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Clive Merrick Morel
Many FPN members are impatiently awaiting the unveiling of Pelikan's M7000 Majesty, an event whose time is finally due (coming to a FP dealer near you in October, 2007). I'm of the opinion that it represents one of, if not the most innovative and unique Pelikan fountain pen designs to date. The proud title Majesty says it all, IMHO.

I've never felt this compelled to purchase any one FP, so . . . if its reviews are positive, I am definitely going to buy one. thumbup.gif

Anyone else feel the same way?

Best Regards from Encinitas, CA.

-Clive

OK . . . I promised a couple of HUGE images.

Here they are:





Bennington1967
I will also buy one, but allow me to correct you. These are not photos, they are computer generated images. Real photos of this baby are still mysteriously hard to come by.
Clive Merrick Morel
I stand corrected. They're computer-generated JPEGs, to be precise.

I still want one -- now more than ever.
puddle.gif
Titivillus
QUOTE(Bennington1967 @ Sep 22 2007, 10:17 AM) [snapback]376521[/snapback]
I will also buy one, but allow me to correct you. These are not photos, they are computer generated images. Real photos of this baby are still mysteriously hard to come by.


Here is one from the Pelikan website
Clive Merrick Morel
Thanks a lot, Tytyvyllus.

Here are several more links for you: I could provide a few more . . . however, they, too (at the present time) are simply links to vaporware. sad.gif

Best Regards,


-Clive

Bennington1967
I hope this pen really does come out. I was beginning to think it was a 'vapour product' to grab attention, rather than a real pen.
Wizergig
I was hoping it would be out this month so that I might stand a chance of seeing one in Dallas. But now October?
AndyHayes
It's not for me. I am not a lover of metal-bodied pens to be honest, preferring the tactile feel of raw ebonite rather than cold steel. I mostly like the look of it though, but could manage a little less gold plate! It's also beyond the budget. I would rather spend this sort of money on a Nakaya or another Dani.

I still love my other Pelikans though and in a choice between the 805 and the Densho the 805 looks classier, but when the Mikado comes along, who knows what pen I might be choosing as my preferred pen.

So fickle!!
CharlieB
I do not plan to buy the M7000 Majesty because it is my understanding that it has the same nib as the M600 series of pens. That nib is just too small. When Pelikan introduces a similar pen at a larger size (M800 or M1000), I will buy it.
andyk
Still don't think I like this pen even if it is a Pelikan.

However I think it looks pretty good without the sleeve, shame about the metal section though, wonder if Pelikan would make one with the clear barrel (choice of colours) metal piston cover and plastic/resin section & metal cap (just a suggestion).

Andy
xerxes1358
Talking about over hyped and overpriced items ....
andyk
QUOTE(xerxes1358 @ Sep 22 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]376718[/snapback]
Talking about over hyped and overpriced items ....



Actually you need to go to the MB forum for that. clap1.gif


(Grabs helmet, flak jacket enough food/water for 6 months and retires to nuclear bunker to await fallout)

Just kidding, honest, but I couldn't resist.

Andy thumbup.gif
PelikanPenman
I like the looks, but having to take the section off to fill it?
xerxes1358
QUOTE(andyk @ Sep 22 2007, 11:46 PM) [snapback]376743[/snapback]
QUOTE(xerxes1358 @ Sep 22 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]376718[/snapback]
Talking about over hyped and overpriced items ....

(Grabs helmet, flak jacket enough food/water for 6 months and retires to nuclear bunker to await fallout)

Andy thumbup.gif



Sweet, another MB war. Wait hold on, I am going to grab popcorn....
Dillo
Hi,

The Majesty has already been released, the launch date was April 1, 2007. If you want one, I'm quite sure I could get you one.

Dillon
Titivillus
QUOTE(CharlieB @ Sep 22 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]376645[/snapback]
I do not plan to buy the M7000 Majesty because it is my understanding that it has the same nib as the M600 series of pens. That nib is just too small. When Pelikan introduces a similar pen at a larger size (M800 or M1000), I will buy it.


