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Capt. Pat
I'm considering purchasing a CS Churchill Ebonite in Lever Fill and am interested in any comments from current owners.

Thanks
Jopen
Must be very similar to the WES Churchill with which I have quite a pleasure when writing with it, fitted with an F nib. Light, well balanced and good for BIG hands. Thanks Andy!!
andyr7
I'm pleased you're still enjoying the pen!!

I must admit that ebonite is the only material that I like in the modern CS range and I think it does especially suit the Churchill!

Andy
Andy's Pens
According to the circular that came round a couple of weeks ago, the Churchill in black ebonite is nearing its quota. I guess when it actually reaches it, the model will be withdrawn?

If you want one of these, it would probably be best to get in there quick!

Best Regards

Andy.
contravox
I have a Steinway Edition Churchill and it is a beautiful pen! The only issue I have with it is the sheer size of the pen. It is a very thick pen and might be a little tricky to write with. The lever filling mechanism works great though and the fit and finish is exquisite!
auscan
QUOTE(Andy's Pens @ Feb 13 2007, 04:23 AM)
According to the circular that came round a couple of weeks ago, the Churchill in black ebonite is nearing its quota. I guess when it actually reaches it, the model will be withdrawn?

If you want one of these, it would probably be best to get in there quick!

Not the words I wanted to hear.
This is my dream pen (well over $1200 AUD if bought in Australia), Hope I can get one before they are discontinued.

On the conway Stewarts American website, it has the ebonite as one of their regular series, and not a special or limited edition.
andyr7
The term 'Quota', as used by Conway Stewart, seems to have a variable meaning - just ask those of us who bought so called 'limited edition' pens in the early days of the modern company that were just simply reissued in identical form as part of the standard range after the 'limited' run was completed.

Andy
Blorgy
QUOTE(auscan @ Feb 13 2007, 08:27 AM)
On the conway Stewarts American website, it has the ebonite as one of their regular series, and not a special or limited edition.

My Churchill is not black, but it is individually numbered, suggesting that only 500 will be made of that colour. I thought that a finite number of each colour was to be made, for example 1,000 black ebonite Churchills.
auscan
I thought there was something strange about the availability of some conway Stewart pens/colours.
andyr7
QUOTE
My Churchill is not black, but it is individually numbered, suggesting that only 500 will be made of that colour. I thought that a finite number of each colour was to be made, for example 1,000 black ebonite Churchills.


That is the point I was making - my azure Dandy with gold trim (now sold) was bought in December 2001 and was numbered 014/500. However, you could still buy the identical pen as a standard Dandy until they were discontinued with the rest of the Dandy range last year - and you can still buy one today as a bespoke pen. I think that the only thing that really limits the edition of these pens is when they are unable to get new supplies of the same rod stock.

Andy
Jopen
QUOTE (andyr7 @ Feb 12 2007, 09:37 AM)
I'm pleased you're still enjoying the pen!!


Yes, Andy you can be pretty sure, despite its size, this pen is a pleasure to use... and I agree, this must be the nicest material on their modern pens (also on Doctor's Pen)

Jose
kenneth cooke
Someone bought me a Churchill Ebonite lever fill. It seemed fine but as I did not respect Winston Churchill and all he stood for I felt I did not want to have a pen assosiated with his memory. CS kindly exchanged it for a Silver Duro in honey/noire, the design of which harks back to the Art Deco period, of which I am very fond. CS pens are great and the service is like customer service used to be. I should get one if I were you
auscan
QUOTE (kenneth cooke @ Feb 18 2007, 11:44 AM)
Someone bought me a Churchill Ebonite lever fill. It seemed fine but as I did not respect Winston Churchill and all he stood for I felt I did not want to have a pen assosiated with his memory. CS kindly exchanged it for a Silver Duro in honey/noire, the design of which harks back to the Art Deco period, of which I am very fond. CS pens are great and the service is like customer service used to be. I should get one if I were you

Im the oposite to you, I was drawn to the Churchill name.

I also like the CS 100 pens. With so many choices, colour, trim filling system ect, its not a easy choice. I like the ebonites but also like the Red Whirl and Brown whirl. Too many choices.
Capt. Pat
I've got two a CS 100 and a CS 58, both of these are among my favorites. It looks like I will soon have a third biggrin.gif
Carrie
I've got the red ripple ebonite Duro and after a few problems with ink flow which were solved with a nib replacement, I really do think that is a lovely pen. The only criticism of the pen itself is that the imprint on the part that reads "Duro" is not very clear, if you didn't know it was a "u" you'd struggle to guess. The Duro is as large a pen as I could cope with using, but as it's a relatively lightweight pen it means that the size isn't a problem for me. The fine nib is wonderfully smooth and the pen is just a pleasure to write with.

I also have a new acquisition which I just collected from the Post Office this morning - an Ebonite Dandy. Not inked yet, but looks absolutely beautiful. Both striking and simple. One small surprise, it's a bit longer than my azure Dandy.

Like Andy, I'm rather cynical about the limited edition numbers on Conway Stewart pens. All three of my modern Conway Stewarts are numbered as limited editions, but are they really the only ones produced in that colour / material.
Blorgy
QUOTE (Carrie @ Feb 22 2007, 08:06 AM)
Like Andy, I'm rather cynical about the limited edition numbers on Conway Stewart pens. All three of my modern Conway Stewarts are numbered as limited editions, but are they really the only ones produced in that colour / material.

My guess is that they are the only ones produced in that colour/material, for example 500 of one particular colour/material.
If there were more than 500, there would be three possiblities:
Some pens would have numbers greater than 500.
Some pens would have duplicate numbers, e.g. 5 pens with the number 327.
Some pens would have no numbers.

Sometimes, the pens made in small numbers, in one colour/ material, get called special editions, rather than limited editions.
andyr7
QUOTE
My guess is that they are the only ones produced in that colour/material, for example 500 of one particular colour/material.


That is what I thought and 6 or 7 years ago when I assumed I was buying an edition limited in this way. It was probably the original intention but it appears not to be true any longer. There may be only 500 pens numbered in that particular way but the identical pen continued to be produced as long as the rod stock was available, either as a standard item or a bespoke pen, just with a different numbering.

Andy
Carrie
I was under the impression that the ebonite Dandy was part of their standard range until the Dandy as an entire range was discontinued last year. As such I didn't expect it to have a limited edition number. However, it does. It's engraved as number 47 of 300 from The Ebonite Collection rather than being engraved with Dandy. I saw on the last CS newsletter that The Ebonite Collection for all models is now sold out. Does The Ebonite Collection refer to all ebonite Churchills and Dandys that have been produced? Or is it being marketed as a separate limited edition?
The Noble Savage
I have a black Chased Ebonite Churchill. It is a limited edition out of 300 pens, mine is 115. This is the silver/rhodium trim and rhodium plated 18kt gold nib. The pen is a lever filler and I have had Zero problems at all with it.

They are becoming harder and harder to come by, thats for sure. I had my sights set on the red ripple ebonite GT Churchill lever filler but they were all gone, so the Black chased ebonite that I have was my 2nd choice. The pen holds a good amount of ink, much more than a converter does. The ink flow is quite generous and is a really solid writer.

My wife bought it for me for my Christmas present 2006 from Kevin Cheng, Winedoc. His prices on CS pens are really good and what he doesnt have on hand, he can do his best in ordering it or at least trying to locate you one.

TNS
Mary Burke
Hi Carrie,

The serial number on the 'regular' edition pens translates to color number and unit number. Not limited edition number.

Kind regards,

Mary Burke

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