david3000
Feb 17 2007, 04:27 PM
This clown on eBay thinks we're all stupid. Have a look at this "rare Pelikan 400" from his personal collection. He could have at least cleaned the thing up first!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...67854%26fvi%3D1ebay item # 280082567854
Johnson
Feb 17 2007, 04:36 PM
Holy crap. That is a Pelikan M200 Amber Demo, you can buy one from Richard for 55 bucks.
HyperCamper
Feb 17 2007, 05:24 PM
$ 1.100,00...
rbbrock
Feb 17 2007, 05:48 PM
Wow, I must have gotten an unbelieveable deal on the exact same pen from Richard B., and with a custom stub no less! Lucky me!
jd50ae
Feb 17 2007, 05:51 PM
| QUOTE (rbbrock @ Feb 17 2007, 11:48 AM) |
| Wow, I must have gotten an unbelieveable deal on the exact same pen from Richard B., and with a custom stub no less! Lucky me! |
anniemac
Feb 17 2007, 05:55 PM
The Benz Collection strikes again. . . .
addio6
Feb 17 2007, 07:40 PM
You should check out his taste in fancy artwork..
There's a stunning, mint condition, limited release, 3-D gem by some lady named 'Maxine.'..
$1,700 value apparently.. but through the kindness of his heart, the opening bid is a mere $150..
Dillo
Feb 17 2007, 07:58 PM
Hi,
That could have gone for $60 on average (With a steel nib) when new. In fact, we could still order those (with a gold nib) from Chartpak at my last check. I don't think that's made anymore, but $200 is too much.

Dillon
goodyear
Feb 17 2007, 08:13 PM
I'm new to the world of Pels, but that's an M200, isn't it?
Dillo
Feb 17 2007, 08:16 PM
Hi,
It IS an M200.

Dillon
goodyear
Feb 17 2007, 08:22 PM
Amazing. Wonder what it'll go for...
penna
Feb 17 2007, 08:29 PM
I am wondering (worring) how can he have such a feedback on ebay.
jonro
Feb 17 2007, 08:35 PM
But it's in "supreme mint condition" and it's 5.055 inches long. Surely extra special super duper supreme mint (isn't that a Ben & Jerry's flavor) and such precise measurements must be worth something.
Srehman
Feb 17 2007, 09:10 PM
"RARE AND COLLECTIBLE"
jd50ae
Feb 17 2007, 09:19 PM
| QUOTE (penna @ Feb 17 2007, 02:29 PM) |
I am wondering (worring) how can he have such a feedback on ebay.
|
Because, if it is sold, it will be sold to one of two people.
One: a real fool who was mesmerized by the shtick
Or
Two: a plant, this is so he can resell it at a still absurd price
jd50ae
Feb 17 2007, 11:45 PM
I sent this remark via eBay.
"I am looking at an exact copy of this pen, one of two that I own. It is an M200 and still sells for around $60."
addio6
Feb 18 2007, 12:12 AM
| QUOTE (jd50ae @ Feb 17 2007, 05:45 PM) |
I sent this remark via eBay.
"I am looking at an exact copy of this pen, one of two that I own. It is an M200 and still sells for around $60." |
Yes, but was it exposed to the element?
That darn element is what kills it 90% of the time.
Its the difference between a $60 pen and a $65,000,000 pen (apparently..

)
addio6
Feb 18 2007, 12:17 AM
THIS PELIKAN IS NOT FOR COLLECTORS LOOKING TO ADD A PEN TO THE TRAY. THIS PELIKAN IS NOT TO BE USED ON DAILY BASIS, THIS PELIKAN IS STRICTLY FOR COLLECTING BY COLLECTORS.....THERE ARE SIMILAR PELIKAN SELLING FOR $10.00 $20.00, $40,00, $80.00 ...THE STARTING BID FOR THIS PEN IS $200.00 ...THIS IS NOT A TRAY COLLECTIBLE ITEM. THANK YOUIs that new?!
lmederos
Feb 18 2007, 12:18 AM
interesting that many of the "positive feedback" from "satisfied buyers" is provided by a lot of "return customers"...
contravox
Feb 18 2007, 01:48 AM
oh God, please don't let a soul bid on this.
This guy is the worst of the worst. I would applaud his capitalisitic prowess if it were not so blatently insulting.
