[Fulcanelli]

I picked up a bottle of PR Copper Burst and notice that the color seems to be a bit two-tone, with the lighter copper color and some areas of darker brown. It's really quite a nice effect. I am using a Lamy Safari Vista XF nib.

Is this the pen/ink combo or the character of this ink? Are there other inks with this same quality?

[wimg]

Hi Fulcanelli,

This effect you discovered, is the shading we are talking about in inks. When an ink shows darker and lighter colours when writing, essentially when thinner and thicker or wetter and drier lines or parts of lines are laid down, it is called shading.

It is a loveley effect, IMO anyway, that, once you've discovered it, want to happen in all inks you use :D. This is one of the reasons I use many pens in my ink reviews, in order to try and show the shading characteristics, if that ink has any.

Many of the Noodler's inks show this characteristic to great effect, and it is one of the reasons why I like Ottoman Azure and Cayenne so much. Waterman Blue Black and South Sea Blue do this too, but to a lesser degree.

Especially with flex nibs and italic nibs this effect becomes very noticeable and pronounced, and it is one of the reasons why the same ink looks different from a pen and nib combination with different physical flow characteristics.

HTH, warm regards, Wim

[Fulcanelli]

Thanks for the useful information. You seem to be full of it...useful information. LOL. ;)

[Titivillus]

wimg, on May 19 2005, 07:32 PM, said:

Hi Fulcanelli,

This effect you discovered, is the shading we are talking about in inks. When an ink shows darker and lighter colours when writing, essentially when thinner and thicker or wetter and drier lines or parts of lines are laid down, it is called shading.

It is a loveley effect, IMO anyway, that, once you've discovered it, want to happen in all inks you use :D. This is one of the reasons I use many pens in my ink reviews, in order to try and show the shading characteristics, if that ink has any.

Many of the Noodler's inks show this characteristic to great effect, and it is one of the reasons why I like Ottoman Azure and Cayenne so much. Waterman Blue Black and South Sea Blue do this too, but to a lesser degree.

Especially with flex nibs and italic nibs this effect becomes very noticeable and pronounced, and it is one of the reasons why the same ink looks different from a pen and nib combination with different physical flow characteristics.

HTH, warm regards, Wim

And depending on the ink you can even get the effect where the color almost takes on a metallic edge. I have has Namaki blue do this when I've used a poster nib. Really neat to see the copper/ bronze flecks in the dryed ink. Of course this is just what I have experienced and strictly my opinion of what I saw. :o :o :o :lol: :lol: :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Bryan]

Copper Burst, a very nice color with lots of character. I've used it off and on for about two years. I love the shading effect with my italic nibs, very nice.

Wim turned me on to Noodler's Cayenne and Ottoman Azure, they both have very nice shading, if you like the Copper Burst, you'd better start thinking about these two colors as well!

Bryan

[smudgy]

Swisher's Apricot Orange, which looks a whole lot like Noodler's Cayenne, has great shading as well.

[Fulcanelli]

Bryan, on May 19 2005, 11:35 PM, said:

Wim turned me on to Noodler's Cayenne and Ottoman Azure, they both have very nice shading, if you like the Copper Burst, you'd better start thinking about these two colors as well!

I am...I am! I keep hearing about Noodler's inks, and a fair share of that somewhat negative, so of course I just MUST try it. I was hoping for a local source of the stuff, but nothing yet. Sigh. Now would be a good time to get some since a few online sources are blowing some colors out at reduced prices, to offset the shipping. I did inquire about two bottles of ink from a good online source and choked on the $6 shipping charges.