I was reading pentrace and I read part of what the seller had to say about Stephen and she posted his e-mail
I show part thats interesting
...The last pen of this magnitude that
> >
> > came up on ebay, a pen worth one hundred thousand dollars,
> >
> > went for peanuts. The seller was not aware of its value, got
> >
> > flooded with calls and removed it, only to sell it to an
> >
> > unsrupulous dealer who showed up at her door, for ten
> >
> > thousand dollars, totally unaware of what she had. Don't be
> >
> > fooled by all those supposed experts out there giving you
> >
> > false information....
When he states the part about the 100K pen going to a guy for 10k, which pen was this? I must have missed this, or want active on ebay.
Does anyone know what this pen was?
Full Version: Regarding RHR Giant
yeah buddy, it was an Aztec.
I think it was only a half pattern, and it had issues, but hence, it was an Aztec.
and it was a gold one, not as cool as the silver models.
and no way, in this market, is an Aztec worth 100K.
not even sure if my Parker Pen of Pens would draw that right now.
Now is the time to buy, buy, buy... market is going to fold.
Housing, Automotive, are in bad shape, dollar has tanked, bad news on wall street.
more to come for sure.
I think it was only a half pattern, and it had issues, but hence, it was an Aztec.
and it was a gold one, not as cool as the silver models.
and no way, in this market, is an Aztec worth 100K.
not even sure if my Parker Pen of Pens would draw that right now.
Now is the time to buy, buy, buy... market is going to fold.
Housing, Automotive, are in bad shape, dollar has tanked, bad news on wall street.
more to come for sure.
I agree with Rick that it was a half Aztek, but I seem to recall that it was silver with some toning to the metal, not gold. I would guess value on it would be closer to $25K-$30K, not the $100K Stephen mentioned.
By the way, the seller of the Red Giant posted something on Pentrace that the buyer (Keith Zaransky, who oversees the Sachs-Fultz collection) posted positive feedback about the pen. I'm sure it was 100% real.
Speaking of the Sachs-Fultz collection, Len Provisor posted a picture from a recent Chicago Pen Club meeting (which of course I missed) where Keith brought gold and silver snakes, gold and silver full swastikas, and gold and silver full aztecs. Nothing like driving around with couple of hundred grand in pens in your car.
All the best,
John Danza
By the way, the seller of the Red Giant posted something on Pentrace that the buyer (Keith Zaransky, who oversees the Sachs-Fultz collection) posted positive feedback about the pen. I'm sure it was 100% real.
Speaking of the Sachs-Fultz collection, Len Provisor posted a picture from a recent Chicago Pen Club meeting (which of course I missed) where Keith brought gold and silver snakes, gold and silver full swastikas, and gold and silver full aztecs. Nothing like driving around with couple of hundred grand in pens in your car.
All the best,
John Danza
QUOTE(borderboss @ Aug 19 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]353426[/snapback]
I agree with Rick that it was a half Aztek, but I seem to recall that it was silver with some toning to the metal, not gold. I would guess value on it would be closer to $25K-$30K, not the $100K Stephen mentioned.
By the way, the seller of the Red Giant posted something on Pentrace that the buyer (Keith Zaransky, who oversees the Sachs-Fultz collection) posted positive feedback about the pen. I'm sure it was 100% real.
Speaking of the Sachs-Fultz collection, Len Provisor posted a picture from a recent Chicago Pen Club meeting (which of course I missed) where Keith brought gold and silver snakes, gold and silver full swastikas, and gold and silver full aztecs. Nothing like driving around with couple of hundred grand in pens in your car.
All the best,
John Danza
By the way, the seller of the Red Giant posted something on Pentrace that the buyer (Keith Zaransky, who oversees the Sachs-Fultz collection) posted positive feedback about the pen. I'm sure it was 100% real.
Speaking of the Sachs-Fultz collection, Len Provisor posted a picture from a recent Chicago Pen Club meeting (which of course I missed) where Keith brought gold and silver snakes, gold and silver full swastikas, and gold and silver full aztecs. Nothing like driving around with couple of hundred grand in pens in your car.