Srehman
Feb 18 2007, 02:34 AM
| QUOTE (addio6 @ Feb 18 2007, 12:17 AM) |
THIS PELIKAN IS NOT FOR COLLECTORS LOOKING TO ADD A PEN TO THE TRAY. THIS PELIKAN IS NOT TO BE USED ON DAILY BASIS, THIS PELIKAN IS STRICTLY FOR COLLECTING BY COLLECTORS.....THERE ARE SIMILAR PELIKAN SELLING FOR $10.00 $20.00, $40,00, $80.00 ...THE STARTING BID FOR THIS PEN IS $200.00 ...THIS IS NOT A TRAY COLLECTIBLE ITEM. THANK YOU
Is that new?! |
Yes, it is, likely in response to the questions many (including myself) sent him re: whether this is an M200.
Srehman
Feb 18 2007, 02:34 AM
| QUOTE (lmederos @ Feb 18 2007, 12:18 AM) |
| interesting that many of the "positive feedback" from "satisfied buyers" is provided by a lot of "return customers"... |
"Steveart49" has bought an surprisingly large number of his listings.
cctraderx
Feb 18 2007, 03:18 AM
We should all put our pens out with such a description. There's more than a couple of typos in his and the biggest one has to be the price. Well he's got a bidder, hopefully he/she's a plant so that others aren't taken.
Update:
Current bidder looks like a plant - bid on this person's bid 51% of time.
addio6
Feb 18 2007, 03:28 AM
| QUOTE (Srehman @ Feb 17 2007, 08:34 PM) |
| Yes, it is, likely in response to the questions many (including myself) sent him re: whether this is an M200. |
Hahaha.. It responds to external stimuli and adapts to the changing environment.
Nice.
jd50ae
Feb 18 2007, 03:45 AM
| QUOTE (jd50ae @ Feb 17 2007, 05:45 PM) |
I sent this remark via eBay.
"I am looking at an exact copy of this pen, one of two that I own. It is an M200 and still sells for around $60." |
No answer to my e-mail but he has removed any reference to M400, and he has one bid. Probably his shill bidder.
bobioden
Feb 18 2007, 04:08 AM
| QUOTE (addio6 @ Feb 17 2007, 06:17 PM) |
THIS PELIKAN IS NOT FOR COLLECTORS LOOKING TO ADD A PEN TO THE TRAY. THIS PELIKAN IS NOT TO BE USED ON DAILY BASIS, THIS PELIKAN IS STRICTLY FOR COLLECTING BY COLLECTORS.....THERE ARE SIMILAR PELIKAN SELLING FOR $10.00 $20.00, $40,00, $80.00 ...THE STARTING BID FOR THIS PEN IS $200.00 ...THIS IS NOT A TRAY COLLECTIBLE ITEM. THANK YOU
Is that new?! |
yes, it is new. He did have it listed as a Pelikan 400. I also questioned him on whether it was a 400. Seems he has changed his description.
helius
Feb 18 2007, 04:09 AM
I've always thought that you can't change the description after someone's put in a bid... Anyone have any thoughts/ideas on that?
david3000
Feb 18 2007, 04:11 AM
| QUOTE (helius @ Feb 18 2007, 04:09 AM) |
| I've always thought that you can't change the description after someone's put in a bid... Anyone have any thoughts/ideas on that? |
That's true. Maybe he's got some experience from his previous scams.
rattybad1
Feb 18 2007, 05:32 AM
Interesting that the high bidder is the generically-named "Bidder1". Bets on who that is?
mmoncur
Feb 18 2007, 05:43 AM
Actually "Bidder1" is eBay's doing, they withhold bidder IDs for high-value items (which I find bloody annoying).
Look at his other items, there's another "Rare Pelikan 400". I'm not a Pelikan expert - is that one real, or is it a green M200?
I like how he says it was "NEVER TAKEN OUT OF THE BOX" and then includes a picture of it <i>sitting outside the box</i>...
addio6
Feb 18 2007, 08:15 AM
| QUOTE (mmoncur @ Feb 17 2007, 11:43 PM) |
| I like how he says it was "NEVER TAKEN OUT OF THE BOX" and then includes a picture of it <i>sitting outside the box</i>... |
^^ I'm still laughing at that..
