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Excoriar
First Impression:
Simple, but classic design.

Appearance:
Blue with silver trim. Nice color combinations. I like the monochromatic color scheme offered instead of the usual gold.

Design:
Nice classic design. I do like the blue. But a bit thin for my liking. Girth is close to the Parker Frontier or Graf von Faber Castell Grenadilla that I have.

Nib:
18k M Nib, but writes like a bigger nib. I’m not sure if it’s the combination of the ink and the paper, as the ink runs on the paper. So I'm guessing a very wet writer, but a very smooth writer too. Tried the pen again today and realized that the pen has a small flexy nib and I am able to get some good line variations almost to the point of my Pilot Super 300. I was very surprised as I have never noticed this before, but the nib is no where nearly as flexible as the Pilot. I guess the pen writes wet and broad for a reason.

Filling System:
Converter or Cartridge. Box came with a box containing 10 cartridges. The converter is screwed in, so when trying to clean don't pull on it. Turning it will yield much better results.

Cost and Value:
I got it cheap. So I guess the value is pretty good. Comes with a 2 year warranty.

Conclusion:
Overall a nice pen, but the nib does worry me as it writes much wider than I expected. I’ll have to experiment and see if it’s the paper or a combination of the paper and ink.

Leo

* Updated the nib section.
Penlover
Thanks for the review thumbup.gif
Excoriar
Ok, now I found this bottle of De Atramentis Rembrandt in the box, perhaps the gentleman we bought it from decided to throw us a freebie? I tested out the Sidecar with this ink by dipping it and the ink does not run, resulting in a sliiightly thicker line than my other M-Nibs. So I do believe that it is the ink which is causing the nib to run like it did. Time to find some good ink.
Bennington1967
I have a Dunhill Sidecar. It's actually a very nice pen, and though not long when capped it's quite good to write with unposted as the cap is short and the barrel relatively long. The medium nib is typical of a European fountain pen, so relatively broad when compared to a Japanese nib, though not unusually so.
Idiopathos
The nib and ink feed are Namiki, aren't they? Indeed, one of my Dunhills came with a Pilot (aka Namiki, of course) converter.

My experience of the Sidecar is that, yes, it does write 'wide and wet' (with Diamine), which I've now come to like a lot. The nib is interesting to use and produces distinctive lines.

I find the pen very well made, as all Dunhill pens are. It certainly rivals the big names. The engine-turned metal section is practical to use and the pen as a whole has good heft.

I look forward to Dunhill's next fountain pen. (And am trying to find another AD2000, because mine is such a good pen.)
Jerry
I bought a Dunhill Sidecar as an impulse buy and then worried if my need for instant gratification had led me astray.

It is very substantially built. I like the fact that the converter screws in. Mine is also a medium nib and floats the ink out nicely. It is a smooth writer and that was part of the attraction.

All-in-all; A very nice pen IMHO.
greencobra
I missed this review when it was posted, glad it was bumped back. I like the look of this pen, if I ever see one pre-owned I might consider it. I'm just not wild about nibs that write wider lines than indicated or expected. A canidate for nib surgery if I got one. Thanks for the review.
pakmanpony
Good review! How do you like the knurled section?
flashvictor
I generally like my Dunhill Sidecar. I found the ink flow to be quite herky-jerky. I also found the the medium nib to be a bit wide (which I like). I also love the machined section. After about a year of trying to like the nib, I sent it to Greg Minuskin to be spruced up. Now I really like the pen!
rattybad1
Thanks for the review! I've been meaning to look into one of these but had no idea what they were like.
Penlover
I tested the Dunhill Sidecar for a few days because I want to buy one. My impressions: the nib was to wet for me. The rest of the pen was OK, I like it very much, but the nib....

Regards
Excoriar
Update my impression on the nib after I decided to give it another try today. I was pleasantly surprised!
Bill Smith
Thanks for the interesting review on the Sidecar, I have been interested in this pen for a while. Thanks for the heads up on the medium nib, I will make mine a fine.

Bill
MikeW
I agree with the comments that have been made. I have the tortoise colour with a medium nib and it is a wet writer. I am not sure that the line is any wider than a typical medium - I think that depends on your frame of reference (European or Japanese). It is a good pen for lighter colour inks. For example, I first tried it with Herbin Poussier de Lune and it showed very well on paper.

