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The ideal Sepia

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 04:37 PM

I'm looking for the ideal sepia. I know, I know, I might as well be looking for a unicorn. But, as I have a habit of looking for things that don't exist, why should this be any different. Anyway, most sepias tend to be too brown or redish for me. I'm looking for something with a more Grey/blackish or black-blue tinge to it. Of course the vast color variances seen on computer monitors doesn't help my quest. Thus far Iseem to be leaning toward Rohrer & Klinger Sepia, though Herbin Cacao du Brasile is nice too (if only a bit light). Hakase Sepia maybe? If it helps to understand my line of thinking, other similar colors that I've been been taken with are Noodler's Nightshade, Zhivago and El Lawrence (though the last online sample I saw of that looked downright green).

Any thoughts?

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 05:28 PM

Stipula's Sepia is good, too. Sort of like Visconti's, maybe a tad light redder. I think I like Herbin's Lie de Thé the best, which is somewhat darker and browner.

Have to try them out yourself.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 06:46 PM

If you do a search, or look down a page (maybe 2) you'll find a thread where I asked a very similar question. IIRC there were a few posts that mentioned 'grey' sepias.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 07:27 PM

Yes, I saw your thread, very helpful but I had hoped to get a little further in the greyish sepia direction.

It seems that the R & K Sepia is still at the top of my list (followed by the Herbin Cacao) but what is this business about it being dry? I hope to put it in a Century I with a fine nib.

The Iroshizuku Sepia has caught my eye as well (http://www.ciar-rois...oshizuku-04.jpg)

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 07:52 PM

Anybody know how Noodler's Manjiro Nakahama Whaleman's Sepia stacks up with the aforementioned inks? I also keep going back to the El Lawrence.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 08:52 PM

View PostBiber, on 03 November 2009 - 07:27 PM, said:

It seems that the R & K Sepia is still at the top of my list (followed by the Herbin Cacao) but what is this business about it being dry?


I haven't found the R&K to be dry. And I'd say that both of the (wonderful) colours you mention here have a greyish tint.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 08:52 PM

View PostBiber, on 03 November 2009 - 07:52 PM, said:

Anybody know how Noodler's Manjiro Nakahama Whaleman's Sepia stacks up with the aforementioned inks? I also keep going back to the El Lawrence.

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The colour is quite interesting -- it reminds me a bit of Herbin Terre de Feu -- but I found it impossibly dry.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 11:42 PM

Okay, you asked for it (just kiddin').

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Here are the 6 Sepias I have.
First line is 100.0 µl on a swab; second line is as stated there (same pen).

I didn't measure drying times exactly, but I'd say that the slowest drying ink was R&K followed by Stipula and Visconti.

To be honest, I find all colours seen here over-exaggerated. Spend more time looking at the dip pen lines than at the swabs. Our eyes aren't the same, neither is our scanner nor our monitor, but I hope there is still some comparison.

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:27 AM

Keep your eyes open for Parker Penman Mocha (it still turns up from time to time). Current production niks that you might want to look into are Caran d'Ache Grand Canyon or Delta Brown. These are all grey'ish browns, without all the red components that most browns have (with Mocha being the darkest and Delta the lightest).


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Posted 18 November 2009 - 06:57 AM

There's another new FPH exclusive Noodler's Old Dutch Sepia in drop down menu.

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