I love the way 'high-value' item lost every ounce of its meaning in that context.
I'm starting to think this guy wouldn't surprise me one bit if he started yanking pens off bank teller counters and listing them on eBay as being 'Mint in the Box Never Touched by Human Hands'..
Srehman
Feb 18 2007, 11:22 AM
Interesting that you can increase the price of an item 5x if you label it "COLLECTORS SERIE FOR COLLECTORS ONLY"
^^Agree with the "NEVER TAKEN OUT OF THE BOX"; I had a good laugh at that- I hadn't thought of it that way.
lisa
Feb 18 2007, 11:58 AM
| QUOTE (addio6 @ Feb 18 2007, 01:17 AM) |
THIS PELIKAN IS NOT FOR COLLECTORS LOOKING TO ADD A PEN TO THE TRAY. THIS PELIKAN IS NOT TO BE USED ON DAILY BASIS, THIS PELIKAN IS STRICTLY FOR COLLECTING BY COLLECTORS.....THERE ARE SIMILAR PELIKAN SELLING FOR $10.00 $20.00, $40,00, $80.00 ...THE STARTING BID FOR THIS PEN IS $200.00 ...THIS IS NOT A TRAY COLLECTIBLE ITEM. THANK YOU
Is that new?!  |
Why can't we use it, doesn't it work properly?
Isn't there a way to ask questions openly at ebay under the auction?
auscan
Feb 18 2007, 11:59 AM
Cant we report the listing as a con? Ther is a report button there, somewhere.
I, like many others, are amazed at his feedback rating. I would love to know how many people have lodged complaints with Paypal, after finding out that they have been jibed.
mgshn
Feb 18 2007, 02:06 PM
FWIW, I sent a note to eBay customer service with questions about shill bidding and the use of multiple accounts to build feedback. Let's see what happens.
In the mean time, it is a very nice looking pen...
jd50ae
Feb 18 2007, 02:30 PM
| QUOTE (mgshn @ Feb 18 2007, 08:06 AM) |
FWIW, I sent a note to eBay customer service with questions about shill bidding and the use of multiple accounts to build feedback. Let's see what happens.
In the mean time, it is a very nice looking pen... |
Good for you. I have done that in the past and never got a reply back.
jd50ae
Feb 18 2007, 05:03 PM
Nevermind.
superfly
Feb 18 2007, 10:25 PM
uh, but since it is in AAAAAAAA+1 condition, must be best buy??
andyk
Feb 21 2007, 10:27 PM
Must admit I often look at this guy's auctions and wonder if I am sitting on a fortune. OK some might be prototype/rare which may be worth that little bit more but mostly I think ??????
But I'm very tempted to sell him some of my pens and retire on the proceeds. I just feel sorry for buyers that think they have got a bargain based on his inflated values, when in fact they have paid well over the odds for something fairly ordinary.
One of my favourites is the Special Parker Adapter that he sold for $36.25, looks remarkably like one I saw in WH Smith today for £2.99, but hey it may be a rare prototype.
Still 'buyer beware' is the best way to deal with Ebay.
mgshn
Feb 22 2007, 12:02 AM
Renzhe
Feb 22 2007, 02:57 AM
Nevermind.
MYU
Mar 15 2007, 11:16 PM
I can't believe someone fell for that. $200 for a $55 pen? Sheesh. I know, "buyer beware", but I just get a sick feeling seeing that guy take people like that.
Dillo
Mar 16 2007, 02:22 AM
Hi,
But it was one of his shill bidders, not a real bidder.
Dillon
jd50ae
Mar 16 2007, 10:40 AM
| QUOTE (Dillo @ Mar 15 2007, 08:22 PM) |
Hi,
But it was one of his shill bidders, not a real bidder.
Dillon |
Yep, steveart49 is one of his finest customers.
playpen
Mar 16 2007, 11:07 AM
Pardon the question but I have limited experience with Ebay for obvious reasons. Why can't they have a bulletin board for the purpose of allowing people to check and see if anyone has left feedback on a particular item/seller/etc?
For example, if I am interested in bidding on an item, I should have access to a bulletin board where I can enter an item's number, do a search and find peoples' comments on said item. That would avoid lots of problems and be a good thing (sorry Martha)no?
contravox
Mar 16 2007, 11:11 AM
because it would make too much sense
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