lisa
Mar 5 2007, 09:50 PM
Unexpectately I got a parker Jotter FP today. I had a spare parker converter lying around, so I thought I might as well try it out and write a review about it.
I've done the ritual cleaning of flushing it with soapy water and rinsing it first just to make sure I got the optimal performance out of it. I filled it with Parker Quink washable blue ink.
Looks and feel It has a red plastic barrel and a black plastic section, a stainless steel nib and cap.
It feels very light and very cheap. Uncapped it also looks cheap. Capped it's still very light. I don't like posting my pens, even the lightweight ones, but this one feels better posted.

The pen is very slim and sometimes uncomfortable to hold because of that, even with my small hands.
The nib As said, stainless steel, mine says it's an F on the feed. But it writes closer to an M, very close to an M. It was scratchy when I got it but I adjusted the tines a bit because I had the feeling they were misaligned. It's better now. No longer scratchy but toothy allright! It has problems starting up and with downstrokes. Maby it needs some break in. But remember I already flushed with soapy water.
UPDATEWhen the person that gave me the pen heard about the troublesome nib she offered to go back to the shop for me. They just had a shipment of new Jotters in and she tried some and brought me a new, this time black, Jotter. This one has a smoother nib, not anything amazing but definitely better than the previous one and doesn't seem to have the starter or downstroke problems. It does make a strange clicking noise sometimes. I think the feed might be a bit loose in the section or something like that. But it writes pretty decent. ConclusionI give it a 6 minus out of 10. And at least one point of that 6 minus is for the nice stainless steel cap. Can't see any faults in that.
UPDATEI now give it a fat 6 out of 10, for the fact that it is a working pen. But it still feels cheap and my friend had to try out a few pens at the store before she found one that was satisfactory. The first pen she tried was writing way too wet. That makes QC for this pen poor.(BTW, read the update post below if you want to know what happens when a person who knows nothing about FPs, except that she can use them right, tries to exchange a faulty pen in a store where the nice sales people know nothing about FPs.) Otherwise it's a rather cheap plastic, that's far too lighweight, pen with a nib that I wouldn't write home about. Maybe my impression of the pen will be more positive when I've used it some more. If that is the case I'll update this review.
see the updates aboveIf you're looking for a cheap everyday writer where looks don't matter, I suggest that you look in the direction of the ever so slightly but still very cheap Parker Frontier. Or Pelikan Pelikano or the Waterman Kultur (even though I normally wouldn't recomment the Kultur with a fine nib because it's rather scratchy, but at least it writes flawlessly! From what I've read, a Kultur M is smooth and that would make that pen a very, very nice cheapy!)
All the above mentioned pens feel much sturdier and are far more reliable, and hardly cost that much more.
I'd like to add that where the Jotter ballpoint excells the Jotter FP fails. The ballpoint is a cheap reliable sturdy pen that looks and feels like it will last you years and years even with regular mild abuse. I don't get that feeling with the FP version of the Jotter.
Note! The picture is made with a camaraphone that makes everything look greenish. So please don't think that Quink washable blue looks like that.
Note2! To the Dutch folk. I know there is a spelling error in my written text.

I've written it fast and forgot a letter.
UPDATE Note3! I've added a pic of the black one in the box it came in.
georges zaslavsky
Mar 5 2007, 09:56 PM
Quite nice review

My very first parker was a vector. Enjoy your pen.
meanwhile
Mar 5 2007, 10:02 PM
Nice review!
hatherton_wood
Mar 6 2007, 12:33 AM
Why the Jotter is still in production whereas the 45 is apparently not beats me. There is just no comparison.
kkhon
Mar 6 2007, 12:53 AM
I've never seen a Jotter FP in person, but from the pic, the styling of this one just seems so... un-Jotter.
Just curious - how does the nib performs compared to its brother/cousin the Vector? (ah, the never-dry, oh-so-smooth and virtually-indestructible Vector nib)
Srehman
Mar 6 2007, 02:43 AM
I used both a Jotter FP and a Parker 88 (with an upscale Vector nib)-- the Vector nib was MUCH better-- as described, smooth, never-dry and sturdy.
