klemenv
Oct 16 2006, 08:13 PM
I am joining an insurance tommorow.
While I am having an internal struggle to buy a new pen that would fit to an insurance,
(trying to decide between Parker 51 and Visconti Wall Street :doh: )
which ink should I use to sign the contract tommorow?
guy
Oct 16 2006, 08:27 PM
Noodlers Black (sorry not on your list)
corniche
Oct 16 2006, 08:30 PM
Hello klemenv,
If you have any doubts about this company you're joining- use Noodlers Ghost.
If you are satisfied with the terms, I would use Waterman Blue-Black, (sorry, not on the list), or Diamine Prussian Blue.
Best of luck in your new position,
Sean
HyperCamper
Oct 16 2006, 08:55 PM
What other color than Noodler's Legal Lapis!?
Video11
Oct 16 2006, 08:58 PM
Well, since Noodler's (Pendemonium) Legal Lapis isn't on the list I voted for Noodler's Blue.
pd999
Oct 16 2006, 10:05 PM
Noodlers Black or Noodlers Polar Black.
Voted for Noodlers Blue as nearest equ.
BillTheEditor
Oct 16 2006, 10:45 PM
I voted for Noodler's Ottoman Azure. Of the blue inks you list, I believe it is the most water-resistant.
Vintage Pens Fan
Oct 16 2006, 10:48 PM
I'd use Noodler's black or Legal lapis for water/fraud proof quality. But if this is not a concern I'd use Waterman Florida Blue. (My favorite ink).
David
FLZapped
Oct 16 2006, 10:56 PM
QUOTE(HyperCamper @ Oct 16 2006, 03:55 PM)
What other color than Noodler's Legal Lapis!?

YES!
georgem
Oct 17 2006, 02:10 AM
Any black ink (Aurora is my favorite!!!).
Tienlong
Oct 17 2006, 12:35 PM
Waterman Blueblack is a good color for signing, and please go for the Wallstreet trust me it's a better pen.
But if you are refering to a vintage Parker 51 then GO FOR IT! but the new 51 might disapoint you when it comes to the quality even if it's a lifetime warranty pen. Or you can be very ginger with the pen, just make sure you don't screw the barrow in too tightly or it'll crack(keep in mind it takes 5-6 weeks for repair)
Cheers
*david*
Oct 17 2006, 05:09 PM
Keep your inks conservative until they know you. Blue or black, nothing flashy.
James P
Oct 17 2006, 05:25 PM
For a contract, I always choose a blue ink over a black. I want to be sure I can tell the original from the copy.
My new favorite ink is Diamine Sapphire, so that's what I chose from your list. It's a bright and vibrant blue but is not garish and still quite conservative. You'll look professional and practical but still retain an element of individuality. The perfect ink, really.
If water-fastness and anti-fraud were your primary criteria, you may want to use Noodler's Luxury Blue. It's also a very nice blue color, and has the added benefit of being one of Noodler's "Eternal" inks.
James P.
BobR
Oct 17 2006, 05:30 PM
I voted for Diamine Prussian Blue because it's a nice conservative, vintage-looking color, which I'm about to order from James P. But you're in Slovenia, no locally brewed Sheaffer's?
Best of luck in you new position.
Ogrebait
Oct 26 2006, 12:15 PM
I am not sure about signing contracts with Waterman Blue/Black. It washes off pretty easy.
Rick
girlieg33k
Nov 25 2006, 04:03 AM
I use Diamine Registrar's Ink to sign all contracts. It's permanent, waterproof, and a conservative deep blue-black.
bernardo
Dec 2 2006, 07:14 PM
I'd use the deepest black I could find and at least a gold-filled Sheaffer Imperial (a PFM V would look even nicer).
johnr55
Dec 2 2006, 10:38 PM
I echo Legal Lapis, or the Diamine Registrar's ink-if you have the pen for it.
Viseguy
Dec 3 2006, 02:36 AM
QUOTE(klemenv @ Oct 16 2006, 04:13 PM)
...which ink should I use to sign the contract tommorow?
According to the date stamp, "tomorrow" was quite a few weeks ago (Oct. 17). So which ink did you use, klemenv, to sign the contract? Hmmm?
klemenv
Dec 3 2006, 08:31 PM
Viseguy,
I don't have any waterproof inks. So I was deciding between Diamine Prussian Blue and PR American Blue.
At the end I have signed the contract with American Blue filled in Duofold with fine italic nib that I just adore.
I bough this pen a year ago because I was thinking joining a bank a year ago. I guess insurance counts too.
Viseguy
Dec 3 2006, 10:49 PM
QUOTE(klemenv @ Dec 3 2006, 04:31 PM)
Viseguy,
I don't have any waterproof inks. So I was deciding between Diamine Prussian Blue and PR American Blue.
At the end I have signed the contract with American Blue filled in Duofold with fine italic nib that I just adore.
I bough this pen a year ago because I was thinking joining a bank a year ago. I guess insurance counts too.
Congratulations!
CharlieB
Dec 6 2006, 12:10 AM
Hi Liezl,
Would you consider posting a scan of your Diamine Register's ink?
girlieg33k
Dec 6 2006, 01:17 AM
Here's a quick scan of the Diamine Registrar's Ink. For comparison, I added the Noodler's Iraqi Indigo (I incorrectly wrote "Iraq" in the scan).
I've started using Noodler's Iraqi Indigo for signatures as well, but I still prefer the Diamine Registrar's Ink for contracts. I sign contracts all day, so I keep the Sailor filled with Diamine Registrar's Ink, but I rinse it once a week as suggested by others on the board. Hope that helps.
CharlieB
Dec 6 2006, 01:40 AM
Liezl,
Thanks for the scan of the Diamine Registrar and the Noodler's Iraqi Indigo. The Registrar seems to be the more conservative of the two... and, hence, more appealing to me. The only thing that worries me is the iron gall content of the ink. I've never tried an iron gall ink, but I suppose I should break down and take the plunge one day soon.
Like you, I sign lots of documents. In my case, the documents are not contracts but the vast range of memoranda, letters, certifications, requisitions, performance appraisals, etc. that occupy a Federal Government bureaucracy. I've been using Waterman Florida Blue, Sheaffer Slovenian Blue, Montblanc Blue, Visconti Blue, and PR Black Magic Blue for most of my signatures. I try to use a medium nib pen, so the blue will really stand out from the black and white background.
Do you negotiate contracts?
Charlie
girlieg33k
Dec 6 2006, 02:08 AM
Oops - I just realized as I'm sitting here signing checks that the pen I used for the Noodler's Iraqi Indigo exemplar is the
Pilot Custom 74, not the Platinum. There is no such thing as a Platinum Custom 74!