So it's another M600 size pen. Nevermind for me too. headsmack.gif
Bennington1967
QUOTE(CharlieB @ Sep 22 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]376645[/snapback]
I do not plan to buy the M7000 Majesty because it is my understanding that it has the same nib as the M600 series of pens. That nib is just too small. When Pelikan introduces a similar pen at a larger size (M800 or M1000), I will buy it.



My understanding is that it is actually much thicker than a M600, and with a slightly longer barrel. But the nib does seem the same.
Bennington1967
QUOTE(xerxes1358 @ Sep 22 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]376718[/snapback]
Talking about over hyped and overpriced items ....



It's only overpriced if you don't like it.
Bennington1967
QUOTE(Dillo @ Sep 22 2007, 11:19 PM) [snapback]376762[/snapback]
Hi,

The Majesty has already been released, the launch date was April 1, 2007. If you want one, I'm quite sure I could get you one.

Dillon



Wrong. This date was postponed six months to October.
LDF
QUOTE(Bennington1967 @ Sep 22 2007, 11:55 PM) [snapback]376811[/snapback]
QUOTE(xerxes1358 @ Sep 22 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]376718[/snapback]
Talking about over hyped and overpriced items ....



It's only overpriced if you don't like it.


Touche laugh.gif
*david*
It needs fins, and a "V8" logo on the side. cool.gif
OboeJuan
Okay. I think I get it now. The pen is metal. I thought there were two diffwerent models (one was metal and the other was that pretty blue see-through section. I would buy the pretty blue one, but not the metal one. Apparently, I prefer Pelikans in their underwear.

Kath
Clive Merrick Morel
QUOTE
I do not plan to buy the M7000 Majesty because it is my understanding that it has the same nib as the M600 series of pens. That nib is just too small.
QUOTE
So it's another M600 size pen.
QUOTE
It needs fins, and a "V8" logo on the side.


According to the information I've gleaned from FPN, various websites and a blog or two . . .

The Pelikan M7000 Majesty:
  • Will be made from Sterling silver
  • Will be between an 800 and a 1000 in length
  • Will use 800-sized nibs
  • Will have a solid brass converter/filler
  • Can be optionally-equipped with '58 DeSoto rear fins
  • Unlike lesser pens, will come factory-equipped with a Bugatti Veyron 16.4 (16-cylinder) engine

Like I'd stated in a previous post, until the pen has been released (hopefully, next month), I'll reserve any and all judgement; waiting not only for its reviews to appear, but additionally seeking opinions from an assortment of knowledgeable dealers (Richard Binder is at the very top of my list).

With any luck, a pen dealer within, say, a 100-mile radius from my home will really/truly/actually carry the Majesty . . . whereby I could hold/fondle/use (er, see) first-hand, what all the fuss is about.

Unitil it's on the market and available for sale, everything else is mere 'educated' speculation and rumor (except for the optional fins and 16-cylinder engine). biggrin.gif


-Clive

saintsimon
If I could afford it, I would use it without the sleeve and with rubber tape around the slippery metal section. tongue.gif
bohan
I have a question:

is this pen a limited edition?
Bennington1967
QUOTE(bohan @ Sep 23 2007, 06:59 AM) [snapback]376980[/snapback]
I have a question:

is this pen a limited edition?



No, a regular line pen.
xerxes1358
I think I saw it somewhere for about $1200 correct?
bohan
QUOTE(Bennington1967 @ Sep 23 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]377265[/snapback]
QUOTE(bohan @ Sep 23 2007, 06:59 AM) [snapback]376980[/snapback]
I have a question:

is this pen a limited edition?



No, a regular line pen.



only one word in the English language can summarize my feelings right now:


AWESOME!

thumbup.gif
Bennington1967
QUOTE(xerxes1358 @ Sep 23 2007, 10:10 PM) [snapback]377315[/snapback]
I think I saw it somewhere for about $1200 correct?



That's the fool's price. You can order it from Pam for $700.
Bennington1967
QUOTE(OboeJuan @ Sep 23 2007, 05:16 AM) [snapback]376944[/snapback]
Okay. I think I get it now. The pen is metal. I thought there were two diffwerent models (one was metal and the other was that pretty blue see-through section. I would buy the pretty blue one, but not the metal one. Apparently, I prefer Pelikans in their underwear.