Hans-Peter Ording
Mar 6 2007, 06:21 AM
Nice text
DavidM1
Mar 6 2007, 06:38 AM
My first fountain pen, when I rediscovered fountain pens about a year ago, was a Parker Jotter with a brushed stainless steel barrel and cap (a "flighter" I suppose). From the sound of your review you aren't terribly impressed but I think mine is just great. When it was my main pen for a week or two recently I found myself really enjoying it.
The steel cap blends beautifully with the steel body and the fit is spot on. It closes with a neat "snick". Definitely it needs to be posted because it is quite small, but it posts very well. The M nib in mine is smooth and the line is quite even with a hint of flex. I hardly use the pen these days but occasionally pick it up to address large coarse envelopes and such. It always writes first time. Mine would be a great starter pen for a child or anyone with smaller hands. It would also be a useful pen for a filofax or something similar. It sounds to me like the stainless steel barrel is the way to go with this pen.
Emil
Mar 6 2007, 06:56 AM
DavidM1 described exactly how I feel about the pen, so I do not need to describe

Just a picture of my couple and a question. BTW, be careful with plastic barrel Jotters if you live somewhere in Canada or in Russia. My black one has been broken on the frost. Not it's got a big split on the barrel and leaking, this pen is the modern one. I've got stainless steel about half a year ago and it's quite nice. It looks more expensive than it actually is. I've got this Jotter from friend who found it about 11 years ago, so I do not know the age of it. And it also says 1 on the feed, so this pen looks quite interesting for me. Can anyone say something about the age of the pen or what nib is it? Nib has got a little bit of flexibility...
FrankB
Mar 6 2007, 10:20 AM
Nice review, Lisa. Thanks.
I have not tried one of these pens, and now I won't bother. I do like to experiment with inexpensive pens because some of them can be quite nice. But if I must recommend a "cheapy" to someone, I will invariably turn to the Pelikano and the Pelikano Junior. After the Parker 45, I have yet to find an inexpensive Parker that I like.
mr T.
Mar 6 2007, 11:34 AM
Nice review,
I own an Jotter fp myself and do agree with you that it is a slim pen to hold. My Jotter fp has also an f-nib and is the all stainless steel version (flighter). I use it regularly and don't have any problems with scratchy nibs. It just worked without any problem out of the box and never skipped. The nib is quite sturdy and never had any problem with it, but the nib is a little smoother in a Vector. In my opinion the plastic Jotter fp's are not as good as the flighter Jotter fp's. In comparison, the all stainless steel version of the Jotter look and feel if it is a total different fp than the plastic one. And the difference in price between the plastic Jotter and the flighter Jotter is just about € 3,-. For that amount extra, you get a much better and more durable fp (that's probably more durable than a Kultur or a Pelikano).
lisa
Mar 6 2007, 01:47 PM
| QUOTE (kkhon @ Mar 6 2007, 01:53 AM) |
I've never seen a Jotter FP in person, but from the pic, the styling of this one just seems so... un-Jotter.
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The Jotter bit is in the cap and the size. When you cap it's a small pen with a jotter clip.
lisa
Mar 6 2007, 02:10 PM
| QUOTE (mr T. @ Mar 6 2007, 12:34 PM) |
| Nice review, |
Thanks!
| QUOTE (mr T. @ Mar 6 2007, 12:34 PM) |
Nice review,
In comparison,the all stainless steel version of the Jotter look and feel if it is a total different fp than the plastic one. And the difference in price between the plastic Jotter and the flighter Jotter is just about € 3,-. For that amount extra, you get a much better and more durable fp (that's probably more durable than a Kultur or a Pelikano). |
I disagree. Of course the steel barrel will probably be more durable than the plastic ones on the Pelikano and Kultur. But the latter two pens have much more durable plastic, especially the Pelikano, on the section than the jotter has.
I must have a bad nib, reading from other experiances. I adjusted the tines some more and now there is no scratchyness anymore. I wrote with it when the tines were still ever so slightly misaligned in my Clairefntaine notebook and it was absolutely horrible. It skipped whole letters and I had to press real hard to get, and to keep the ink flowing.
