Looks like they have osme nice pens and a retractable nib, cool...

But how do you hold these? When I hold my pen I hae my index finger sit on top of the pen... I thought that is the proper way to hold a pen.
I figured the clip would be on the bottom, but looking at pics it seems that in order for th enib to be correct the clip is on top of the pen?
Any have any pics? This is really confusing.

My thumb and index finger are on either side of the clip when I write. I have never found it odd or uncomfortable to hold. I have two old Namiki VPs and they are great reliable writers that I heartily recommend.

I would consider it a natural tripod grip, with the thumb and index finger on the left and right of the clip respectively, and the middle finger on the bottom of the pen. For me, this is the natural grip I'd use with any pen (except the clip wouldn't be there).

gotcha. Thanks guys.