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What do you think is the worst pen Parker made ?

#1 User is offline   goodguy 

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 02:52 AM

What do you think is the worst pen Parker EVER made ?

Was is the T-1 ? I hope not I love this pen.

Maybe the Sonnet ? I hear so many bad things about its nibs.

The VP ? that had a very small success and produced 2 years only ?

Any others ?

Let me think what you think.

This post has been edited by goodguy: 02 February 2007 - 02:53 AM

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 02:54 AM

hmm red band filler... (but it was still a Parker 51!) i think 1-2 years in production.

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 03:10 AM

Gotta go with the Red Band for the worst Parker, but the Red Band only just barely noses out the T-1. The T-1 is dazzling to look at, really it is, but it is a very bad choice for a pen you actually want to write with. It is not a good writer. Its adjustable nib doesn't adjust very well, and even if you can get it adjusted right, the pen is likely to shed its iridium tipping if you speak harshly to it. When the iridium falls off, and this can happen even when the pen is merely being handled, the pen's value goes up in a puff of smoke. And so do its writing qualities. But it's not a three-time loser: you can admire its looks while you cuss yourself out for having wasted your money on it.



If you're really hot for a pen like this, look for a Pilot Murex or MYU, or a Parker Falcon 50.




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Posted 02 February 2007 - 03:43 AM

What is the "red band filler" ?
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 03:58 AM

QUOTE(goodguy @ Feb 1 2007, 10:43 PM)
What is the "red band filler" ?

It was an attempt at a spoon filler. The spoon filler has a blind cap; when you remove the blind cap, you see a little lever sticking up. When you push the lever sideways, the other end of it squeezes the sac. Think of it like a teaspoon with the pivot point near the bowl; the bowl is the part you push, and the handle is the pressure bar. On vintage spoon fillers, the visible lever usually looks vaguely like the bowl of a spoon, and this may (or may not) be the source of the name.

The Red Band was a mistake in several ways. Parker could have made the pen as easy to repair as a "51" but did not; instead they solvent-welded the collector and shell to the barrel; repair of anything other than the filler meant return to Parker and replacement of the entire pen, although Parker could of course scavenge the returned pen's nib. The filler was not durable in the initial version; it was made of plastic, and the stress of the pibvot pin's being pushed back and forth broke the mounting piece. Parker revised the design to use an aluminum mounting piece, but the whole concept of the pen was ill conceived and, mercifully, short lived.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 03:59 AM

Hey...I like my Sonnets. Classic look, solid construction, and nice writing performance...well, it was after Richard adjusted it for me! biggrin.gif

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(Edited for sloppy grammar...)

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 05:17 AM

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Hey...I like my Sonnets. Classic look, solid construction, and nice writing performance...well, it was after Richard adjusted it for me, anyways.


Hey, now, if all new Parker Sonnets came with an RB nib adjustment included at the current retail price, well, who's to complain!!! lticaptd.gif
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 09:44 AM

Ah, the poor red band.

So maligned. So underappreciated.

:bunny1: This one is nice :bunny1:



and these have their charm



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Posted 03 February 2007 - 10:13 AM

Hey! Sonnets rock! In my opinion, there's no other modern Parker pen that writes as well as it, while not being a stiff nail.*


Out of the moderns, I dislike the Parker Reflex. The plastic is weak, the pen looks too beefy, the caps are known to crack, and the rubber grip gets shredded after time unsure.gif (The nibs just a Vector nib, so nothing terrific there either). If I wanted a cheap, modern Parker, I'd rather get the Vector, Frontier, or even the Jotter FP.


*-That's if you somehow, miraculously get yourself one that has a flawless nib on your first purchase :doh:

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 02:49 PM

QUOTE(TMann @ Feb 2 2007, 03:59 AM)
Hey...I like my Sonnets. Classic look, solid construction, and nice writing performance

Hey - me too! Worst pen Parker made? Not by a very long shot. True, a few have nib issues, but they respond well enough to the old brown bag trick (or brown recycled wrapping paper in my case). It leads me to suppose that it's just the 'finishing' on some of these nibs that's the issue, which while slightly annoying, is not really that big a deal.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 03:09 PM

The Reflex, which is the first ever Parker pen that really screams 'cheap' to me. It's not the cheapest pen they've made, but it's the cheapest-seeming.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:13 PM

I was very lucky in my hunt for a T1 - I read what Richard et al had to say about it and decided against !

Love the look of it, so I picked up a few Falcons (still need the black) and a MYU701.

The T1 IMHO (the 'H' being Humble in this case smile.gif ) is too expensive for something that, if dropped, would be a nightmare ohmy.gif and ALL my pens have to run that risk - I won't stand for prima donnas that want to live in glass cases biggrin.gif

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Edit:
Actually the Aztec. I've wanted one since I first saw a picture and can't afford one. Parker should have made millions of them so they'd be all over eBay biggrin.gif

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:26 PM

I love the Sonnet!!!

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Post icon  Posted 04 February 2007 - 03:22 AM

Did I get the one T1 that was ever produced that writes well? It sits nicely in my hand and writes smoothly.

I will admit that once I heard about the eagerness of the iridium to part company with the rest of the nib, I put mine up. But, as to some extent I'm buying pens for my (as yet) non-existent grandchildren, not so much as an investment but as a link to a rapidly vanishing non-digital past, I figure that's their problem.
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Posted 14 February 2007 - 12:30 AM

I don't know about older Parkers, but fountain pen of Reflex -series really fscking sucks: Its cap ”breathes” so much that nib becomes dry and then I’ll experience starting problems. If I write at least something with it almost every day, it is okay.
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