Ok, so I may have just found the pen I want.

Winedoc has it and it's a Danitrio that is just gorgeous!

I have never owned a fountain pen before.. ever..

So Im really nervous.

He lists the pen as being able to come with a slew of nibs and I have no idea what or how to select.

Flexy EF? F or M or B?
And regular F, m b bb or stub.... IM totally lost!

Ok so I plan to use this pen daily for a little this and a little that.

Also, Im not exactly sure what is meant by "eye dropper" fountain pen.

I know i must sound :doh: , but this is a hobby i have wanted to get into for some time and just never plunged. But i tell you what, everyone here has been more helpful than the jerk at paradise pens in the mall. sheeesh

Which Danitrio is it? You're starting out with a bang for your first pen! I'd maybe go for the c/c filler (cartidge converter) for the first pen but I'm sure there are others that would say the eyedropper would be fine. I haven't had the courage yet

I would first try to examine you handwriting to decide if you need a, extra-fine, fine, medium, broad, extra-broad nib. I probably would steer away from the flexi at first but definitely something you could graduate, too.


A great resource, too, is Richard Binder's site under 'referrences' - www.richardspens.com There you can fine out about nibs and filling styles in great detail. I used this (and still do ) when I bought my very first pen.

Best of luck - and Winedoc is a top-notch guy

I can't help you on the Danitrio pen due to lack of experience with that brand. But I've had mixed experiences with Paradise Pens as well. The fact that they're 45 minutes away from me does not help [rant over now]

Welcome to FPN and good luck with your new pen [whatever you decide to get!]

:bunny1:

Hi Plasma (or should I call you Mr. (or Mrs ?) 800 ? ),

an eyedropper is a pen in which you that you drop the ink straight into the pen barrel (body). It contains a lot of ink. While it may not be absolutely the very first pen many of us would think of, there really is no reason to be intimidated by it. Here is the page on Dani Trio's website that explains how to fill it.

The nib depends on your writing. If you have a very small writing, you should go for a fine or extra-fine; if you have a average size writing, a medium, and if you need a full page to write 2 sentences, go for a broad.

If really want to jump into the FP experience, not only for the "novelty" technical aspect, but also for a different writing and add flair to your writing, I think a stub would be great. A stub writes wider vertical lines and a narrower horizontal ones. It's instant penmanship improvement !

Denis.

If I were going to spend that much $$ on a first pen and planned to use it for everything, I would get a regular medium nib and cartridge/converter filler. Best to start conservative and branch out from there IMO. The reason I wouldn't go for fine is that a FP will open you up to the world of inks, and sometimes a fine nib just doesn't show enough ink!

that makes sense! Thanks for the advice.

I guess what you really want is a pen that IS easy to work with. You can't go on looks alone if you hate to use the pen!

I just know NADA about them. Im trying to soak up everything i can.. and I sure would like to show off some inks!

At the same time you get the Danitro from Winedoc, get a very inexpensive FP to practice with. Ink it, clean it, push hard on the nib, push soft on the nib, practice filling, practice cleaning up after it, etc. Put it in your pocket and take it out a couple of dozen times. Leave it on your desk or don't. Leave it out where folks can see it or hide it. Get in the habit of protecting an expensive pen.

The Danitro's are absolutely gorgeous, but you don't want to be experimenting with such a gorgeous and expensive pen.

Eyedroppers are pens that you fill with ink by putting eyedroppers in the ink bottle, sucking the ink up and squishing the ink into the pen. Don't overfill or you get a mess. Other filling systems are easier but eyedroppers are very "fulfilling." Eyedroppers have large capacities so if you like to fill and switch inks a lot it isn't a very good choice.

If you go with an eyedropper, buy yourself a Wality eyedropper at the same time and practice with that one. It is too easy to drop the pen on the nib as you are filling it if you don't pay attention and leave the cap off when you fill it.

As far as fine, medium, or broad nibs, it depends on your writing style. If you write big, any size nib will work as it is mostly a matter of taste. If you write small, a broad nib will be problematic as it will "fill in" the closed letters, i.e., d,p,a,o,etc. Medium is either the happy medium or the unhappy medium. Nevertheless, it is a reasonable place to start. Regular or stub would be good starters, steer clear of flex and italic at first.

Ink lasts longer in a fine nib but the overall cost per letter isn't terribly significant.

Most of all, enjoy the pen. I have an older far less expensive relative of the Danitrio that I enjoy so I imagine the finer Danitrio are even more enjoyable. I saw them, and Kevin the Winedoc, at the LA Pen Show and he is a first class gent with wonderful pens. You can safely rely on his good counsel.