Kath



I only like ladies in their underwear!
xerxes1358
I think $400 is a fair price this pen (to me at least).
Bennington1967
QUOTE(xerxes1358 @ Sep 24 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]377810[/snapback]
I think $400 is a fair price this pen (to me at least).



You have to look at the prices of other Pelikan pens and see how the Majesty fits in. Pelikan sees this pen as the top-of-the-range, so it is going to be priced accordingly. I doubt that the Majesty will be produced in large numbers, so a low price would not be advisable in these circumstances. And this pen will compete against similat sterling pens like the MB 146 Solitaire, Waterman Exception Sterling, Duofold Esparto, etc. $400 would be much too low.
Dillo
QUOTE(Bennington1967 @ Sep 22 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]376812[/snapback]
QUOTE(Dillo @ Sep 22 2007, 11:19 PM) [snapback]376762[/snapback]
Hi,

The Majesty has already been released, the launch date was April 1, 2007. If you want one, I'm quite sure I could get you one.

Dillon



Wrong. This date was postponed six months to October.


Hi,

This date is what I received from Chartpak. It looks like it is in stock at Chartpak.

Dillon
Stylo
My thoughts on this pen:

The good:
- even if it is M600 size, it should accommodate larger hands thanks to its grip design.
- the nib does not seem too small to me on this pen as some have suggested, although a slightly larger nib might look even better
- it looks sleek.

The bad:
- What is the point of making a sterling silver pen if you are going to cover it with platinum??? hmm1.gif
- At the price point it is being offered, you can find many other SS pens, some even cheaper, with far more intricate and striking designs. Yes, the Majesty has a clean flowing design, but one that doesn't justify its price. For about the same or less, you can get one of the beautiful SS Conway Stewarts, such as the Drake or 100 Icon, one of the Yard-O-Led Grand Viceroys, the Duofold Esparto if you like that kind of design, and some other pens from Waterford, Waterman, etc. Is the Majesty unique and striking enough to stand out among these other pens? I can only guess in general, but it wouldn't as far as my wallet is concerned.
Bennington1967
QUOTE(Stylo @ Sep 25 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]378727[/snapback]
My thoughts on this pen:

The good:
- even if it is M600 size, it should accommodate larger hands thanks to its grip design.
- the nib does not seem too small to me on this pen as some have suggested, although a slightly larger nib might look even better
- it looks sleek.

The bad:
- What is the point of making a sterling silver pen if you are going to cover it with platinum??? hmm1.gif
- At the price point it is being offered, you can find many other SS pens, some even cheaper, with far more intricate and striking designs. Yes, the Majesty has a clean flowing design, but one that doesn't justify its price. For about the same or less, you can get one of the beautiful SS Conway Stewarts, such as the Drake or 100 Icon, one of the Yard-O-Led Grand Viceroys, the Duofold Esparto if you like that kind of design, and some other pens from Waterford, Waterman, etc. Is the Majesty unique and striking enough to stand out among these other pens? I can only guess in general, but it wouldn't as far as my wallet is concerned.



Platinum is being used more and more for plating sterling silver pens because it protects the metal from tarnish. Now, I know that many of us like the tarnish that silver gets over time, but the pen manufacturers think differently! Waterman has used the same approach for the sterling silver Edson and Exception.

I did own a CS Icon but found it too small for my liking, so it ended up being Ebayed. The Majesty is a little longer and heavier than the Icon. In anycase, I will need to see and hold the Majesty before buying it.
Clive Merrick Morel
QUOTE(Bennington1967 @ Sep 26 2007, 04:57 PM) [snapback]379842[/snapback]
I did own a CS Icon but found it too small for my liking, so it ended up being eBayed. The Majesty is a little longer and heavier than the Icon. In any case, I will need to see and hold the Majesty before buying it.


Hello, Bennington1967

I've been following your posts and wholeheartedly agree with all of 'em. thumbup.gif

The more I read about the Majesty, the more curious I become. I, too, would prefer to see and hold one prior to purchasing it. However, if push comes to shove, I'm mighty tempted to 'go for it' as they say, and buy the thing sight-on-scene. (How bad could this pen possibly be, for God's sake?!??)