The tines are aligned now and I flushed with some more soapy water. It is better but I've still got start up problems and problems with downstrokes. On rougher paper it writes better on than Clairefontaine.
lisa
Mar 6 2007, 06:09 PM
UPDATEWhen my friend that gave this pen to me heard about the problems I had with it she said she still had the receipt and would go back to the store for me. And so she did.
My friend knows I like FPs, she used them in the past too and I gave her one for Xmas that she uses now with cartridges, but that's where her knowledge about FPs ends. Apparently the people in the local bookstore know about as much as she does. This store sells some (often lower end) fountain pens, as do most bookstore in Europe I guess, but nothing like fancy inks or even converters. Just cartridges and Quink black and washable blue.
My friend went to the store with my pen with a newer model parker twist converter in it. They just had a new shipment of Jotters and the person helping here told her to try some pens and pick the one she liked. The first one was way too wet and gushed ink. The second one wrote OK and she kept that one. She tried them all with my converter. It was still more than half full of ink when I gave it to her. It came back almost completely empty. The pens wouldn't write at first go, you know, when you have to wait for the ink to go trough the feed. The sales person told her to give it a good shake. The cap was filled with ink when it came back to me.
Stupid thing is, they had a twist converter, all you need to do is carefully twist it to push some ink through the feed.
Also, and this doesn't matter to me but still, the bookstore put my faulty pen back in display, and the ink gushing pen too. Without even flushing the ink out! When in fact both of them should have been send back to Parker.
When you live in the Netherlands and buy a pen at a common bookstore, I strongly advise you try it out before you buy.
In the end, all's good that ends good. I got a working pen now, and a black one, which I like better than the red one.
superfly
Mar 6 2007, 06:58 PM
| QUOTE (lisa @ Mar 6 2007, 08:09 PM) |
The pens wouldn't write at first go, you know, when you have to wait for the ink to go trough the feed. The sales person told her to give it a good shake. The cap was filled with ink when it came back to me. Stupid thing is, they had a twist converter, all you need to do is carefully twist it to push some ink through the feed. |
For new pen, it is usually enough to pop the cartridge in, turn the pen nib down, and the capillary action will bring the ink into the nib in around 30 seconds.
I actually like to see this process, and observe the gap between tines against light background. You can see the ink flowing down to the nib...
Lisa, congrats on your new pen. Now, go and get yourself a Kultur

cheers
Nenad
mr T.
Mar 6 2007, 07:09 PM
| QUOTE |
Also, and this doesn't matter to me but still, the bookstore put my faulty pen back in display, and the ink gushing pen too. Without even flushing the ink out! When in fact both of them should have been send back to Parker. When you live in the Netherlands and buy a pen at a common bookstore, I strongly advise you try it out before you buy.
In the end, all's good that ends good. I got a working pen now, and a black one, which I like better than the red one |
Sounds like a very negatieve experience with a happy ending. Does your black Jotter fp also has an f-nib? Saw on the photo that the black one has the old style packaging. A lot of them were sold in a blister pack (and you can still find a lot of them in department stores like Vroom en Dreesmann) without an indication of the nib. I agree with you about the small local bookshops in the Netherlands. Some are good and know what they sell, but most of them lack knowledge about fp's. These shops are also not cheaper than buying at a specialized penshop or at a department store (so I don't visit common bookstores anymore for fp's). Indeed, the shop the fp was bought had to send it back to Parker for repair or replacement (or otherwise they had to give you your money back).
lisa
Mar 6 2007, 07:28 PM
| QUOTE (mr T. @ Mar 6 2007, 08:09 PM) |
| QUOTE | Also, and this doesn't matter to me but still, the bookstore put my faulty pen back in display, and the ink gushing pen too. Without even flushing the ink out! When in fact both of them should have been send back to Parker. When you live in the Netherlands and buy a pen at a common bookstore, I strongly advise you try it out before you buy.