I confuse the Platinum 3776 and Pilot Custom 74 often, even though the Platinum is burgundy and the Pilot is black. Old age is rough...
girlieg33k
Dec 6 2006, 02:18 AM
QUOTE(CharlieB @ Dec 5 2006, 08:40 PM)
Thanks for the scan of the Diamine Registrar and the Noodler's Iraqi Indigo. The Registrar seems to be the more conservative of the two... and, hence, more appealing to me. The only thing that worries me is the iron gall content of the ink. I've never tried an iron gall ink, but I suppose I should break down and take the plunge one day soon.
Like you, I sign lots of documents. In my case, the documents are not contracts but the vast range of memoranda, letters, certifications, requisitions, performance appraisals, etc. that occupy a Federal Government bureaucracy. I've been using Waterman Florida Blue, Sheaffer Slovenian Blue, Montblanc Blue, Visconti Blue, and PR Black Magic Blue for most of my signatures. I try to use a medium nib pen, so the blue will really stand out from the black and white background.
Do you negotiate contracts?
Charlie
The Diamine Registrar's Ink is more conservative to me, and I really like it. I just started using the Iraqi Indigo for variety.
As far as concerns regarding iron-gall inks, in addition to Diamine Registrar's Ink, I've also used the Lamy blue/black (which is also an iron-gall ink) in my Montblanc 146 without problems in the past. I do take care to rinse out the pens regularly (once or twice a week) and rotate them often.
Yes, I do negotiate contracts and as I said, I sign them all day. For memos, handwritten draft letters, and so forth I use Waterman blue/black or Sailor blue/black. I reserve the more colorful inks that I have for snail mailing and for journaling.
CharlieB
Dec 6 2006, 02:24 AM
You have Sailor Blue Black??? I've been looking for a good scan of that ink for a long time. Any chance you could post one, perhaps side by side with Sailor Blue? I have a bottle of Sailor Blue, and I consider it to be one of my favorite inks. To me, it appears almost blue black (certainly more blue black than Waterman Blue Black!). I'm thinking that the real Sailor Blue Black must be quite dark.....
girlieg33k
Dec 6 2006, 02:52 AM
Unfortunately my bottle of Sailor blue/black along with the pen inked with it (my new Tryphon Clef from Richard Binder) is at the office. I don't have Sailor blue, but I have the Sailor red brown which I really like as well.
The Sailor inks are among my favorites -- they flow well and seem to make my toothier italic pens smoother. I ordered another bottle of the Sailor blue/black from Swisher Pens a few weeks ago, and they are still on backorder. So I keep the 1-bottle of Sailor blue/black that I have at work because that's where I use it mostly.
I'll do a scan tomorrow at some point and will post it when I get home.
Viseguy
Dec 6 2006, 05:11 AM
QUOTE(girlieg33k @ Dec 5 2006, 09:17 PM)
Here's a quick scan of the Diamine Registrar's Ink. For comparison, I added the Noodler's Iraqi Indigo...
Leizl,
Is the Iraqi Indigo in your scan mixed with anything? It looks very blue here, much more purple in person. Just wondering.
HesNot
Dec 6 2006, 04:23 PM
Viseguy - I'm glad you asked that question as it looks quite blue to me as well and I had not bought it based upon the very purpleish reports ... I really like the color as it appears on my screen, however
girlieg33k
Dec 7 2006, 03:33 AM
QUOTE(Viseguy @ Dec 6 2006, 12:11 AM)
QUOTE(girlieg33k @ Dec 5 2006, 09:17 PM)
Here's a quick scan of the Diamine Registrar's Ink. For comparison, I added the Noodler's Iraqi Indigo...
Is the Iraqi Indigo in your scan mixed with anything? It looks very blue here, much more purple in person. Just wondering.

The Iraqi Indigo wasn't mixed with anyting -- it's the way the light from the scanner hits the image I think.
I hadn't realized just how blue it looked until I took a second look. The Diamine Registrar's Ink oddly looks about right on screen, but you're right that the Iraqi Indigo is very blue in my previous post. It is more purple. I took a photo of the same writing sample without the flash, relying on the the desk lamp as the only light source. It's tricky to get the color on the screen to match what's on the paper, but this one is pretty close.

I'm working on trying to get an accurate sample of the Sailor blue/black, but that's easier said than done at this hour...
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