All the best,
John Danza
yeah, I like that 100K+ riding around in my car. Wouldn't it be funny if Keith had some beater car, that was worth maybe $2500 or something? Maybe like an 89 Honda Accord with 230,000 miles on it. It would be like getting personalized plates for a Yugo. I doubt that any of those "high rollers" have crappy beater cars like the rest of us probably do.
I do appreciate the efforts of those heading up the museum, and further appreciate the efforts they exercise in getting these pens out in the public to be seen on occasion.
QUOTE(Rick Krantz @ Aug 19 2007, 03:16 PM) [snapback]353441[/snapback]
QUOTE(borderboss @ Aug 19 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]353426[/snapback]
I agree with Rick that it was a half Aztek, but I seem to recall that it was silver with some toning to the metal, not gold. I would guess value on it would be closer to $25K-$30K, not the $100K Stephen mentioned.
By the way, the seller of the Red Giant posted something on Pentrace that the buyer (Keith Zaransky, who oversees the Sachs-Fultz collection) posted positive feedback about the pen. I'm sure it was 100% real.
Speaking of the Sachs-Fultz collection, Len Provisor posted a picture from a recent Chicago Pen Club meeting (which of course I missed) where Keith brought gold and silver snakes, gold and silver full swastikas, and gold and silver full aztecs. Nothing like driving around with couple of hundred grand in pens in your car.
All the best,
John Danza
By the way, the seller of the Red Giant posted something on Pentrace that the buyer (Keith Zaransky, who oversees the Sachs-Fultz collection) posted positive feedback about the pen. I'm sure it was 100% real.
Speaking of the Sachs-Fultz collection, Len Provisor posted a picture from a recent Chicago Pen Club meeting (which of course I missed) where Keith brought gold and silver snakes, gold and silver full swastikas, and gold and silver full aztecs. Nothing like driving around with couple of hundred grand in pens in your car.
All the best,
John Danza
yeah, I like that 100K+ riding around in my car. Wouldn't it be funny if Keith had some beater car, that was worth maybe $2500 or something? Maybe like an 89 Honda Accord with 230,000 miles on it. It would be like getting personalized plates for a Yugo. I doubt that any of those "high rollers" have crappy beater cars like the rest of us probably do.
I do appreciate the efforts of those heading up the museum, and further appreciate the efforts they exercise in getting these pens out in the public to be seen on occasion.
Keith strikes me as a gracious and grounded fellow. I don't know what he drives- don't terribly care- but note that many very successful folks who do some very big business and are concerned with business not with appearances will drive very modest wheels. If it is safe and gets you to work, why waste money on a fulminantly depreciating asset? Kills me in our negative-savings society (first time btw since great depression that is so), folks on $30k incomes are leasing Lexi, whilst the grounded business success stories are happy with 7 year old honda.
d
no, I was adding that as a fun comment. I don't know what Keith drives, nor do I care, either.
I got vehicles that are all several years old, and like the idea that I drive older cars. Beats car payments.
Matter of fact, I bet I never buy another new car, again. I hate car payment.
One more thing, the 30K making Lexus leasing people are the problem we got now.
The financial markets are reporting trouble and more is down the pike.
It's good to be 401K POOR!
Suffer now, for the great days of retirement.
I got vehicles that are all several years old, and like the idea that I drive older cars. Beats car payments.
Matter of fact, I bet I never buy another new car, again. I hate car payment.
One more thing, the 30K making Lexus leasing people are the problem we got now.
The financial markets are reporting trouble and more is down the pike.
It's good to be 401K POOR!
Suffer now, for the great days of retirement.
QUOTE(Rick Krantz @ Aug 19 2007, 04:35 PM) [snapback]353485[/snapback]
no, I was adding that as a fun comment. I don't know what Keith drives, nor do I care, either.
I got vehicles that are all several years old, and like the idea that I drive older cars. Beats car payments.
Matter of fact, I bet I never buy another new car, again. I hate car payment.
One more thing, the 30K making Lexus leasing people are the problem we got now.
The financial markets are reporting trouble and more is down the pike.
It's good to be 401K POOR!
Suffer now, for the great days of retirement.
I got vehicles that are all several years old, and like the idea that I drive older cars. Beats car payments.