In the end, all's good that ends good. I got a working pen now, and a black one, which I like better than the red one |
Sounds like a very negatieve experience with a happy ending. Does your black Jotter fp also has an f-nib? Saw on the photo that the black one has the old style packaging. A lot of them were sold in a blister pack (and you can still find a lot of them in department stores like Vroom en Dreesmann) without an indication of the nib. I agree with you about the small local bookshops in the Netherlands. Some are good and know what they sell, but most of them lack knowledge about fp's. These shops are also not cheaper than buying at a specialized penshop or at a department store (so I don't visit common bookstores anymore for fp's). Indeed, the shop the fp was bought had to send it back to Parker for repair or replacement (or otherwise they had to give you your money back).
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I don't know about the blisterpack. This bookstore could have easily taken them out of it, or ordered pens without blisterpack, because of the way they put it on display. They said to my friend that this was a new shipment (That's why she got me another colour, when she bought the first one they only had red left.) so this package must be something that is still in production.
All the pens my friend tried had F nibs. I'm not even sure the bookstore sells Mediums. My guess is that the Jotters are sold to pen users, these pens aren't attractive for collectors or as a fancy gift, and the Parker F nib fit everyday use best. So maybe this bookstore only orders Fs.
They were very easy about giving a replacement but the next person is going to have the same problems that I had when they buy my previous pen.
-edit-
On a sidenote. I knew that there was something not quite right about the expression all's good that ends good. It must be all's well that ends well.
antigone
Mar 7 2007, 09:11 AM
| QUOTE (lisa @ Mar 6 2007, 06:09 PM) |
| This store sells some (often lower end) fountain pens, as do most bookstore in Europe I guess, but nothing like fancy inks or even converters. Just cartridges and Quink black and washable blue. |
I have to migrate.
Not a single bookstore in Germany sells fountain pens! And I work in a bookstore! Arrghhhh... life ain't fair
Lisa, wil je me niet adopteren alstublieft?
lisa
Mar 7 2007, 02:22 PM
| QUOTE (antigone @ Mar 7 2007, 10:11 AM) |
I have to migrate. Not a single bookstore in Germany sells fountain pens! And I work in a bookstore! Arrghhhh... life ain't fair  |
Maybe you should suggest stocking some?
Seriously, don't kids in germany learn to write with a FP? Many schools overhere require it.
| QUOTE (antigone @ Mar 7 2007, 10:11 AM) |
| Lisa, wil je me niet adopteren alstublieft? |
Is goed. Omdat je het zo lief vraagt!
antigone
Mar 7 2007, 07:22 PM
| QUOTE (lisa @ Mar 7 2007, 02:22 PM) |
| Seriously, don't kids in germany learn to write with a FP? Many schools overhere require it. |
Yes, most schools require FPs for first graders here too, though not everywhere anymore. They say the kids'd make a mess and should use pencils for learning how to write... (I guess I should thank heavens I never choked on an ink cartridge in grade 1).
Anyway, you can buy FPs in several shops in Germany, but not in bookstores. Now that you mentioned it I think that fountain pens would go really good with books... and we're selling quite a few kinds of pencils and ballpoint pens. Do dutch bookstores have a whole stationery aisle or is it just a board with pens next to the school books?
| QUOTE |
| Is goed. Omdat je het zo lief vraagt! |
Yay, I have a new home! I already moved in if you don't mind
lisa
Mar 7 2007, 07:40 PM
| QUOTE (antigone @ Mar 7 2007, 08:22 PM) |
Yes, most schools require FPs for first graders here too, though not everywhere anymore. They say the kids'd make a mess and should use pencils for learning how to write... (I guess I should thank heavens I never choked on an ink cartridge in grade 1). Anyway, you can buy FPs in several shops in Germany, but not in bookstores. Now that you mentioned it I think that fountain pens would go really good with books... and we're selling quite a few kinds of pencils and ballpoint pens. Do dutch bookstores have a whole stationery aisle or is it just a board with pens next to the school books? |
Depends on the bookstore, some have a separate stationary section, other less so.
I believe overhere the kids learn with pencil until they can properly hold a pen.
| QUOTE |
Yay, I have a new home! I already moved in if you don't mind  |
I've put some cottonwool in my pencase so you can sleep comfortable tonight.
