deitic_nib
Mar 7 2007, 03:44 AM
Is the resin on the MB Classiques real resin, or fake resin.
Kalessin
Mar 7 2007, 06:47 AM
This is a little tough to answer, because MB has used the names "classique" and "classic" for different models over time. Can you describe the pen any better, or reply with a URL?
petra
Mar 7 2007, 10:51 AM
??? What would "fake" resin be, compared to "real" resin?
Petra
aladdin_sane
Mar 7 2007, 11:04 AM
never been sure what the resin is. Where does it come from? How is it made?
deitic_nib
Mar 7 2007, 04:17 PM
My pen is a black, hommage a Chopin, and is the platinum line, is it the plastic that looks like resin, or the resin from the actual tree.
RSVP
Mar 7 2007, 04:31 PM
| QUOTE (deitic_nib @ Mar 7 2007, 05:17 PM) |
| My pen is a black, hommage a Chopin, and is the platinum line, is it the plastic that looks like resin, or the resin from the actual tree. |
Montblanc Resin is a glass composite resin, made so to achieve a light weight and high shine.
Lacquer [natural resin] formed of the Urushi tree is common to more oriental pens and applied over a wood, plastic or ebonite framework.
To my knowledge Montblanc has never made a natural lacquer pen of any form.
FrankB
Mar 7 2007, 10:58 PM
rimmerjar is right. I also wonder if there is such a thing as fake resin, though there are fake MB pens make with plastic.
I have always been intrigued by a comment that Andreas Lambrou (sp?) made in "Fountain Pens of the World." He said that Montblanc conducted "extensive research in injection molded plastics" during (I think) the 1970's. I assume that means the glass composite resin in MB's currrent pens is a cost-effective injection molded plastic made to look good but intended to maximize profits. My copy of Andy's book is currently stored and I am looking forward to going back to reread that segment of the book.
I am not bashing MB. This is an interesting topic that I have wondered about for years.
Allan
Mar 8 2007, 12:13 AM
| QUOTE (rimmerjar @ Mar 7 2007, 08:31 AM) |
| QUOTE (deitic_nib @ Mar 7 2007, 05:17 PM) | | My pen is a black, hommage a Chopin, and is the platinum line, is it the plastic that looks like resin, or the resin from the actual tree. |
Montblanc Resin is a glass composite resin, made so to achieve a light weight and high shine.
Lacquer [natural resin] formed of the Urushi tree is common to more oriental pens and applied over a wood, plastic or ebonite framework.
To my knowledge Montblanc has never made a natural lacquer pen of any form.
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Just to be clear, natural resin is not restricted to urushi, and indeed can be from something as common over here in the US as a pine tree.
Resin at Dictionary.com>>>
1. Any of numerous clear to translucent yellow or brown, solid or semisolid, viscous substances of plant origin, such as copal, rosin, and amber, used principally in lacquers, varnishes, inks, adhesives, synthetic plastics, and pharmaceuticals.
2. Any of numerous physically similar polymerized synthetics or chemically modified natural resins including thermoplastic materials such as polyvinyl, polystyrene, and polyethylene and thermosetting materials such as polyesters, epoxies, and silicones that are used with fillers, stabilizers, pigments, and other components to form plastics.
Lacquer at Dictionary.com>>>
1. a protective coating consisting of a resin, cellulose ester, or both, dissolved in a volatile solvent, sometimes with pigment added.
2. any of various resinous varnishes, esp. a resinous varnish obtained from a Japanese tree, Rhus verniciflua, used to produce a highly polished, lustrous surface on wood or the like.
3. Also called lacquer ware, lac·quer·ware. ware, esp. of wood, coated with such a varnish, and often inlaid: They collected fine Oriental lacquers.
4. Slang. any volatile solvent that produces euphoria when inhaled.
–verb (used with object)
5. to coat with lacquer.
6. to cover, as with facile or fluent words or explanations cleverly worded, etc.; obscure the faults of; gloss (often fol. by over): The speech tended to lacquer over the terrible conditions.
So looking at these it seems that lacquer is a coating over another material, whereas resin, while being capable of being a lacquer is also capable of being a base, but lacquer is not.
I make this distinction because you went from MB making pens from resin, to resin being a lacquer, to MB not using lacquer. Now weather MB uses natural or synthetic resin is another story of which I know nothing :-)
Allan