Greg
Feb 16 2007, 02:07 PM
This one isn't doing so well. Does this mean those who want one now have one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VERY-RARE-Floral-CON...1QQcmdZViewItem Greg
andyr7
Feb 16 2007, 05:39 PM
Maybe it just means that those who still want one are prepared to wait (and pay a bit more) for one in reasonable condition!
Andy
david i
Feb 16 2007, 07:39 PM
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| This one isn't doing so well. Does this mean those who want one now have one? |
No.
First, hot pens tend to see more of a jump during last 10 seconds on ebay, than they do during firt 6 days. Serious bidders tend not bid in amateurish early fashion, though the rule hardly is met 100% of time. If this were an intact clean pen (which it is not) and if it closed at $150, then we could at least discuss a single datum in the market that seems to have not met typical expectations.
Second, pen has a flaw that might well be more serious than seller presents. I am not a CS collector, though i have had some great ones in hand. I am not certain how trivial it is to replace clip.
Third, the ad is laden with usual ebay hyperbolic BS. Those who never heard of the floral won't be swayed by the.. i can't tell you what an amzingly rare super obscure best of the best for those who want only the keystone rarities crap. They don't know the retail range on these. Those who do know about the... cachet... of the floral, won't be swayed by all the BS either.
Fourth, ebay markets are hardly consistent. What sells $700 the next day sells $100 and the day after maybe again $700.
regards
david
andyr7
Feb 19 2007, 09:01 AM
In answer to your original question Greg - maybe!
From the prices I've been logging over the last 9 months or so (15 pens in all), the closing price was on the low side for a fairly poor example. Others in similar condition seem to have fetched about £200, amazingly! So this may be the start of the tail-off, or just an example of the usual wide spread of prices seen on ebay.
Andy
jimg
Feb 20 2007, 01:10 AM
Boy , I really hope the successful bidder asked some pointed questions about that pen. Even from the relatively poor photos you can see some fairly serious yellowing and what appears to be advanced "crystallization" at the end of the barrel and possibly the cap. The lever seems a little bent up as well.
The comment about the replacement of the "standard clip" is in my opinion well beyond reasonable puffery.
I bought a CS22 a few months back to put away as my daughter's 21st birthday present. It did cost more than $US260 from a very well known collector but it is a very good colour, intact and otherwise in good condition. Needless to say any minor defects were fully disclosed and factored into the price.
Although I note that the suggestion of a forum to "out" poor traders is periodically mooted and , correctly, declined, is there nothing that can be done to stop the type of sale displayed at the above link??
Jim
andyr7
Feb 20 2007, 09:41 AM
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is there nothing that can be done to stop the type of sale displayed at the above link??
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In comparison with many sales, I didn't actually find that auction description too bad. The pen was obviously in poor condition from the picture which should have been ample warning to any purchaser.
Now if you were talking about vendors who describe all sorts of Conway Stewart materials as 'cracked ice' to puff up the price.......
Andy
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