FrankB
Mar 7 2007, 10:44 PM
The first fountain I ever bought with my own money was a Pelikan M-400 that I got in (then) West Berlin while I was stationed there. I have remembered all these years that I got it in a bookstore. Maybe it was a stationery shop. The store had a display window with Pelikan pens, stationery and books. I definitely recall the books. Do stationery shops in Germany sell books?
"Middle age don't have nothin' to do with a bad memory It's havin' all that stupid stuff to remember that causes a bad memory!"
antigone
Mar 8 2007, 08:55 AM
| QUOTE (FrankB @ Mar 7 2007, 10:44 PM) |
The first fountain I ever bought with my own money was a Pelikan M-400 that I got in (then) West Berlin while I was stationed there. I have remembered all these years that I got it in a bookstore. Maybe it was a stationery shop. The store had a display window with Pelikan pens, stationery and books. I definitely recall the books. Do stationery shops in Germany sell books?
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Uhh... its like everyone sells books in Germany, so I cant tell if you were in a stationery store that sold books or in a bookstore that sold stationery. Maybe its only recently that bookstores don't sell FPs anymore (I have to admit I'm too young to remember a 'West'-Berlin properly). I think it has been a while since US troops were stationed in Berlin, but I may be wrong there, other US bases stayed until, like, last year.
I revise my statement - there are no german bookstores I haver ever seen or heard of that sell fountain pens. Maybe it has become too unprofitable to sell consultation-intensive products when less and less people use them and you can't balance expenses by raising book prices? I don't know, I'll ask my coworker on saturday.
lefty928
Mar 8 2007, 03:33 PM
So, are most Kultur fine points scratchier than the Phileas F's? I was just about to buy one, as I like my Phileas a lot.
lisa
Mar 8 2007, 03:44 PM
| QUOTE (lefty928 @ Mar 8 2007, 04:33 PM) |
| So, are most Kultur fine points scratchier than the Phileas F's? I was just about to buy one, as I like my Phileas a lot. |
Oh yes. Or at least mine is A LOT scratchier than my Phileas F. I like my Phileas F a lot, one of my favorite writers. The Kultur F is a finer F, which doesn't matter much, but the scratchyness annoys me when I use it on lesser quality paper, catching the fibers and such. And the tines are aligned as far as I can tell.
From what I've read from other people with the Kultur F I got the feeling their pen doesn't differ much from mine.
Bernie0104
May 3 2007, 02:05 AM
QUOTE(DavidM1 @ Mar 6 2007, 07:38 AM) [snapback]247369[/snapback]
My first fountain pen, when I rediscovered fountain pens about a year ago, was a Parker Jotter with a brushed stainless steel barrel and cap (a "flighter" I suppose). From the sound of your review you aren't terribly impressed but I think mine is just great. When it was my main pen for a week or two recently I found myself really enjoying it.
The steel cap blends beautifully with the steel body and the fit is spot on. It closes with a neat "snick". Definitely it needs to be posted because it is quite small, but it posts very well. The M nib in mine is smooth and the line is quite even with a hint of flex. I hardly use the pen these days but occasionally pick it up to address large coarse envelopes and such. It always writes first time. Mine would be a great starter pen for a child or anyone with smaller hands. It would also be a useful pen for a filofax or something similar. It sounds to me like the stainless steel barrel is the way to go with this pen.
Yes, I totally agree here!
I own a Jotter FP (Flighter version), and find that it is a great little fountain pen! Mine is honestly a more reliable writer than either of my Parker Sonnets, one of which is an 18K gold nibbed version (which has already had two nib replacements and still ain't right).
Funnily enough, I had absent-mindedly left mine in a pen pot at work for around three months, unused, but loaded with a Quink blue cartridge. A workmate was looking to borrow a pen the other day and picked up the Jotter. "Ah, a good old fountain pen" he said and proceeded to write with the thing. To my surprise, it wrote first time - even after all that time in the pen pot, unloved and unused! Yeah, they're good pens - cheap and cheerful, but reliable as hell. Mine writes VERY smoothly, on the broad side of medium. I'd say go for the flighter though... it's much nicer than the plastic barrelled versions.