Matter of fact, I bet I never buy another new car, again. I hate car payment.
One more thing, the 30K making Lexus leasing people are the problem we got now.
The financial markets are reporting trouble and more is down the pike.
It's good to be 401K POOR!
Suffer now, for the great days of retirement.
Hi Rick,
Just to clarify- didn't think you were commenting about Keith, per se. Just seemed like good time to make the "what the heck is WITH our society" rant :-) Been doing some choice research couple years on our housing bubble. Recent stock market gyrations are- no joke- tip of iceberg. Will be an interesting couple years. How goes that ancient chinese curse? May you live in interesting times?
david
David, I got that one in a fortune cookie the other day.
As for my situation, my house will be paid off in about seven year, not bad, for a refi to 15 years, took advantage of those terribly low rates. Nice to know, if nothing else, I will have established equity, in a single dwelling property, in the suburbs. I'll be 39, or about, and can do it again. I'll but a second house, keep the first one, rent the original house, use the extra $$$ to put towards my new mortgage, hopefully have two house by the time I'm 55. I have a fear, that kids in my kid's generation are going to have a real hard time earning a living to provide home ownership, with all of the outsourcing of jobs, and what not, we are in for hard times. At some point, a 5K rhr Giant will not be even a consideration, unless something is done to get the system back in line. If nothing else, I will be able to sorta gift them affordable properties, and still find a place to live myself. One thing for sure, everyone needs a place to live. 40 and 50 year mortgages, interest only loans, 6 and seven year car loans are not a good starting point.
As for my situation, my house will be paid off in about seven year, not bad, for a refi to 15 years, took advantage of those terribly low rates. Nice to know, if nothing else, I will have established equity, in a single dwelling property, in the suburbs. I'll be 39, or about, and can do it again. I'll but a second house, keep the first one, rent the original house, use the extra $$$ to put towards my new mortgage, hopefully have two house by the time I'm 55. I have a fear, that kids in my kid's generation are going to have a real hard time earning a living to provide home ownership, with all of the outsourcing of jobs, and what not, we are in for hard times. At some point, a 5K rhr Giant will not be even a consideration, unless something is done to get the system back in line. If nothing else, I will be able to sorta gift them affordable properties, and still find a place to live myself. One thing for sure, everyone needs a place to live. 40 and 50 year mortgages, interest only loans, 6 and seven year car loans are not a good starting point.
QUOTE(Rick Krantz @ Aug 19 2007, 05:06 PM) [snapback]353498[/snapback]
David, I got that one in a fortune cookie the other day.
As for my situation, my house will be paid off in about seven year, not bad, for a refi to 15 years, took advantage of those terribly low rates. Nice to know, if nothing else, I will have established equity, in a single dwelling property, in the suburbs. I'll be 39, or about, and can do it again. I'll but a second house, keep the first one, rent the original house, use the extra $$$ to put towards my new mortgage, hopefully have two house by the time I'm 55. I have a fear, that kids in my kid's generation are going to have a real hard time earning a living to provide home ownership, with all of the outsourcing of jobs, and what not, we are in for hard times. At some point, a 5K rhr Giant will not be even a consideration, unless something is done to get the system back in line. If nothing else, I will be able to sorta gift them affordable properties, and still find a place to live myself. One thing for sure, everyone needs a place to live. 40 and 50 year mortgages, interest only loans, 6 and seven year car loans are not a good starting point.
As for my situation, my house will be paid off in about seven year, not bad, for a refi to 15 years, took advantage of those terribly low rates. Nice to know, if nothing else, I will have established equity, in a single dwelling property, in the suburbs. I'll be 39, or about, and can do it again. I'll but a second house, keep the first one, rent the original house, use the extra $$$ to put towards my new mortgage, hopefully have two house by the time I'm 55. I have a fear, that kids in my kid's generation are going to have a real hard time earning a living to provide home ownership, with all of the outsourcing of jobs, and what not, we are in for hard times. At some point, a 5K rhr Giant will not be even a consideration, unless something is done to get the system back in line. If nothing else, I will be able to sorta gift them affordable properties, and still find a place to live myself. One thing for sure, everyone needs a place to live. 40 and 50 year mortgages, interest only loans, 6 and seven year car loans are not a good starting point.