I've looked at the sterling pens Stylo listed in his post, and, yes, they're 'not bad.' There's just something about the Majesty that elevates it above its rivals, IMHO. Admittedly, I am just a wee bit biased toward Pelikans, which might serve as one of the key factors behind my lust for this particular Sterling silver pen.
puddle.gif What can I tell you? I really love the Majesty's striking appearance: her bold, yet graceful lines (of course it's a female!), her tastefully-appointed gold trim, her exquisite nib . . . I could go on and on. I believe you get the picture. biggrin.gif

Take it easy.


-Clive

Stylo
QUOTE(Bennington1967 @ Sep 26 2007, 04:57 PM) [snapback]379842[/snapback]
Platinum is being used more and more for plating sterling silver pens because it protects the metal from tarnish. Now, I know that many of us like the tarnish that silver gets over time, but the pen manufacturers think differently! Waterman has used the same approach for the sterling silver Edson and Exception.


I just checked the Waterman site. There is no mention that the SS Edson LE or the SS Exception are plated with Platinum.

There are, however, other brand pens that offer platinum plating instead of silver, not on top of silver.

To me, the point of using silver is the finish. If you are going to cover it, you might as well use a cheaper metal. Unless, of course, someone just likes having the pen made entirely of a precious metals.
Bennington1967
QUOTE(Stylo @ Sep 27 2007, 02:48 AM) [snapback]379946[/snapback]
QUOTE(Bennington1967 @ Sep 26 2007, 04:57 PM) [snapback]379842[/snapback]
Platinum is being used more and more for plating sterling silver pens because it protects the metal from tarnish. Now, I know that many of us like the tarnish that silver gets over time, but the pen manufacturers think differently! Waterman has used the same approach for the sterling silver Edson and Exception.


I just checked the Waterman site. There is no mention that the SS Edson LE or the SS Exception are plated with Platinum.

There are, however, other brand pens that offer platinum plating instead of silver, not on top of silver.

To me, the point of using silver is the finish. If you are going to cover it, you might as well use a cheaper metal. Unless, of course, someone just likes having the pen made entirely of a precious metals.



There is no mention but they ARE coated with either rhodium or platinum - trust me. Just go and pick one up in a shop and you'll see for yourself.

I disagree with you about plating. Not everyone who wants to buy a silver pen wants the tarnish that goes with it - that's why they plate. But the base metal is still silver. Vermeil is another approach, this time using gold as the plating metal.
Stylo
QUOTE(Bennington1967 @ Sep 27 2007, 02:14 PM) [snapback]380646[/snapback]
I disagree with you about plating. Not everyone who wants to buy a silver pen wants the tarnish that goes with it - that's why they plate. But the base metal is still silver.


Yes, the base metal is silver, but what you see is the plating, not the silver. As to silver tarnishing, it takes maybe five minutes a year to keep it sparkling. The look of silver is unmistakable, and to me, the slight tarnishing is a very small price to pay, or a benefit, depending on how you look at it. Of course, it is all a matter of personal taste.
Bennington1967
Just to let you all know. Pam has just received her first batch of Pelikan M7000 Majesty pens.
Bennington1967
QUOTE(Stylo @ Sep 28 2007, 12:45 AM) [snapback]380762[/snapback]
QUOTE(Bennington1967 @ Sep 27 2007, 02:14 PM) [snapback]380646[/snapback]
I disagree with you about plating. Not everyone who wants to buy a silver pen wants the tarnish that goes with it - that's why they plate. But the base metal is still silver.


Yes, the base metal is silver, but what you see is the plating, not the silver. As to silver tarnishing, it takes maybe five minutes a year to keep it sparkling. The look of silver is unmistakable, and to me, the slight tarnishing is a very small price to pay, or a benefit, depending on how you look at it. Of course, it is all a matter of personal taste.



