... Ah well, it was nice while it lasted. My highly prized and well used Churchill has disappeared. Straining for details in my memory I think I rode my push-bike with it in my shirt pocket and it must have dropped out. I reached the destination and assumed I had forgotten it, it's but nowhere to be seen back at my office. Retraced my steps but to no avail.

Been two days now. Haven't eaten - inconsolable. Anybody have a use for half a bottle of mixed green/black ink?


Greg

Ouch, Greg, that hurts!

Until I read every word to the end, I thought it was heading toward, "Anybody have a use for half a bottle of Jim Beam?

Now there's a thought!

Greg

That is terrible

Just try relating your story to those nice people like Glenn at CS. You never know your luck, they might help you out with a reduced price Churchill replacement. If they do, you can tell all your friends at FPN what a great company they are to deal with and how they should all go and buy Churchills or whatever (my favourite motto, if you don't ask, you don't get!). If not, you are no worse off and FPN members can make their own judgements (and presumably buy Duofolds instead)!

If all else fails, I still have a great limited edition ivory casein Churchill for sale...!

Seriously though, I hope you get a result on this.

Good luck,

Andy

I think if I loose a Churchill I would drink all that ink. With ice and soda.

Oh Greg, that's terrible! I hope there's still a chance it might turn up somewhere unexpected. What a loss.

: I wasn't going to answer this but I decided I had to. In other posts I have said that I don't lose pens but that is only partially true... I thought that I had lost my beloved Parker 75 that was a Christmas gift from my mother in about 1965 that I carried every day all through school and college and even took to Europe with me. After about three or four years it turned up!!! That is the real reason that the Parker never ever leaves the house now. I enjoy my CS 58 and Dandy so much that I would really be upset if one of them got lost. Still though, I want to use them, so they go with me.. I can really appreciate your loss.

*sob*

Well, on the bright side it means I can look for a replacement.

What's that I see? A button fill Burnham, looking just like a CS (with that diamond shape on the clip of pens made by CS for other firms)? A large size, just like the old Duros? In very good (looking) condition? And its appeared for a derisory bid in my 'Items Won' column on the dreaded eb*y? Well, I'll go the foot of my stairs!

What do you think guys? Only the eb*y pic at the moment, its yet to arrive, but do you any of you CS experts know about CS making pens for Burnham? I'm sure it wont be a CS nib, and the BHR cap holding the clip looks a little too tall for a CS but its certainly has a CS feel about it.

Any ideas anyone?


Greg

Hi Greg,

I've talked to Steve Hull about this in the past because there are definitely Dinkies made by CS for Burnham (almost the same as standard CS Dinkies and Nippy pencils with small but obvious variations, including BP on the lever paddle). As far as I can remember, he says there is no known official record of this and I'm not aware of any other models where the evidence is so strong. The materials that Burnham used were often the same as for some CS models so there may frequently be a superficial resemblance.

As they were manufacturing at the same time for the same markets, with the same styles and taste, it's not surprising that their pens often looked similar to CS.

Andy

Good point, Andy, but looking at that clip, its SO CS, apart from the tear drop ball on the end.

With regards to contacting the new CS company about my pen, my wife made the same suggestion. I could give it a try, but, to be honest, they would have to offer the replacement pen at a ridiculously low price for me to spend anything like that sort of money on a pen again (still feeling very sore!). Do you have a contace address for Glenn?

I'll pluck up the courage and the words later today.

Thanks for all your understanding sympathy (glad there wasn't too much empathy) everyone, that's exactly what I was after as most other people I know would feel sad for me in a rather different way!

I'm still looking around, like a vixen looking for its lost young.


Greg

I know what you mean about the clip, it is one of several different styles Burnham used, but the shoulder of the clip certainly does look like a CS or Relief clip. Of course, it is quite possible that they only made the clips for Burnham! The other thing that looks slightly CS-like is the configuration of the three band caps, all the three band Burnham caps I can remember seeing (admittedly not many) have three equal narrow bands.

You'll know better when you handle the pen and compare shapes and style of similar CS. I doubt they would have made anything for Burnham that didn't fit in closely with the size and shapes of pens that CS were already producing. You also need to contact a Burnham collector to see if they have any more information.

The only published information I have seen on Burnham is Steve's article in WES Journal no. 74, and in the Lambrou pen books, none of these seem to link CS with Burnham in any way.

Regarding the Churchill, you'll have to try contacting Glenn via the CS website - or, maybe better, by a nicely handwritten letter to him at the factory? No courage needed, they can only say 'no', in which case you're no worse off, except maybe the cost of a stamp!

Are you sure the loss isn't covered by your household insurance policy at all? I think my policy would probably have covered such an event.

Good luck anyway!
Andy