Don't buy house next couple years. DONT buy house next couple years. Your business model has merit. Wait five years for next purchase, though. To not will be to regret. No joke. Not facetious this time.
Good chat over beer n' cheese no doubt. Come to Ohio. Hate to have to wait to Philly.
BTW still need to talk to you about those darn watches :-)
david
You guys are making my stomach hurt.
QUOTE(david i @ Aug 19 2007, 09:18 PM) [snapback]353504[/snapback]
QUOTE(Rick Krantz @ Aug 19 2007, 05:06 PM) [snapback]353498[/snapback]
David, I got that one in a fortune cookie the other day.
As for my situation, my house will be paid off in about seven year, not bad, for a refi to 15 years, took advantage of those terribly low rates. Nice to know, if nothing else, I will have established equity, in a single dwelling property, in the suburbs. I'll be 39, or about, and can do it again. I'll but a second house, keep the first one, rent the original house, use the extra $$$ to put towards my new mortgage, hopefully have two house by the time I'm 55. I have a fear, that kids in my kid's generation are going to have a real hard time earning a living to provide home ownership, with all of the outsourcing of jobs, and what not, we are in for hard times. At some point, a 5K rhr Giant will not be even a consideration, unless something is done to get the system back in line. If nothing else, I will be able to sorta gift them affordable properties, and still find a place to live myself. One thing for sure, everyone needs a place to live. 40 and 50 year mortgages, interest only loans, 6 and seven year car loans are not a good starting point.
As for my situation, my house will be paid off in about seven year, not bad, for a refi to 15 years, took advantage of those terribly low rates. Nice to know, if nothing else, I will have established equity, in a single dwelling property, in the suburbs. I'll be 39, or about, and can do it again. I'll but a second house, keep the first one, rent the original house, use the extra $$$ to put towards my new mortgage, hopefully have two house by the time I'm 55. I have a fear, that kids in my kid's generation are going to have a real hard time earning a living to provide home ownership, with all of the outsourcing of jobs, and what not, we are in for hard times. At some point, a 5K rhr Giant will not be even a consideration, unless something is done to get the system back in line. If nothing else, I will be able to sorta gift them affordable properties, and still find a place to live myself. One thing for sure, everyone needs a place to live. 40 and 50 year mortgages, interest only loans, 6 and seven year car loans are not a good starting point.
Don't buy house next couple years. DONT buy house next couple years. Your business model has merit. Wait five years for next purchase, though. To not will be to regret. No joke. Not facetious this time.
Good chat over beer n' cheese no doubt. Come to Ohio. Hate to have to wait to Philly.
BTW still need to talk to you about those darn watches :-)
david
David, buy a house, when the market tanks in a few more months. Buy a property that is priced for the corrected market. Don't pay the inflated price for a house. It will correct, and soon.
I doubt that Ohio is gonna happen. I was hoping for DC, and that was a bust for me. Philly is only a few months away, and I'll be there in social capacity.
What's up with the watches? The automatic should be working great for you. My repair guy had that for so long, I figured he made every component over. I lost money on that venture, for sure. He said it got shocked hard, his best guess, but I told him that was impossible. Anyway, let me know, I think it had a 1 year warranty on the work done. I checked it for a few, and it kept perfect time.
As far as the other watch, I think you got Dave's contact info, right? If not, I will get it for you. I think at this point, he needs to work out that venture with you. He didn't want me handling the middle man duties last time, and now he needs to step up to the plate. If there is a problem, he needs to make it correct.
If a refund is in order, I need to bear responsibility for anything over $300. I figured the breakdown was $40 for mine, and $300 for his. If you figured a different balance or breakdown, and a refund is the route you decide, let me know, I will cover the difference, as long as you don't figure it was $339 for the one and $1 for mine.
keep me posted, either way. You know where I am.
Best!
Rick
QUOTE(jmkeuning @ Aug 19 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]353506[/snapback]
You guys are making my stomach hurt.
hey, you can come over for beer and cheese. too!
