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Rhodia Webnotebooks - UPDATE on Paper Webnotebooks sold in the US will be made with Clairefontaine paper

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Post icon  Posted 05 September 2008 - 07:55 PM

From Karen Doherty - Vice President, Marketing Exaclair, Inc

We imported a few from France to bring to the Chicago Pen Show last May. A number of people had also emailed us looking for them.

We decided not to import them, because they were not made with Clairefontaine paper, but paper from Japan or Singapore. It is very good paper, but not Clairefontaine paper. We did not want to confuse the brand in people's minds with several different kinds of paper for Rhodia products.

So instead we asked our parent company to make Rhodia Webnotebooks with Clairefontaine paper (like the rest of the Rhodia pads). The Clairefontaine management agreed.

The Rhodia Webnotebooks sold in the US will be made with Clairefontaine paper. I don't have an exact date, but I expect the first shipment to arrive in late fall.

The ePure notebooks will NOT be made with Clairefontaine paper, so we will not be importing them. We will, however, special order them for stores or individuals. However, there is a sizable minimum (at least one case pack of 5 or 10--I can't remember) and they'll take about three months to arrive from France by ship.

You can see the webnotebooks on http://bloc-rhodia.fr. "


Maybe THESE will be the Moleskine Killer..... biggrin.gif

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 08:08 PM

I look forward to trying one out. Thanks for the info. What's the difference between the webnotebook and the epure? Other than the paper and the back pocket?

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 11:14 PM

Oh, this looks marvelous! Now to figure out if it's Rhodia-Clairefontaine or Clairefontaine-Clairefontaine paper, though I'd bet the former rather than the latter. Still, it's darn close and considering the recent quality of Moleskines I've been hearing about, definitely close enough!

(I'm lucky that I have a couple of old Moleskines with good paper left, but I go through them pretty fast so this is great news.)

Any idea on who's going to retail these?

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Posted 06 September 2008 - 01:08 AM

This is excellent news - they may yet be the norebook we all covet.

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Posted 06 September 2008 - 01:21 AM

QUOTE (biffybeans @ Sep 5 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From Karen Doherty - Vice President, Marketing Exaclair, Inc

We imported a few from France to bring to the Chicago Pen Show last May. A number of people had also emailed us looking for them.

We decided not to import them, because they were not made with Clairefontaine paper, but paper from Japan or Singapore. It is very good paper, but not Clairefontaine paper. We did not want to confuse the brand in people's minds with several different kinds of paper for Rhodia products.

So instead we asked our parent company to make Rhodia Webnotebooks with Clairefontaine paper (like the rest of the Rhodia pads). The Clairefontaine management agreed.

The Rhodia Webnotebooks sold in the US will be made with Clairefontaine paper. I don't have an exact date, but I expect the first shipment to arrive in late fall.

The ePure notebooks will NOT be made with Clairefontaine paper, so we will not be importing them. We will, however, special order them for stores or individuals. However, there is a sizable minimum (at least one case pack of 5 or 10--I can't remember) and they'll take about three months to arrive from France by ship.

You can see the webnotebooks on http://bloc-rhodia.fr. "


Maybe THESE will be the Moleskine Killer..... biggrin.gif

Why should you want to kill Moleskine? It works quite well for many people.

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Posted 06 September 2008 - 03:00 AM

Because it's an overpriced product made in China?
Because pretty much every ink I've use it in besides Noodler's Bulletproof black bleeds & feathers?


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Posted 06 September 2008 - 07:51 PM

I was excited about the Rhodia Webnotebook, but I so strongly prefer 1) blank or 2) graph paper that I may not decide to purchase the Webnotebook until these other styles come out. :-( By the way, they are now available at the Daily Planner. (I have no connection to that company.)

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Posted 06 September 2008 - 08:19 PM

I only wish they would have a book mark like the Moleskine note books.
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Posted 07 September 2008 - 05:35 PM

Aaargh!!! How will we know the difference between which books contain which paper, especially buying them online?
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Posted 07 September 2008 - 05:41 PM

Thanks for this information. I wonder what we'll end up getting in Europe. It would be bizarre if we had to import 'European' notebooks from the US, just to get the good paper smile.gif

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 04:06 AM

Per Karen at Exaclair, Rhodia Webnotebooks available at the Daily Planner are NOT the US made models.

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 04:18 AM

I like Rhodia pads, which are similar in quality to Clairefontaine Triomphe pads, but not identical. The Rhodia pads are somewhat lighter in weight (80 gsm as compared to 90 gsm for Triomphe). Nonetheless, the Rhodia pads are high quality, smooth, and far superior to Moleskine in terms of their ability to accept a variety of inks without bleeding or feathering. I've always found it perplexing that I can't find any information regarding the weight of Moleskine paper.
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:50 AM

I liked using the ePure notebooks. It's a pity that they won't be made with Clairefontaine paper any more sad.gif
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:02 PM

QUOTE (biffybeans @ Sep 5 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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You can see the webnotebooks on http://bloc-rhodia.fr. "[/i]

Maybe THESE will be the Moleskine Killer..... biggrin.gif


Not for me. They won't be Moleskine killer UNLESS the paper is cream/off-white in colour. I don't like the white glaring paper of Clairefontaine paper for journal writing and personal/intimate kinds of writing. For everyday use, that's perfectly fine but not for diaries etc. If the Clairefontaine paper could be made in the same kind of colour as Moleskine paper, then you might have a killer on hand ;-)
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:05 PM

For me, Moleskine works quite well with Noodler's Bulletproof black, Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue, Visconti Sepia, Quink Black, Skrip Black. It could be your pen, biffybeans. I use F or finer nibs.

Indeed, the paper is not as good as Clairefontaine, but I wouldn't want to use that glaring white paper for journal writing.

QUOTE (biffybeans @ Sep 5 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because it's an overpriced product made in China?
Because pretty much every ink I've use it in besides Noodler's Bulletproof black bleeds & feathers?


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