The pen is well built and does have a nice heft despite its relative "thinness".

A very good looking pen (clean lines, in the shape of a torpedo) and good value.

Overall, I am extremely happy and quite impressed with it. So much so that I am interested in picking up an AD2000.
Bennington1967
I've just picked up a Sidecar Sterling Limited Edition at a hefty discount! What a nice pen!! The M nib suits me fine. biggrin.gif
Idiopathos
QUOTE(Idiopathos @ Sep 6 2007, 11:00 PM) [snapback]365160[/snapback]
The nib and ink feed are Namiki, aren't they? Indeed, one of my Dunhills came with a Pilot (aka Namiki, of course) converter.
My experience of the Sidecar is that, yes, it does write 'wide and wet' (with Diamine), which I've now come to like a lot. The nib is interesting to use and produces distinctive lines.
I find the pen very well made, as all Dunhill pens are. It certainly rivals the big names. The engine-turned metal section is practical to use and the pen as a whole has good heft.
I look forward to Dunhill's next fountain pen. (And am trying to find another AD2000, because mine is such a good pen.)

Since writing the above in early September, the Sidecar has, by early December, become my 'grab-it-and-go' pen. Its weight gives it the feeling of being robust, which encounters with the edges of desks, lamps, computer screens and two floors confirm.

Its converter has converted me (ouch!) to converters. It - a Pilot, of course - is capacious, easy to fill full and just works well.

The cap stays capped and does not unscrew in my pocket. It also posts well, because of the metal ring on the barrel. The edge of the cap is metal-lined and looks split-resistant.

The nib has developed, as new nibs do, and is smoother and a little more flexible, although it had both of these qualities fresh from the box. It provides a well-coloured line, with some shape on demand.

The issues of wetness and width have disappeared. I ascribe this to two reasons. 'Diamine' - for me, a slow ink, compared to, for example, 'Jentle'. And the width just seems narrower now the flow is slower.

If I see another Sidecar at a reasonable price, I shall certainly buy it.
StephY
The Sidecar is by far the wettest writer I own. I write mostly with Pelikan Royal Blue. I like the fit and finish of the pen very much. However, mine really likes to unscrew itself in my pocket, in my briefcase, etc.

It's staying home to play now.
flashvictor
QUOTE(StephY @ Jan 31 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]498515[/snapback]
The Sidecar is by far the wettest writer I own. I write mostly with Pelikan Royal Blue. I like the fit and finish of the pen very much. However, mine really likes to unscrew itself in my pocket, in my briefcase, etc.

It's staying home to play now.

I've never had any problems with the cap staying on, but the nib/converter mech does come slightly unscrewed from the body. I find it prefers either omas sepia or aurora black for ink.

Chris
Deirdre
I wasn't interested in a sidecar until this review was bumped. I realized today that what I considered kind of boring in design is simply vintage, and very much like a vintage pen I've got.
LucVdB
I am bothered by the fact whether or not the cap "easily unscrews" when the pen is stored in pocket or briefcase.
Two people gave different comments : IDIOPATHOS and FLASHVICTOR state it doesn't and STEPHY mentions it as a "weak point" of this pen.
It might have to do with the (male) thread between barrel and cap, which depending on the finish or version of the pen is either in "resin" or (plated) metal (brass ?). Could you please comment on that point ?
I have a "mini sidecar rollerball" with both male and female threads in plated metal; I have the habit of firmly thightening screw caps and have no bad experiences about it coming lose on this pen.
Thanks in advance for your comments !
Luc
StephY
QUOTE(LucVdB @ Feb 28 2008, 11:33 PM) [snapback]529750[/snapback]
I am bothered by the fact whether or not the cap "easily unscrews" when the pen is stored in pocket or briefcase.
Two people gave different comments : IDIOPATHOS and FLASHVICTOR state it doesn't and STEPHY mentions it as a "weak point" of this pen.
It might have to do with the (male) thread between barrel and cap, which depending on the finish or version of the pen is either in "resin" or (plated) metal (brass ?). Could you please comment on that point ?
I have a "mini sidecar rollerball" with both male and female threads in plated metal; I have the habit of firmly thightening screw caps and have no bad experiences about it coming lose on this pen.
Thanks in advance for your comments !
Luc


The thread in my Sidecar is resin. While I used to carry it lose in my briefcase pocket I have rid myself of this habit and now carry it in a zippered pen case. Since it now rests in its own little slot, it has not unscrewed itself the way it used to.