QUOTE(Rick Krantz @ Aug 19 2007, 06:09 PM) [snapback]353527[/snapback]
QUOTE(david i @ Aug 19 2007, 09:18 PM) [snapback]353504[/snapback]
QUOTE(Rick Krantz @ Aug 19 2007, 05:06 PM) [snapback]353498[/snapback]
David, I got that one in a fortune cookie the other day.
As for my situation, my house will be paid off in about seven year, not bad, for a refi to 15 years, took advantage of those terribly low rates. Nice to know, if nothing else, I will have established equity, in a single dwelling property, in the suburbs. I'll be 39, or about, and can do it again. I'll but a second house, keep the first one, rent the original house, use the extra $$$ to put towards my new mortgage, hopefully have two house by the time I'm 55. I have a fear, that kids in my kid's generation are going to have a real hard time earning a living to provide home ownership, with all of the outsourcing of jobs, and what not, we are in for hard times. At some point, a 5K rhr Giant will not be even a consideration, unless something is done to get the system back in line. If nothing else, I will be able to sorta gift them affordable properties, and still find a place to live myself. One thing for sure, everyone needs a place to live. 40 and 50 year mortgages, interest only loans, 6 and seven year car loans are not a good starting point.
As for my situation, my house will be paid off in about seven year, not bad, for a refi to 15 years, took advantage of those terribly low rates. Nice to know, if nothing else, I will have established equity, in a single dwelling property, in the suburbs. I'll be 39, or about, and can do it again. I'll but a second house, keep the first one, rent the original house, use the extra $$$ to put towards my new mortgage, hopefully have two house by the time I'm 55. I have a fear, that kids in my kid's generation are going to have a real hard time earning a living to provide home ownership, with all of the outsourcing of jobs, and what not, we are in for hard times. At some point, a 5K rhr Giant will not be even a consideration, unless something is done to get the system back in line. If nothing else, I will be able to sorta gift them affordable properties, and still find a place to live myself. One thing for sure, everyone needs a place to live. 40 and 50 year mortgages, interest only loans, 6 and seven year car loans are not a good starting point.
Don't buy house next couple years. DONT buy house next couple years. Your business model has merit. Wait five years for next purchase, though. To not will be to regret. No joke. Not facetious this time.
Good chat over beer n' cheese no doubt. Come to Ohio. Hate to have to wait to Philly.
BTW still need to talk to you about those darn watches :-)
david
David, buy a house, when the market tanks in a few more months. Buy a property that is priced for the corrected market. Don't pay the inflated price for a house. It will correct, and soon.
I doubt that Ohio is gonna happen. I was hoping for DC, and that was a bust for me. Philly is only a few months away, and I'll be there in social capacity.
What's up with the watches? The automatic should be working great for you. My repair guy had that for so long, I figured he made every component over. I lost money on that venture, for sure. He said it got shocked hard, his best guess, but I told him that was impossible. Anyway, let me know, I think it had a 1 year warranty on the work done. I checked it for a few, and it kept perfect time.
As far as the other watch, I think you got Dave's contact info, right? If not, I will get it for you. I think at this point, he needs to work out that venture with you. He didn't want me handling the middle man duties last time, and now he needs to step up to the plate. If there is a problem, he needs to make it correct.
If a refund is in order, I need to bear responsibility for anything over $300. I figured the breakdown was $40 for mine, and $300 for his. If you figured a different balance or breakdown, and a refund is the route you decide, let me know, I will cover the difference, as long as you don't figure it was $339 for the one and $1 for mine.
keep me posted, either way. You know where I am.
Best!
Rick
No worries. Both watches are cool and sure all works out. SEnt PM on details. :-)
d
Rick does watches, too?!
*sigh*
PM-ed
*sigh*
PM-ed
QUOTE(George @ Aug 19 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]353540[/snapback]
Rick does watches, too?!
*sigh*
PM-ed
*sigh*
PM-ed
not anymore. My last hurrah was at Philly, getting rid of stuff.
watches are too finicky for me.
QUOTE(George @ Aug 19 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]353540[/snapback]
Rick does watches, too?!
*sigh*
PM-ed
*sigh*
PM-ed
not anymore. My last hurrah was at Philly, getting rid of stuff.
watches are too finicky for me.
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