
Grendl
Nov 8 2007, 11:57 PM
So I've also now purchased the Pelikan Brown and Swisher which were recommended. I guess if I was going to go out and buy that much ink, I shouldn't have bothered asking. But it was fun! Should I buy the Omas and Diamine too, or wait and see what I've got?
I also ordered another Pelikan pen! That makes for some very expensive ink.
Thanks gang!
wimg
Nov 9 2007, 12:17 AM
Well, nobody mentioned FPN Galileo Manuscript Brown (GMB), so I guess I will.
GMB is a great, fast drying, very well flowing, waterproof ink, with great colour, if you ask me

.
Check out the review I wrote

. Here it is:
http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=18219Warm regards, Wim
bernardo
Nov 9 2007, 12:28 AM
I suggest you get several inks and experiment mixing them till you get whay you want. I do this to produce my own sepia mix, which I like a lot.
RayMan
Nov 9 2007, 12:33 AM
QUOTE(southpaw @ Nov 8 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]413775[/snapback]
Visconti Brown is tops in my book, followed closely by Waterman Havana Brown.
I like Visconti Brown as well.
Tournevis
Nov 9 2007, 01:19 AM
I really like Levenger Cocoa and it is very fast drying.
Opus104
Nov 9 2007, 01:53 AM
QUOTE(wimg @ Nov 8 2007, 06:17 PM) [snapback]413940[/snapback]
Well, nobody mentioned FPN Galileo Manuscript Brown (GMB), so I guess I will.
GMB is a great, fast drying, very well flowing, waterproof ink, with great colour, if you ask me

.
I'm waiting patiently for my first shipment . . . .
I use Diamine Dark Brown and have no problems with drying.
That said I live in sub tropical Brisbane so a room temperature of 24 degrees C on average probably helps.
wimg
Nov 9 2007, 09:55 AM
BTW, I almost forgot, I did a 26 brown ink comparison as well, on different types of papers, here it is:
http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=18223And yes, I do like brown inks

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Warm regards, Wim
davidv7
Nov 9 2007, 10:56 AM
Another one for Visconti Brown here.
Ink Stained Wretch
Nov 9 2007, 11:55 AM
QUOTE(Grendl @ Nov 8 2007, 01:29 PM) [snapback]413685[/snapback]
Hey gang, this is my first post after having read everything I could find here on brown ink.
I love Waterman's Havana brown, but it dries too slowly for my use in the office. Any suggestions on something as pretty in brown that would be quicker drying? I already ordered (while waiting to be allowed to post here... I know, impatient) Noodler's Walnut and Private Reserve's Chocolat. But I'm wondering if there's anything that dries faster.
Drying is a variable, but Noodler's Walnut is a nice ink. I've found that two other brown semi-bulletproof inks from Noodler's are also quite nice. Standard Brown surprised me with how nice it looked, and Kiowa Pecan is pretty good too.
QUOTE(bernardo @ Nov 8 2007, 07:28 PM) [snapback]413944[/snapback]
I suggest you get several inks and experiment mixing them till you get whay you want. I do this to produce my own sepia mix, which I like a lot.
And what, if I may ask, is the formula for your sepia ink?
guitarman19853
Nov 9 2007, 02:36 PM
Noodler's Eternal Brown. It may not be THE best brown but it is a good brown. Plus you can't pass up the eternal properties of this ink.
The Legend
Nov 9 2007, 03:25 PM
Drying times of Diamine inks are generally fast.
They also have some new browns I read in this section (search the Inky Thought on Diamine).
Grendl
Nov 9 2007, 05:34 PM
Wish I'd seen that wonderful review before I bought 4 inks I won't like as much as Galileo. (BTW found I had Parker and Levenger browns in my desk at home, so soon I'll have 7 browns. . . none of which are Galileo.

Quick drying time are what I'm going for right now to avoid fax/copier smears. I work for a law firm with black/blue rules, so my browns are subversive and have to pass for black.

QUOTE(wimg @ Nov 9 2007, 01:55 AM) [snapback]414238[/snapback]
BTW, I almost forgot, I did a 26 brown ink comparison as well, on different types of papers, here it is:
http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=18223And yes, I do like brown inks

Warm regards, Wim
encephalartos
Nov 10 2007, 05:52 PM
For a "subversive brown", that might "pass for black", have you checked out Rohrer & Klingner Sepia?
It reminds me more of what is called Sepia in paint, with more grey. R & K inks seem to be generally
well-behaved, but I'm right-handed.
Also notice that Diamine Golden Brown is a darker brown than Diamine Dark Brown, as least from the
samples I have seen. It looks like Diamine might be changing their browns around, though. Will they
keep the old browns after the new ones come out?
DougS
Nov 10 2007, 07:27 PM
I'm sticking with the Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Brown. Nice shading for my wet writers.
SteadyHand
Nov 20 2007, 01:52 PM
I want to offer up one that wasn't mentioned:
Sheaffer Brown-It was one of my first inks.
cowdad
Nov 21 2007, 03:57 AM
QUOTE(Grendl @ Nov 9 2007, 05:34 PM) [snapback]414503[/snapback]
Wish I'd seen that wonderful review before I bought 4 inks I won't like as much as Galileo. (BTW found I had Parker and Levenger browns in my desk at home, so soon I'll have 7 browns. . . none of which are Galileo.

If any of those inks top PR Chocolat, I'd like to know about it. I've got about 6 browns, and out of the bottle, none top Chocolat. But I guess Chocolat is about as washable as any of the PR's, which is good if you get it on your white shirts, but bad if you live in New Orleans or other areas prone to flash flooding or torrential rainfall.
If you ever get into mixing, brown is a good color for that. You can add reds, yellows, and even blues to it for interesting variations. I mix it up in the cartidge--an idea I got from Melnicki who is just as cheap as I am--maybe cheaper. When you mess up with a mix in the cartridge, you only throw away a small amount of ink.
PenTieRun
Nov 21 2007, 04:05 AM
Grendl seems to have lots of browns to play with, but I'll throw out one more suggestion. I love the color and it seems to dry quickly: J. Herbin Lie de The. I'm no expert on browns, but this color has a nice shading--as the name indicates, a tea-like flavor to the color.
wdyasq
Nov 21 2007, 05:08 AM
Pick four favorites from Peartreepens in his Ink sampler program.
Ron
Greg D
Nov 21 2007, 06:07 AM
QUOTE(PenTieRun @ Nov 20 2007, 10:05 PM) [snapback]425283[/snapback]
Grendl seems to have lots of browns to play with, but I'll throw out one more suggestion. I love the color and it seems to dry quickly: J. Herbin Lie de The. I'm no expert on browns, but this color has a nice shading--as the name indicates, a tea-like flavor to the color.
I'll second the recommendation for J. Herbin's Lie de The. I bought this awhile back after reading the review here on the FPN, but I just got around to using it yesterday, in my Pelikan M1000. This ink has great flow characteristics and is a darker brown than PR Copper Burst/Bexley Mocha, which is another one of my favorite brown inks. The only down side to the J. Herbin is the price per ounce, but no more than I use - I'll keep buying it.
Greg~
SamCapote
Nov 21 2007, 10:51 PM
Want to give another vote for FPN's Manuscript Brown. I also love Havana Brown, and MontBlanc's 2005/2006 Holiday Brown.
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