It may be a characteristic of my Sidecar, I do find that the threads are not so secure. I find myself having to tighten the threads between the barrel and the section. This has not detracted from the way the pen performs, at least for me.
Classics
I can't believe that I don't see more reviews about this pen. I just saw this pen in the pen store and fell in love with the pen right away.
I am going to buy the Tortise Fine nib when I get a chance. Pictures do not any justice for this pen.

Mr Classics
Classics
I just picked up the Tortise SideCar fountain pen. The pen nib writes like butter.

Classics
Idiopathos
QUOTE(LucVdB @ Feb 29 2008, 05:33 AM) [snapback]529750[/snapback]
I am bothered by the fact whether or not the cap "easily unscrews" when the pen is stored in pocket or briefcase.
Two people gave different comments : IDIOPATHOS and FLASHVICTOR state it doesn't and STEPHY mentions it as a "weak point" of this pen.
It might have to do with the (male) thread between barrel and cap, which depending on the finish or version of the pen is either in "resin" or (plated) metal (brass ?). Could you please comment on that point ?
I have a "mini sidecar rollerball" with both male and female threads in plated metal; I have the habit of firmly thightening screw caps and have no bad experiences about it coming lose on this pen.
Thanks in advance for your comments !
Luc

Yes, the section of my (blue) Sidecar used to loosen itself from the barrel. Indeed, it did it all by itself, even if left in a case on my desk. Now, I just give it a good tweak to tighten it.

Like the AD2000, there is progressive resistence as you tighten the section in the barrel, which, I think I have read elsewhere, contributes to the suitability of Dunhill fountain pens for air travellers.
Classics
I have been using my new sidecar for a few weeks now and have not had any cap screw issues.

But I agree with Idiopatho that if the screw becomes loose, I will just tighen the screw cap.

Sincerely,
Mr. Classics
Idiopathos
QUOTE(Idiopathos @ Dec 8 2007, 08:39 PM) [snapback]441530[/snapback]
QUOTE(Idiopathos @ Sep 6 2007, 11:00 PM) [snapback]365160[/snapback]
The nib and ink feed are Namiki, aren't they? Indeed, one of my Dunhills came with a Pilot (aka Namiki, of course) converter.
My experience of the Sidecar is that, yes, it does write 'wide and wet' (with Diamine), which I've now come to like a lot. The nib is interesting to use and produces distinctive lines.
I find the pen very well made, as all Dunhill pens are. It certainly rivals the big names. The engine-turned metal section is practical to use and the pen as a whole has good heft.
I look forward to Dunhill's next fountain pen. (And am trying to find another AD2000, because mine is such a good pen.)

Since writing the above in early September, the Sidecar has, by early December, become my 'grab-it-and-go' pen. Its weight gives it the feeling of being robust, which encounters with the edges of desks, lamps, computer screens and two floors confirm.

Its converter has converted me (ouch!) to converters. It - a Pilot, of course - is capacious, easy to fill full and just works well.

The cap stays capped and does not unscrew in my pocket. It also posts well, because of the metal ring on the barrel. The edge of the cap is metal-lined and looks split-resistant.

The nib has developed, as new nibs do, and is smoother and a little more flexible, although it had both of these qualities fresh from the box. It provides a well-coloured line, with some shape on demand.

The issues of wetness and width have disappeared. I ascribe this to two reasons. 'Diamine' - for me, a slow ink, compared to, for example, 'Jentle'. And the width just seems narrower now the flow is slower.

If I see another Sidecar at a reasonable price, I shall certainly buy it.