Bernie.
brutalbassman
May 3 2007, 02:35 AM
Ah, my first ever FP. I think reliable is an understatement. I'd put it in a drawer and forgotten about it for years, with a blue quink cartridge in it. Rediscovered it when I came to grad school, and it worked on the first try! I hardly use it, but it's excellent for what it is... a very cheap FP.
oh the days when office depot would carry them
lisa
May 3 2007, 12:20 PM
I must admit I've warmed up to it. It still feels and looks cheap but it's a reliable writer.
GirchyGirchy
May 4 2007, 07:36 PM
I currently own three of these pens, and don't think they're that bad. They certainly don't really feel like a quality pen, but hey, they're cheap. I have two plastic examples in white and black, both with fine nibs, and a Flighter with a medium that I got from DWL. The latter is the nicest of the trio, with a buttery nib, but the other two aren't bad either. They lay down a nice line without being scratchy or to either end of the wet/dry scale. Just a decent, cheap pen.
kissing
Jun 2 2007, 05:35 PM
I just got myself a stainless flighter Jotter. Very happy with it, though I shall make two points that will make some of the contraversy in this topic make sense
1. The nib is
exactly none other than a VECTOR NIB

. Pull out a Jotter nib, and shove it in a Vector with no nib, and vice versa. They're the same thing (note Vector nib = Reflex nib = Jotter nib)

2. I have owned so far three Vectors, and now this Parker Jotter. All of them are skippy and not at their best with Parker Quink (esp. the blues!). Try different ink, such as Waterman or even Noodlers

You'll see a dramatic improvement.
Nevertheless, where I am in Australia, the Jotter Flighters are a great purchase (here, Frontiers cost WAY more than Jotters, so the difference in quality is more apparent compared to cost

)
The pen that got me interested in fountain pens was the Jotter flighter rollerball - so purchasing a Jotter flighter fountain pen is quite a sentimental and nostalgic experience for me

They seem to be Parker's answer to inexpensive, mass produced fountain pens for people who are not necessarily big spenders on pens. My Jotter flighter is currently my special "take with me everywhere" pen. I love its sleekness and compactness, as a Jotter should be.
extrafine
Jun 10 2007, 05:01 AM
One of my first FPs was a jotter. Used it in elementary school, and am still fond of it. So fond of it that I'd taken to leaving it safely at home.
I eventually located another one via eBay. Also a great writer. I've seen $100 pens that write way worse. My only issue with it is that I've outgrown it: my fingers have gotten bigger since elementary school, and now it's painful to write with it for a long period of time. I found a very cheap Frontier on eBay and bought it out of curiosity. I find it rather nice: a bit like a "grown-up" Jotter. The Frontier is now (fortunately in fine point - the medium seems to be HUGE) the pen I use if I'm afraid of loss for whatever reason: I figure I can easily afford another one, but it's still a very decent pen. The worst I could say about it is that it occasionally skips in a very minor way on extremely smooth papers (like Clairefontaine). It does a very nice job on horrible papers like what comes out of the copier. It's the kind of pen that puts some of the "higher-end" products to shame, I think.
On a tangent, another favourite is the Rotring ArtPen EF. Cost me approximately $20. That took me through most of university and is still often in use. I cut off the long tail (and melted the plastic shut, then smoothed it round) so that the cap would post - otherwise, it was at risk of rolling off the desk all the time. Makes a fine writing pen if you ask me.
ecarag
Aug 23 2007, 10:42 PM
QUOTE(lisa @ Mar 6 2007, 05:50 AM) [snapback]247053[/snapback]
Unexpectately I got a parker Jotter FP today. I had a spare parker converter lying around, so I thought I might as well try it out and write a review about it.
I've done the ritual cleaning of flushing it with soapy water and rinsing it first just to make sure I got the optimal performance out of it. I filled it with Parker Quink washable blue ink.
Looks and feel It has a red plastic barrel and a black plastic section, a stainless steel nib and cap.
