Hi everyone,
I am a second year non-traditional (OLD) law student that discovered that note taking by computer caused me to be very removed from the class discussion. In an attempt to fix the problem, I returned to taking notes the old fashioned way. As a treat to myself, I decided that if I was going to write instead of type, I should at least be doing so with something I enjoyed using.Now many pens later, I feel I am getting the most out of my classes and I now write real letters to friends instead of e-mail. I have lurked and gotten advice from this board for a while now, and like many others, have developed a bit of an obsesion with fountain pens, even worse, stubs and italics. Thanks for all the advice and the monkey for my back.
Best,
Michael
P.S. For what it is worth to any students reading this, go back to taking notes by hand, you will be more engaged in the class and less distracted by all the things associated with your computer, your education will thank you, you might even learn something!
Full Version: Hello from Albuquerque, New Mexico
But if you do not user the 'puter, how can you surf the internet and IM your classmates?
For real though, I just finished LS. I was a member of the first class at my school where laptops were REQUIRED. We paid for them with our tuition.
During my first year, I did not use the computer in class. I took all my notes, and briefed all my cases, in the casebook. I used the Law School Confidential highlighting method and then wrote really small with mech pencils (.3 mm lead).
At the end of it all, I have concluded that there is something that happens with the transer of information from pencil to brain, and from keyboard to brain. This transfer happens differently for different people...
I am a FP person now, but I am also a total geek lawyer, and 90% of my time is spent in front of a PC. So it all depends on where you are headed.
Good luck with law school.
FWIW, I was a non-trad too.
For real though, I just finished LS. I was a member of the first class at my school where laptops were REQUIRED. We paid for them with our tuition.
During my first year, I did not use the computer in class. I took all my notes, and briefed all my cases, in the casebook. I used the Law School Confidential highlighting method and then wrote really small with mech pencils (.3 mm lead).
At the end of it all, I have concluded that there is something that happens with the transer of information from pencil to brain, and from keyboard to brain. This transfer happens differently for different people...
I am a FP person now, but I am also a total geek lawyer, and 90% of my time is spent in front of a PC. So it all depends on where you are headed.
Good luck with law school.
FWIW, I was a non-trad too.
Welcome to FPN, a great source of all pen related info. I used a pen all through college to take notes. Oh, that's right computers back then filled rooms with equipment.
Welcome to FPN from Kentucky!!
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But if you do not user the 'puter, how can you surf the internet and IM your classmates?
For real though, I just finished LS. I was a member of the first class at my school where laptops were REQUIRED. We paid for them with our tuition.
During my first year, I did not use the computer in class. I took all my notes, and briefed all my cases, in the casebook. I used the Law School Confidential highlighting method and then wrote really small with mech pencils (.3 mm lead).
At the end of it all, I have concluded that there is something that happens with the transer of information from pencil to brain, and from keyboard to brain. This transfer happens differently for different people...
I am a FP person now, but I am also a total geek lawyer, and 90% of my time is spent in front of a PC. So it all depends on where you are headed.
Good luck with law school.
FWIW, I was a non-trad too.
For real though, I just finished LS. I was a member of the first class at my school where laptops were REQUIRED. We paid for them with our tuition.
During my first year, I did not use the computer in class. I took all my notes, and briefed all my cases, in the casebook. I used the Law School Confidential highlighting method and then wrote really small with mech pencils (.3 mm lead).
At the end of it all, I have concluded that there is something that happens with the transer of information from pencil to brain, and from keyboard to brain. This transfer happens differently for different people...
I am a FP person now, but I am also a total geek lawyer, and 90% of my time is spent in front of a PC. So it all depends on where you are headed.
Good luck with law school.
FWIW, I was a non-trad too.
Yeah, it is amazing how much non-school "work" is done durring classes. I watched one person play a really intense video game for the entire class period, crazy.
We were also required to purchase laptops, the first class, strangely a large portion of the proffessors would rather we didn't for the reasons we discussed. I couldn't agree more with the writting being an important facet of learning, I wonder if younger kids who grew up on computers get the same thing from typing?
What kind of law are you practicing, are you enjoying it?
Best,
Michael
Hey, is the Frontier Grill still across from the University?
I used to love their posole, with a flour tortilla on the side.
I used to love their posole, with a flour tortilla on the side.
I have a theory that people who learned well via the transmittal from pen to brain led the evolutionary pack since time immemorial. However, this is changing. Those who learn better using the keyboard and monitor interface will begin to excel. I have not developed these thoughts at all, but I think one could test this.
I do not practice law, in the strict sense. It's my goal to work in electronic discovery, computer forensics, and other manner of litigation support. I have not started this career as of yet, but it is around the corner.
And yeah, I like it. So far.
My parents are in ABQ. Actually they sorta moved to CO Springs. Long story.
I do not practice law, in the strict sense. It's my goal to work in electronic discovery, computer forensics, and other manner of litigation support. I have not started this career as of yet, but it is around the corner.
And yeah, I like it. So far.
My parents are in ABQ. Actually they sorta moved to CO Springs. Long story.
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Hey, is the Frontier Grill still across from the University?
I used to love their posole, with a flour tortilla on the side.
I used to love their posole, with a flour tortilla on the side.
Yeah, still there, still has the big pic of "the Duke" made of nails, and still serves some of the best green chile and breakfast buritos around! It is the one place that all my friends who have moved away NEVER miss when they come to visit. Give me a shout if you come to town!
Welcome to FPN.
I thought I'd chime in on the theme of using computers in the classroom. I teach philosophy at a university and do not allow any electronic devices in my classes. When I announce this on the first day of class, I am usually met with bewildered stares, especially in my Philosophy of Technology class, but I've had several students thank me for it as they came to realize how much more they learned by taking notes by hand. Of course, I still have yet to figure out how to keep them from tuning me out the old-fashioned way -- by daydreaming.
Also from Albuquerque. So you must frequent Pen and Pad and Santa Fe Pens?
Hello, and welcome to FPN.
Hi there. Wish you had joined a year ago... I was helping organize a System Safety Society conference in Albuquerque and I didn't know anyone involved in pens there - couldn't find any pen stores.
Did get an Esterbrook Desk set from an eBay seller hand delivered to the conference, but outside of that, it was pretty much a penless visit.
I was impressed with the short, intense rainstorms you can dig up on short notice there... we had to pull over because the visibility was essentially zero once, but the storm passed quickly.
Spent some time at Old Town, and had our wind up banquet at the Indian Pueblo Cultural Centre. Took the tram to the top of the mountain for a magnificant view of the city and surrounding area. What a view... (not for people who don't like heights...)
Became a big green chile fan.
Welcome to the FPN. Hope to see your posts all over the place!
Warm regards,
Gerry
Did get an Esterbrook Desk set from an eBay seller hand delivered to the conference, but outside of that, it was pretty much a penless visit.
I was impressed with the short, intense rainstorms you can dig up on short notice there... we had to pull over because the visibility was essentially zero once, but the storm passed quickly.
Spent some time at Old Town, and had our wind up banquet at the Indian Pueblo Cultural Centre. Took the tram to the top of the mountain for a magnificant view of the city and surrounding area. What a view... (not for people who don't like heights...)
Became a big green chile fan.
Welcome to the FPN. Hope to see your posts all over the place!
Warm regards,
Gerry
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