Well, I love vermeil. It's not just ordinary gold plating on brass - it has a special 'look' and quality that only gilded silver has. As I love both gold and silver, but could never afford solid gold, vermeil is a very nice compromise.
pankaj
QUOTE(Bennington1967 @ Sep 24 2007, 09:23 AM) [snapback]377653[/snapback]
QUOTE(OboeJuan @ Sep 23 2007, 05:16 AM) [snapback]376944[/snapback]
Okay. I think I get it now. The pen is metal. I thought there were two diffwerent models (one was metal and the other was that pretty blue see-through section. I would buy the pretty blue one, but not the metal one. Apparently, I prefer Pelikans in their underwear.

Kath



I only like ladies in their underwear!


This one is He or She ? glare.gif
Clive Merrick Morel
QUOTE(pankaj @ Oct 4 2007, 11:32 PM) [snapback]386174[/snapback]
This one is He or She ? glare.gif

This one is a SHE . . . as in Her Majesty. biggrin.gif
Russ
The Majesty is stunning in its clean simplicity. As in fine artistic expression, what is absent reinforces the beauty of what is so sparingly and beautifully portrayed. In this case, I find my eye wanting to see more while I admire the depth of thought and care that went in to such a restrained, noble design. This, in my opinion, is at the essence of "majesty:" a crass adolescent striving to be noticed is left behind unneeded because majesty simply is.

I also wish my wallet had the simple nobility to able to afford one.... crybaby.gif
Clive Merrick Morel
QUOTE(Russ @ Oct 5 2007, 06:34 AM) [snapback]386251[/snapback]
The Majesty is stunning in its clean simplicity. As in fine artistic expression, what is absent reinforces the beauty of what is so sparingly and beautifully portrayed. In this case, I find my eye wanting to see more while I admire the depth of thought and care that went in to such a restrained, noble design. This, in my opinion, is at the essence of "majesty:" a crass adolescent striving to be noticed is left behind unneeded because majesty simply is.

I also wish my wallet had the simple nobility to able to afford one.... crybaby.gif

Hello, Russ

I suggest you seriously consider submitting your exquisite description of The Majesty to the head honchos at Pelikan. You never know . . . they might GIVE you one!!!

BRAVO, Sir! clap1.gif

Best Regards,


-Clive
Russ
Thank you, Clive! You are quite generous.

I think I will submit to Pelikan. It will be enjoyable to see how they respond.

Russ

Bennington1967
There is one on Ebay now. The only thing that bothers me about this pen is that you have to unscrew it to fill it. It seems pointless unless it's a CC filler, which this one is not.

Anyway, it does look nice, certainly nicer than the other non-Montblanc German sterling silver fountain pen, the Faber-Castell, which is rather dull looking and lightweight. At 62g the Majesty has nice heft.

Oh well, I now have two sterling pens I want by Christmas: the Duofold Esparto and this one. My bank account is dying.
Clive Merrick Morel
QUOTE(Russ @ Oct 6 2007, 04:48 PM) [snapback]387301[/snapback]
Thank you, Clive! You are quite generous.

I think I will submit to Pelikan. It will be enjoyable to see how they respond.

Russ


'Twas my pleasure, Russ!.. I just call 'em as I see 'em!!! thumbup.gif ...Pelikan will undoubtedly be very impressed by your passionate description of their regal Majesty.

Wouldn't it be geat if they *DID* send you a new Majesty -- enhanced by the inclusion of a signed Record of Authentication -- all contained within a one-of-a-kind presentation box, constructed entirely from rare African woods, sporting platinum/gold inlays?

The realistic scenario may be slightly different, however... They may elect to send you a Spartan e-mail response, probably something not too unlike the following:. "Thank you for your interest in Pelikan products... The Pelikan M7000 Majesty is currently available; the retail cost has been set at $1,200.00... We sincerely hope you continue using our many fine products and further, humbly request you spread the word regarding the Pelikan line among family and friends."


-Clive biggrin.gif
Russ
I rather expect the formal response and not the presentation box. rolleyes.gif
However, I did ask for a direct e-mail to staff in order to make a connection.
omasfan
I recently held and textdrove it. A wonderful pen. Feels much larger than an 600 in my hand. High quality made. The only concern: I would'nt want to spend even $700 on a sterling pen. I don't know. They get scratched up pretty quickly...
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