By the end of April, I'm quite irritated by my Sidecar. Filled with Quink now, it is seeing more use than all my other pens put together.
Idiopathos
QUOTE(Idiopathos @ Dec 8 2007, 08:39 PM) [snapback]441530[/snapback]
QUOTE(Idiopathos @ Sep 6 2007, 11:00 PM) [snapback]365160[/snapback]
The nib and ink feed are Namiki, aren't they? Indeed, one of my Dunhills came with a Pilot (aka Namiki, of course) converter.
My experience of the Sidecar is that, yes, it does write 'wide and wet' (with Diamine), which I've now come to like a lot. The nib is interesting to use and produces distinctive lines.
I find the pen very well made, as all Dunhill pens are. It certainly rivals the big names. The engine-turned metal section is practical to use and the pen as a whole has good heft.
I look forward to Dunhill's next fountain pen. (And am trying to find another AD2000, because mine is such a good pen.)

Since writing the above in early September, the Sidecar has, by early December, become my 'grab-it-and-go' pen. Its weight gives it the feeling of being robust, which encounters with the edges of desks, lamps, computer screens and two floors confirm.

Its converter has converted me (ouch!) to converters. It - a Pilot, of course - is capacious, easy to fill full and just works well.

The cap stays capped and does not unscrew in my pocket. It also posts well, because of the metal ring on the barrel. The edge of the cap is metal-lined and looks split-resistant.

The nib has developed, as new nibs do, and is smoother and a little more flexible, although it had both of these qualities fresh from the box. It provides a well-coloured line, with some shape on demand.

The issues of wetness and width have disappeared. I ascribe this to two reasons. 'Diamine' - for me, a slow ink, compared to, for example, 'Jentle'. And the width just seems narrower now the flow is slower.

If I see another Sidecar at a reasonable price, I shall certainly buy it.

And now, the best part of 6 months later, the Sidecar keeps most of my other pens at home. The Visconti Wall Street sees the light of day once or twice a month. And that's it. I really must make the effort to take the others out to play. The trouble is that the Sidecar just does every pen job I need so well.
flodoc
QUOTE(Idiopathos @ Dec 8 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]441530[/snapback]
QUOTE(Idiopathos @ Sep 6 2007, 11:00 PM) [snapback]365160[/snapback]
The nib and ink feed are Namiki, aren't they? Indeed, one of my Dunhills came with a Pilot (aka Namiki, of course) converter.
My experience of the Sidecar is that, yes, it does write 'wide and wet' (with Diamine), which I've now come to like a lot. The nib is interesting to use and produces distinctive lines.
I find the pen very well made, as all Dunhill pens are. It certainly rivals the big names. The engine-turned metal section is practical to use and the pen as a whole has good heft.
I look forward to Dunhill's next fountain pen. (And am trying to find another AD2000, because mine is such a good pen.)

Since writing the above in early September, the Sidecar has, by early December, become my 'grab-it-and-go' pen. Its weight gives it the feeling of being robust, which encounters with the edges of desks, lamps, computer screens and two floors confirm.

Its converter has converted me (ouch!) to converters. It - a Pilot, of course - is capacious, easy to fill full and just works well.

The cap stays capped and does not unscrew in my pocket. It also posts well, because of the metal ring on the barrel. The edge of the cap is metal-lined and looks split-resistant.

The nib has developed, as new nibs do, and is smoother and a little more flexible, although it had both of these qualities fresh from the box. It provides a well-coloured line, with some shape on demand.

The issues of wetness and width have disappeared. I ascribe this to two reasons. 'Diamine' - for me, a slow ink, compared to, for example, 'Jentle'. And the width just seems narrower now the flow is slower.

If I see another Sidecar at a reasonable price, I shall certainly buy it.


I also have a blue Sidecar with medium nib. The nib and feed is very similar to a Montblanc 144 nib and feed, so I suspect they are made by the same manufacturer. Also, the Namiki nibs and sections tend to be larger and the converter has a very wide mouth as opposed to the European standard. I also have three AD2000 Dunhills that do have Namiki nibs and converters. Apparently not all Dunhill nibs, feeds and sections come from the same source.
mr goldfink
QUOTE(Classics @ Mar 19 2008, 02:07 AM) [snapback]550027[/snapback]
I can't believe that I don't see more reviews about this pen. I just saw this pen in the pen store and fell in love with the pen right away.
I am going to buy the Tortise Fine nib when I get a chance. Pictures do not any justice for this pen.