It feels very light and very cheap. Uncapped it also looks cheap. Capped it's still very light. I don't like posting my pens, even the lightweight ones, but this one feels better posted.

The pen is very slim and sometimes uncomfortable to hold because of that, even with my small hands.
The nib As said, stainless steel, mine says it's an F on the feed. But it writes closer to an M, very close to an M. It was scratchy when I got it but I adjusted the tines a bit because I had the feeling they were misaligned. It's better now. No longer scratchy but toothy allright! It has problems starting up and with downstrokes. Maby it needs some break in. But remember I already flushed with soapy water.
UPDATEWhen the person that gave me the pen heard about the troublesome nib she offered to go back to the shop for me. They just had a shipment of new Jotters in and she tried some and brought me a new, this time black, Jotter. This one has a smoother nib, not anything amazing but definitely better than the previous one and doesn't seem to have the starter or downstroke problems. It does make a strange clicking noise sometimes. I think the feed might be a bit loose in the section or something like that. But it writes pretty decent. ConclusionI give it a 6 minus out of 10. And at least one point of that 6 minus is for the nice stainless steel cap. Can't see any faults in that.
UPDATEI now give it a fat 6 out of 10, for the fact that it is a working pen. But it still feels cheap and my friend had to try out a few pens at the store before she found one that was satisfactory. The first pen she tried was writing way too wet. That makes QC for this pen poor.(BTW, read the update post below if you want to know what happens when a person who knows nothing about FPs, except that she can use them right, tries to exchange a faulty pen in a store where the nice sales people know nothing about FPs.) Otherwise it's a rather cheap plastic, that's far too lighweight, pen with a nib that I wouldn't write home about. Maybe my impression of the pen will be more positive when I've used it some more. If that is the case I'll update this review.
see the updates aboveIf you're looking for a cheap everyday writer where looks don't matter, I suggest that you look in the direction of the ever so slightly but still very cheap Parker Frontier. Or Pelikan Pelikano or the Waterman Kultur (even though I normally wouldn't recomment the Kultur with a fine nib because it's rather scratchy, but at least it writes flawlessly! From what I've read, a Kultur M is smooth and that would make that pen a very, very nice cheapy!)
All the above mentioned pens feel much sturdier and are far more reliable, and hardly cost that much more.
I'd like to add that where the Jotter ballpoint excells the Jotter FP fails. The ballpoint is a cheap reliable sturdy pen that looks and feels like it will last you years and years even with regular mild abuse. I don't get that feeling with the FP version of the Jotter.
Note! The picture is made with a camaraphone that makes everything look greenish. So please don't think that Quink washable blue looks like that.
Note2! To the Dutch folk. I know there is a spelling error in my written text.

I've written it fast and forgot a letter.
UPDATE Note3! I've added a pic of the black one in the box it came in.
This pen is the Parker 15 fountian pen my dad got me around 15 years ago. My cousin still has one but since it ain't ming... I actually bought one a few months ago since I lost my first. I'd say this pen writes better than the Vector (plastic or Flighter). It has always been better than the Vector. The newer "Jotter" version feels somewhat "cheaper" compared to the original 15's. But still, the nib feels the same. "It has problems starting up and with downstrokes," you said. I agree with you. But for "The pen is very slim and sometimes uncomfortable to hold because of that, even with my small hands," well it is better than the Vector at the same price point. Better than the I.M. Or the newer Esprit. Basically because of its more slanted grip. I might say that the "6" rating doesn't give this pen justice given that it is at a budget/school pen. It does give the Vector a run for its money. Though I might say that QC with the newer ones isn't that good.
mr T.