All good wishes,

Andy

Mr.

lol sorry!

For your first FP, I'd go with a regular nib as opposed to the flexy ones. As a bonus, most of the Danitrios have screw-in nib units, so you can get another one that'll screw right in later.

As to the filling system, the eyedropper should be no problem.

Thanks again for even more advice!

Kevin is also advising me. Let me ask this.. if i desire to change nibs.. what are the repercussions?

Further, in cheap pens, can i find pens with different nibs for practice?
Any store to find these chaper pens in?

im so glad im not the only,,,,, everyone is telling me im crazy! all my freinds gimme the wide eye! I dont care what they think though

I like Andy's suggestions. You can find a Wality piston filler and eyedropper here: http://www.isellpens.com/ (no affilitiation, etc., etc.)
I don't know of any repurcusions regarding nib replacment (other than in the reduction you will see in your pocketbook). If you're interested in trying different nibs, you might also consider looking into a Pelikan at some point, which, as you will learn here, is very popular and has replaceable nibs available in a wide array of options via Richard Binder.

http://www.internetpens.net/catalog/item/1472440/1829247.htm

I was considering this pen, but it sold last night.

Winedoc has suggested a CC and is looking into a similar pen for me. We'll see what turns up!

hmm yeah eye dropper seems like a bit of work.

How bout these.. opinions?

http://www.internetpens.net/catalog/item/1404798/975812.htm

http://www.internetpens.net/catalog/item/1404798/861784.htm

Hi,

Those are c/c fillers. The art work on the pen is screened Maki-e and not 100% hand done which make the pen more affordable compare to the pens made by hand and take time. These pens comes with regular F, M, B, Stub and fexy nibs are not available for these as nibs are a bit smaller.

I'll post some pics here shortly.

Best,

Kevin

I happen to like the Flexy Mediums on the pens smaller than the Mikado size. They are easy to work with but if you dont have any experience with any fountain pens, I would go with a regular medium or regular broad. That should give you an extremely smooth writer and lots of ink without having to press down hard. In fact i would go with the regular mediums. It is a nib for all occasions!!!!

As for the Mikado and Larger, i prefer the Soft Mediums and Soft Broads!!! THose are really smooth writers!! Have you considered a Raw Ebonite Mikado or the Densho first before shelling out the big dough to see if this is what you like? The Densho is the same size as the Wakasa-nuri, only difference is that the raw is plain black and the price is much much less. I would consider that one first!!! They are rugged and durable, especially for a first time pen buyer. If you really love the pen, then you can get the Wakasa-nuri. You can use the Raw ebonite for a rugged user pen.

I am not trying to dissuade you from buying it, just trying to broaden you horizons. You can always use the raw ebonite as a knock around while the Wakasa-nuri can be an office pen or special occasion pen. Both pens have 18kt gold nibs, the price difference is the maki-e and urushi.

Best of luck and Kevin will take care of you!!! Winedoc is the man!!!

TNS

Hi,

I have post some pics here for your enjoyment.
http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=10881

If any of these interest you, I will have to check for availability for you. I put the photos in different post because they are just pictures.

Best,

Kevin

WOW!!!!!

Hi Plasma,

I'll second The Noble Savage's recommendation for a raw ebonite pen. My first Danitrio was a raw ebonite Densho size eyedropper. It hooked me on the Danitrio brand. Since then I've added some of the less expensive pens (scour the greenboard and marketplace -- they turn up) and haven't yet been disappointed with Danitrio or winedoc's customer service.

Someone else also suggested buying a cheap pen along with your expensive pen. I whole heartedly agree. I can't think of much worse than putting an expensive pen (its up to you what qualifies as expensive, for me it is any pen I would need to think about replacing due to cost) down and forgetting accidently leaving it somewhere. Before I started carrying my Danitrios I had some practice with a Lamy Al-Star, a couple of Esterbrooks and a Wality.

Good luck. I'm sure Kevin will take good care of you.

french

Thanks for the kind words everyone. Much appreciated.

As promised, here is the pic of different nibs. Please note, the flexy B should read flexy M. Don't know what I was thinking. That flexy M is slightly wider than typical flexy M because the nib has been through a few pen show and everyone wanted to see how "flexy" the nib can be, so has been through a bit of "abuse" Well you get the idea. The bottom one is the new flexy Stub...

Pardon my lousy hand writing... I am no expert with stub nibs...



Kev

mmmmmmmmm.....flexy medium....

can't wait for my Densho to come in.

Man. I love these. Are these on your site? What is the price category? I sooooo want another danitrio.

BTW, I just LOVE the stub nib.