Mr Classics


Hey Mr Classics - I totally agree with you. This really is a classic pen. I have just bought the tortoise with a medium nib and a black one as well to boot.

I could not resist as after having waited some 3 years to get one for a good price a local store let these babies go for a very good price. I didn't think this day would come for like Montblanc it seems that Dunhill have tight control on what promotions retailers can offer customers to maintain brand value.

I am very happy with these pens. Take this from someone who only owns 3 modern pens - the two Dunhills and a Faber Castell e-Motion in chevron lacquer (another beauty of a pen with great girth and a super fluid line). I rarely deviate from vintage unless a modern pen really catches my attention. The Sidecar did as did the e-Motion.
Robin
Hi Mr Goldfink in Edinburgh!

Where did you get the good deal on the sidecar?

I bought a black rollerball last month, and a nice FP would really go along nicely.....
thumbup.gif

georges zaslavsky
I tried the side car but I still prefer the ad 2000 that I own over it. The nib on the ad 2000 is more smooth and more consistent.
Classics
QUOTE(mr goldfink @ Jun 29 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]655428[/snapback]
QUOTE(Classics @ Mar 19 2008, 02:07 AM) [snapback]550027[/snapback]
I can't believe that I don't see more reviews about this pen. I just saw this pen in the pen store and fell in love with the pen right away.
I am going to buy the Tortise Fine nib when I get a chance. Pictures do not any justice for this pen.

Mr Classics


Hey Mr Classics - I totally agree with you. This really is a classic pen. I have just bought the tortoise with a medium nib and a black one as well to boot.

I could not resist as after having waited some 3 years to get one for a good price a local store let these babies go for a very good price. I didn't think this day would come for like Montblanc it seems that Dunhill have tight control on what promotions retailers can offer customers to maintain brand value.

I am very happy with these pens. Take this from someone who only owns 3 modern pens - the two Dunhills and a Faber Castell e-Motion in chevron lacquer (another beauty of a pen with great girth and a super fluid line). I rarely deviate from vintage unless a modern pen really catches my attention. The Sidecar did as did the e-Motion.



I am glad that you finally found a great price for the pen. I bought mine from world lux.com.
The first pen came damaged, but they exchanged the pen ASAP for me.
The colors on his pen is great. Truely Classic!

Regards........
classics
Idiopathos
Several more months down the road and the Sidecar (and the Rolex) are just getting too much use.

They do share qualities, of course: reliability, robustness and practicality.

However, other pens and watches are being neglected.
mr goldfink
QUOTE (Robin @ Jul 2 2008, 09:14 PM) *
Hi Mr Goldfink in Edinburgh!

Where did you get the good deal on the sidecar?

I bought a black rollerball last month, and a nice FP would really go along nicely.....
thumbup.gif


Hey Robin

Try Harvey Nicks in St Andrew Square. (First Floor) They have one Sidecar FP left and it is in royal blue. Grab it while you can - the price tag is way too hard to beat even when you check out US and South East Asian online outlets.

Let me know how you like it....

Cheers

Goldie
mr goldfink
QUOTE (georges zaslavsky @ Jul 4 2008, 09:44 PM) *
I tried the side car but I still prefer the ad 2000 that I own over it. The nib on the ad 2000 is more smooth and more consistent.


This may be true but the Sidecar is aesthetically the superior model and me, being a man, love with my eyes...

Cheers

mr goldfink
QUOTE (Idiopathos @ Jul 7 2008, 01:58 PM) *
Several more months down the road and the Sidecar (and the Rolex) are just getting too much use.

They do share qualities, of course: reliability, robustness and practicality.

However, other pens and watches are being neglected.


It is a superb modern pen but to be honest I am far more likely to use my vintage MB 146 for daily use oweing to its super responsive 1950s nib. But on decadent occasions I haul out the weighty Dunhill and enjoy the opulence of it all.
bilbok
Is $230 for a blue Turtle shell with M nib a good price ?

Many people say they bought theirs at hefty discount.

How much is a hefty discount for this pen ?
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