Sep 6 2007, 07:52 PM
QUOTE
The newer "Jotter" version feels somewhat "cheaper" compared to the original 15's. But still, the nib feels the same. "It has problems starting up and with downstrokes," you said. I agree with you. But for "The pen is very slim and sometimes uncomfortable to hold because of that, even with my small hands," well it is better than the Vector at the same price point. Better than the I.M. Or the newer Esprit. Basically because of its more slanted grip
The 'original' 15 and the Jotter fp are the same. The Jotter, Vector and the I.M. have the same feeds and nibs fitted, so the differences may have only to do with grip. I noticed that recently produced pens (look at the cap for an indication when the pen was made) are not always made that well. I had lots of troubles with an I.M. that had problems with starting up and with downstrokes too (and other problems with ink flow). The solution for these problems was to take the nib and feed out and clean them with washing up liquid and water. Also noticed that there were some small irregulaties on the feed at places where the ink has to flow. Cleaned/repaired at with a small knife and don't have any problems anymore with the I.M. Maybe the recently produced Jotters and Vectors do have the same sort of quality problems. It seems as if quality control at Parker UK is not as good as it was.
diplomat
Sep 14 2007, 01:36 PM
Parker school nib are just so different in quality! I was in London recently and purchased two vectors, a jotter, a profile (i.m.) and a frontier.
Three of them share the same kind of nib, but one is completely unusable, the other makes some spot in writing and the third is just ok. It's a pity. School guys will turn to ballpoint if they have bad luck with nibs!
I agree with the review. Jotters are so thin and plastic you are frightening it will break by using it. I would advise to turn - in the same price category - towards a Parker Profile (or I.M.). A far much more reliable writer.
lisa
Oct 29 2007, 04:47 PM
I changed my opinion or at least want to add to my previous thoughts.
Having had and used this pen for a long period of time now I can say that I'm still not happy with the slim design BUT I think I was wrong about the sturdyness. Although it is simple and plastic and feels cheap it is sturdier than what I thought at first. The plastic seems to be thick where it needs to be.
Another plus point that you only notice with long term use is that it writes without trouble even when you haven't used it for quite a while. The cap seems to seal off the nib pretty good. And with the pen being small with small nib there is no noticible drying out over longer times. Although the ink does get darker, but you can't expect miracles.
I needed a small pen and decided to give the Jotter another shot. So this time I got the flighter version. Again from a local shop so if there is something the matter with it I can easily exchange. Got an F nib again that writes twice as broad and quite wet. I like the nib on the other one better but this one is OK too.
So I'm still not too happy about the QC though. This pen works straight out of the box but you could have fooled me that they were both supposed to have an F nib. Also because half of the plastic Jotters they had in the store didn't have a chrome ring in between the section and barrel. I got a ring from another pen on my stainless steel one even though I don't think it belongs there, but the guy in the store was happy to switch them with another pen. The ring fits pretty tight so I don't think it fell off half of the pens in the store.
Once at home I put the ring on my old plastic Jotter taht didn't have one before and it looks a lot better now.
But the upside is that I believe that once you've got a decent one you do get a pen that will last you just as long as any other budget pen. And writes even after you haven't used it for a week or two (I haven't counted, could even be longer)
So if it wasn't for QC I would give this little pen a 7 (maybe 7.5) out of 10 for the prize.
I'd still recommend a Pelikano over a Jotter any day. But if you need a small pen, the Jotter flighter isn't such a bad choice afterall.
lisa
Oct 29 2007, 11:18 PM
I TAKE IT BACK!!!Well not about the durability, but this one skips too and is just as bad as the first one I got. After half a page it's horrible to write with. It seems more like this is standars instead of a quality controll issue.

So if you happen to get a good one great but don't risk it unless you've got a good shop that lets you exchange it when you're not satified.
Dima
Jan 18 2008, 09:47 PM
Thank you for the review. I want to try this pen too. I liked its small size and small size, which make it the pen that can be taken everywhere without being afraid to break it or to lose. I have the Flighter version, but I don't like it, maybe because of metal it is made of. I want to get a black plastic one, but I didn't find any place which sells this pen. If I'll not find it in local stores, I'll order one on eBay.
I have Vector and Frontier. Frontier was the first pen non old Soviet pen I used. I didn't like fat writing of medium nib (when I bought it I didn't know anything about nib sizes), but I used it two years during the studies and almost two years during army service. It suffered much from my experiments on it, but is still in usable condition. Vector was bought only for collection. I don't like holding its metal nib section while writing.
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